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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:38:00 - [1]
 

CCP Fallout is the person who takes notes from the community and brings them to the devs right?

If you will, please take this note. By now we all realise that CCP does not knows if it will pursue a sale of non-vanity itens on the NeX, and so far all of CCP's atempts to calm people down have been a failure. We will calm down eventually? Yes. We will forget? No, we won't.

However, there is at least one compromise that you guys can do, and have no reason not to. Something that the ENTIRE community said that they want, and this would make things easier for everyone.


Bring Ship-Hangar™ mode back as an option. I don't want to keep staring at a wallpaper, i want to look at my active ship, and be able to open my cargo without having to take 65535 clicks.

So either make Ship-Hangar™ the standard again, with a "disembark" button for us to enter Captain's Quarters, or give us a toggle on the option menu to use Ship-Hangar™ instead of Captain's Quarters.


So to sum it up. I want Captain's Quarters. I think its cool.. I dig the thing.. But i don't want to be forced into it.


Can the community get behind me on this one? You have said time and again that this is something you want. Besides, CCP Fallout has said that this is he job, so please take this to people responsible for the change.

CCP, you can take one step in the right direction with overall approval by everyone by saying that, yes, you will make this happen.


Make this happen.

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:40:00 - [2]
 

It's been said many times before, and yes, I totally agree. CQ is cool, ship spinning is cool. Lets meet it halfway.

Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:41:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Renan Ruivo


Make this happen.



I cant take you seriously, as you couldn't even find a box to stand on as your picture was taken.

Cadela Fria
Amarr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:42:00 - [4]
 

I agree with the OP

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:54:00 - [5]
 

The disembark button would really be the best solution in my opinion. Remove the "re-customization" button and replace with "disembark". If someone wants to re-customize, then disembark and walk to your mirror/closet.

At the moment, there is no big reason for anyone to disembark, after all CQ is just an empty shell. But still, people will use it because they think its cool. Further down the line, when WIS gets implemented, then there will be the reason to disembark.

Joccob
Posted - 2011.06.25 19:59:00 - [6]
 

Here here!

Caelestis Starcaller
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:02:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Caelestis Starcaller on 25/06/2011 20:04:28
Im not sure its that easy to do as what your asking for is too load 2 different environments and hide one when you dock up.

This will only substantially increase the loading time in general and well have more people complaining. This is probably also the reason why the original was taken out and replaced by a door (locked view inside current CQ without rendering extra parts)

edit: indeed finally something constructive so +1 for that :)

Haruki Tekitsu
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:03:00 - [8]
 

A constructive post at last.
Totally agree +1

Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:06:00 - [9]
 

I've made this argument even before the patch was deployed... Wrote it as a question directly to CCP and it had a lot of responses, but I haven't had a single reply from a Dev.

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:09:00 - [10]
 

It's not going to happen until someone takes Hilmar's blow away.




Kahza Kado
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:15:00 - [11]
 

OP is right.. Just roll back the patch for now and heck you could even keep the Nex store active for now to try and sucker.. err.. sell some monocles and cloths until that completely separate issue is resolved.

Seriously though, I know several people irl that cannot even log into the game since patch because their system can't handle the increased demands. They had no problems what so ever before Incarna.

Lester Knight Chaykin
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:16:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Lester Knight Chaykin on 25/06/2011 20:17:10
edit: spelling

100% agreed with OP

There's no reason to remove the good old ship hangar.
Still give the CQ as default but leave the hangar as an option for the people who can't / don't want to run the CQ

The only reason not to do it is to screw people up: not everyone is using CQ, watching a wallpaper is stupid; if you don't care you are stupid becouse those people are not using CQ anyway, so what's the problem?!

Sometimes you loose yourselves in a glass of water ffs!

Chas Davia
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:17:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Chas Davia on 25/06/2011 20:19:31
Interestingly, if you remember fanfest 2008 with the ambulation demo, there was a disembark button. I wonder who made the descision to remove it?

Found some shakey cam footage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeanIPs0yws

Have to wonder what they have been doing for 3 years...

Chomondeley
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:17:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade


I cant take you seriously, as you couldn't even find a box to stand on as your picture was taken.

Swren1
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:18:00 - [15]
 

+1 BRING BACK THE OLD STATION VIEW

Danatious
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:19:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Renan Ruivo
The disembark button would really be the best solution in my opinion. Remove the "re-customization" button and replace with "disembark". If someone wants to re-customize, then disembark and walk to your mirror/closet.

At the moment, there is no big reason for anyone to disembark, after all CQ is just an empty shell. But still, people will use it because they think its cool. Further down the line, when WIS gets implemented, then there will be the reason to disembark.


^^ please make this happen CCP, I love the old view, and I like the new CQ.

If we could have both LOTS of players will be somewhat happier about things.

There is one thing with actions, you can never find out the actual result without testing the action first, I feel you did things a little backwards or too abruptly.

Callous Jade
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:19:00 - [17]
 

OP speaks the truth. This would go a long ways...

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.25 20:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Caelestis Starcaller
Edited by: Caelestis Starcaller on 25/06/2011 20:04:28
Im not sure its that easy to do as what your asking for is too load 2 different environments and hide one when you dock up.

This will only substantially increase the loading time in general and well have more people complaining. This is probably also the reason why the original was taken out and replaced by a door (locked view inside current CQ without rendering extra parts)

edit: indeed finally something constructive so +1 for that :)


Not exactly. Just notice how you need to undock and re-dock whenever you check/uncheck "Load Station Environment". This happens because if you have it unchecked when you dock, the client loads nothing. If it loaded both the Captain's Quarters and the wallpaper when you dock, you wouldn't need to redock to see CQ.

So the way it could work is that when you click on "Disembark", the client would unload the station hangar and load the captain's quarters.

This, basically, already happened when you clicked "Undock". The client would unload the Ship Hangar and load the grid outside the station. But now, you would also have a "Disembark" button that would work the same way, the difference being that instead of loading the outside local grid after unloading the ship hangar, it would load the captain's quarters.

Sem Nan
Posted - 2011.06.26 00:11:00 - [19]
 

+1

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:13:00 - [20]
 

Friendly bump?

We will get what we want, at least THIS time?

Annihilatus
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:17:00 - [21]
 

No comprimeses are needed microtransactions are a great idea, adn will expand ccp as a business a lot more than plex ever could

sicne eve is all business and you guys dont understand that ccp is makign an awesome business move atm, and you guys are jsut a bunch of butthurt whiners because you got swindled ( thats business, get used to it newbs ) im gunna have to say, l2eve already, or just gtfo 3 days ago liek you people who unsubbed said you would

Dek Kato
Amarr
Delusions of Mediocrity
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:19:00 - [22]
 

Yes! This is an important aspect to the loss of touch that we're seeing from CCP that's been overshadowed by monoclegate.

khai88
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:20:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: khai88 on 26/06/2011 06:20:25
Sorry can't do it, and i will say the flame is so high is because of MT no CQ, i don't even care CQ is on or not, i will compromise to have everything in game include this CQ and all other bug come with this expension to be able NOT to have MT in game.

Van Doren
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:21:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Haraldhardrade

I cant take you seriously, as you couldn't even find a box to stand on as your picture was taken.


Made my day. I can go to sleep with a smile.

DingoEating Baby
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:23:00 - [25]
 

Maybe you missed it in the pdf, but "ship spinning" aka removal of CQ will be available in the near future for roughly 24,000 AUR.

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:24:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 26/06/2011 06:25:05
Originally by: khai88
Edited by: khai88 on 26/06/2011 06:20:25
Sorry can't do it, and i will say the flame is so high is because of MT no CQ, i don't even care CQ is on or not, i will compromise to have everything in game include this CQ and all other bug come with this expension to be able NOT to have MT in game.


Dock, then disembark. Problem fixed for you?

Sorry if i sound patronizing, but you are not the majority. Just go to EVE's rookie help chat and say "+1 those who cannot run CQ without smelling hardware bacon"

You like the CQ and dislike the Ship Hanger. Others like Ship Hanger and dislie CQ. I like both. That is what the thread is about, a compromise.

Originally by: Van Doren
Originally by: Haraldhardrade

I cant take you seriously, as you couldn't even find a box to stand on as your picture was taken.


Made my day. I can go to sleep with a smile.


They see me spyin'. They hatin'.

Kiran
Minmatar
Knights of Azrael
Anti-Social Outcast
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Annihilatus
No comprimeses are needed microtransactions are a great idea, adn will expand ccp as a business a lot more than plex ever could

sicne eve is all business and you guys dont understand that ccp is makign an awesome business move atm, and you guys are jsut a bunch of butthurt whiners because you got swindled ( thats business, get used to it newbs ) im gunna have to say, l2eve already, or just gtfo 3 days ago liek you people who unsubbed said you would


I bet you bought the monocle didn't you ? Or an over priced t-shirt.

But yeh I can see the OP's point here, and agree with him. If I want to just unload my cargo hold and then re-enter space I now got to wait 5 minuets for the bloody captains quarters to load up then find my ship icon to unload it all. A few second job now turns into 10 minuets.

At present the CQ are pointless, you cant leave cant take a shower, cant lie on the bed. The TV channels are fixed and who the hell left all the drink cans lying about the place?
And whay is it I am a Minmatar in a Caldari station yet my quarters look the same as the ones in another station?

khai88
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:33:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: khai88 on 26/06/2011 06:33:58
this is say a compromise, not demanding thing, all you idea is DEMAND ship hanger come back, what i say i will compromise eveything so MT is not in game (Compromise mean both party lose something just in case you don't know)

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:35:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Doc Fury
It's not going to happen until someone takes Hilmar's blow away.





Sem Nan
Posted - 2011.06.26 06:39:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: khai88
Edited by: khai88 on 26/06/2011 06:33:58
this is say a compromise, not demanding thing, all you idea is DEMAND ship hanger come back, what i say i will compromise eveything so MT is not in game (Compromise mean both party lose something just in case you don't know)


Compromise means both parties agree to not get something they both want, in order to get something else that they also both want.

You want to sell a monocle for 80 dollars, i want to buy it for 8 dollars. A compromise we be both of us agreeing on 40 dollars.


Besides, which one is more likely to happen? CCP bringing back Ship Hangar, which makes obvious sense and doesn't makes them lose any money, or CCP scrapping MT?


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