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yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:06:00 - [1]
 

First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.

Juan Sezole
The Colonial Forces
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:07:00 - [2]
 

CCP ALT

/ignored

Maximillian Dragonard
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:08:00 - [3]
 

The reality is that Zulu's blog in no way addressed any concerns voiced by the community. This, when combined with the internal newsletter, guaranteed my 3 accounts being canceled, as it did for many other people.

The cash cow is losing teats...

ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:09:00 - [4]
 

GO BACK TO YOUR DOLL HOUSE QUEER!!!

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yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:09:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Juan Sezole
CCP ALT

/ignored


Not really but cool story bro.

Money for pants
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:09:00 - [6]
 

You look like you could use some $1000 pants...

Hana Steelethorne
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:09:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard
The reality is that Zulu's blog in no way addressed any concerns voiced by the community. This, when combined with the internal newsletter, guaranteed my 3 accounts being canceled, as it did for many other people.

The cash cow is losing teats...


Seconded.

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:10:00 - [8]
 

Current System:

If you buy uber elite modules and ships in game, even if you use Isk from PLEX sales, at some point, a PLAYER had to grind out that Isk you are spending, and PLAYER had to hunt down and kill that officer for that drop.

AUR system:

Stuff appears out of thin air in exchange for RL cash, no PLAYER EFFORT involved ANYWHERE.

VANITY ITEMS for RL money (in the form of Aur), No Problem.

Uber modules, ships, etc for RL money WITHOUT PLAYER GRINDING FOR EVERY ISK OF THAT MONEY, BIG PROBLEM.


Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:10:00 - [9]
 

The INFINITE RAGE MACHINE brakes for no one?

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:11:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Money for pants
You look like you could use some $1000 pants...


Are they crotchless? If so I'm buying.

Peter XZ
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:11:00 - [11]
 

OP is right, whiners why u still here after 5 days of Incarna, too chicken to unsub??

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:11:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


Yes. Because silence conveys anger bestest, amirite?

Eleena Wolf
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


forget it, they have already decided how to approach this. sad but was inevitable. just hoping it means less lag. standby for alt accusation in 3, 2, 1..

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 - [14]
 

the time for calming ****s has passed.

HostageTaker
Gallente
Band of Freelancers
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:13:00 - [15]
 

no you

Madcapnl
The Rising Stars
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:13:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


If you dont listen to people, if you lie to them and treat them like they are idiots, they will rage...yes. Do you blame them? And booohooo for CCP employees getting flamed. I feel for them, but they are the representives of CCP so all the crap aimed at CCP will hit them first, HTFU or get another job. What else would you want to do, find CCP's CEO home or shareholders (or whoever is in charge there) and camp on their doorstep and shout "NO MT CCP"?Laughing

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:14:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


Yes. Because silence conveys anger bestest, amirite?


No, but crying like a baby isn't either.

Randal Eirikr
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:14:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Peter XZ
OP is right, whiners why u still here after 5 days of Incarna, too chicken to unsub??


Protip genius, we can still post while unsubbed.

Gibsie
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:14:00 - [19]
 

Quote:
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.


DROP ... XANAX ... NOW !
Rolling Eyes

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:15:00 - [20]
 

Posting in yet another CCP alt thread ... Wink

j/k .. it's a big player organized event, could you imagine anything more sandboxish than this?
Just be patient, the storm will blow over as CCP doesn't put dangerous stuff in the AUR store. And it's weekend. By the time Incarna 1.1 is released it's all calmed down again.

Madcapnl
The Rising Stars
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:16:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Peter XZ
OP is right, whiners why u still here after 5 days of Incarna, too chicken to unsub??


Pro-tip: accounts need to run out before they are unsubbed.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:17:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


Yes. Because silence conveys anger bestest, amirite?


No, but crying like a baby isn't either.


Tell ya what. How bout you log out til this is all over? Then you won't have to worry about crying on the forums anymore, mmk?

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:18:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: yfz3r0
Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


Yes. Because silence conveys anger bestest, amirite?


No, but crying like a baby isn't either.


Tell ya what. How bout you log out til this is all over? Then you won't have to worry about crying on the forums anymore, mmk?


Let's do it together! <3

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:20:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 25/06/2011 21:21:29

I don't like PLEX, but at least with PLEX, every single isk had be earned by a player IN GAME. All of it.

And if you sell PLEX for an officer module, ALL those officer modules were from in game drops, where a PLAYER killed an officer IN GAME. All of them.

While I do disapprove of PLEX, because it has a solid link to PLAYER effort, there is something of a check on it. It is not as bad as it could be. My 'disapproval' is mild BECAUSE of that link.

AUR cuts that link.

With AUR, you buy PLEX, convert them to AUR, and then buy super modules and ships, WITHOUT any link to IN GAME effort ANYWHERE. Not only does the AUR spender not grind, which bad, NO ONE grinds, which is FAR FAR FAR worse.



yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:21:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 25/06/2011 21:20:19
I don't like PLEX, but at least with PLEX, every single isk had be earned by a player IN GAME. All of it.

And if you sell PLEX for an officer module, ALL those officer modules were from in game drops, where a PLAYER killed an officer IN GAME. All of them.

While I do disapprove of PLEX, because it has a solid link to PLAYER effort, there is something of a check on it. It is not as bad as it could be. My 'disapproval' is mild BECAUSE of that link.

AUR cuts that link.

With AUR, you buy PLEX, convert them to AUR, and then buy super modules and ships, WITHOUT any link to IN GAME effort ANYWHERE. Not only does the AUR spender not grind, which bad, NO ONE grings, which is FAR FAR FAR worse.





I fail to see anywhere that CCP stated you could buy anything besides vanity clothing items with AUR. Could you link me to something that shows CCP saying you can?

General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:21:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
First off,

CHILL THE **** OUT MOTHER*******! OMG SHUT THE **** UP AT ONCE YOU STOOPID CRYING CRYPONIES!!!!111 EYE NO WUT IM TALKIN ABOUT!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! SELFIMPORTANCE!!!



-fixed-

I also believe this has the same effect as what you were trying to accomplish by yelling at angry people.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:22:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
Let's do it together! <3


Shocked That's... the sweetest thing anyone's said to me since Mittani told me I had lovely chocolate skin. <3<3<3

yfz3r0
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:24:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: General Xenophon
Originally by: yfz3r0
First off,

CHILL THE **** OUT MOTHER*******! OMG SHUT THE **** UP AT ONCE YOU STOOPID CRYING CRYPONIES!!!!111 EYE NO WUT IM TALKIN ABOUT!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! SELFIMPORTANCE!!!



-fixed-

I also believe this has the same effect as what you were trying to accomplish by yelling at angry people.


Thanks man, I knew my original post was lacking somehow...

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:24:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 25/06/2011 21:20:19
I don't like PLEX, but at least with PLEX, every single isk had be earned by a player IN GAME. All of it.

And if you sell PLEX for an officer module, ALL those officer modules were from in game drops, where a PLAYER killed an officer IN GAME. All of them.

While I do disapprove of PLEX, because it has a solid link to PLAYER effort, there is something of a check on it. It is not as bad as it could be. My 'disapproval' is mild BECAUSE of that link.

AUR cuts that link.

With AUR, you buy PLEX, convert them to AUR, and then buy super modules and ships, WITHOUT any link to IN GAME effort ANYWHERE. Not only does the AUR spender not grind, which bad, NO ONE grings, which is FAR FAR FAR worse.





I fail to see anywhere that CCP stated you could buy anything besides vanity clothing items with AUR. Could you link me to something that shows CCP saying you can?


Latest issue of the CCP Company Newsletter "Fearless". They were discussing the subject of NON-VANITY items, and have been dodging the issue for the last couple of days (Heck, it took me over a day to notice. for over a day, I was defending CCP)

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.06.25 21:25:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: yfz3r0
First off, you're acting like a bunch of animals... not the awesome community that I have grown to love over the past 7 years of playing this game. Grow up please because your 5 year old tantrums aren't helping anyone.

Secondly, regarding CCP Soundwave. The dude wrote an article in an internal newsletter. It was his OPINION. not policy, not official CCP word but simply his opinion. Are you guys REALLY blaming this entire fiasco on him? The dude did nothing wrong and if you guys would relax with the ragefest for a second and think clearly you might realize this too.

tl;dr Chill.


Some of us are, but you know what we are being ignored, and when we aren't being ignored we are being talked down to like simple children. Behind our backs we are treated like nothing more than drug addicts that need thier fix, it doesn't matter what we say or do we're hooked and so we can be abused and we'll still come back for more paying whatever CCP asks.

You want a nice adult conversation? So would I, CCP won't give it to us, they give us silence and lame corporate spin control with hollow apologies from the worker bees. Sorry the worker bees might actually feel bad about all this and I feel bad for them being pushed in front of the mob but that is their role in all this. Are we supposed to forget our grievances because the person shoved in front of us isn't directly responsible for the situation?

As for Soundwave I don't care about him, he isn't the target of my anger, he may have awesome feelings towards MT and other pay to play/win options for EVE which make him suck but not deserving of the blame for killing EVE. That blame will go to those in charge who listen to someone's ideas on killing EVE and 'say good job hop to it'. I don't buy the claim that what he wrote was purely him playing devils advocate to an extreme position. Sorry the opposing side wasn't an extreme POV against MT/pay to win, nor was the rest of the document which promoted plans/models for more MT in EVE, DUST, WOD and had a special section devoted to talking about how MT shouldn't be mistaken as an "Incarna" thing but that they would spread throughout EVE, everywhere options for MT.

TLDR: CCP brought this on themselves by ignoring players and treating certain players like crap.


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