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Sheperd Paragon
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:07:00 - [31]
 

You are a stupid i guess

Oh, am i stupid nothing known what was going on is the right thing :(

and if you know it, you are just a selfish damn player

suck ccp and get terrible to all users!

Harcun Fellon
Gallente
Ichee Industries
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Tali Ambraelle
Originally by: Bloodpetal
Excellent, just wanted to make sure that things are becoming uncomfortable for you.




Reported. Go crawl back under a mission 3 rock you street urchin. I can't wait to see you banned.


Except for many of us, this is the point. We want bans as we have months/years of gametime remaining and no real way to _prove_ "what our players do and less of what they say."

Getting perma-banned with 1+ year remaining gametime is a pretty drastic effort, no? So efforts to **** the game up and grind it to a halt are the only way to meta game the game itself and either force a change or at least give the devs some sober second thought before doing crap like this again. To stop this virus (pay-to-win) from extending to other games who would view player inaction as an indicator of success for the model in general.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:09:00 - [33]
 

Emergent game play.

But the fighting should be fighting.. not jetisoning cans etc.

The game is about fighting... and there is no "law" about Jita.

Breaking up the hegemony a bit and getting industrialists to respond and make changes that would be necessary under such a war really helps the persistent world history of the place.

New trade hubs will develope. Production may become more dispersed into seperate economies divided by terrorist camps on trade routes like in Niraja etc.

I think its really kinda a cool idea.. 0.0 has gotta a bid staid with the supercarier mess.

Zeb DaMadMiner
Interstellar Research Excavation Armada
Tri Sol Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:10:00 - [34]
 

Sigh* has anybody even thought about this?

1. We don't care about the items or the prices.
It's a mixture of the perma banning under false accusations, and the complete lack of communication and ignorance even to the CSM's that basically keep the game going.
2. It's not just a few thousand people complaining, its in the 10's of thousands.
3. The effects of even that are small compared to what it will be down the line unless they straighten things out.
4. whats the point investing hundreds of $'s in a game thats not going to last 6 months?

-5 subs

Captain Dylan Hunt
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:12:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kith'rahl Miromme
great. Now I have to unbiomass just to see whats going on in jita.

Not necessarily :)

Jita Protest Cam

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:13:00 - [36]
 

Tali Ambraelle: Whiteknighting CCP in the vain hope of being given a monocle.

Darteis Elosia
Gallente
PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G.
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:13:00 - [37]
 

Protectors of EVE. You are awesome and I fully support you. Everyone who can should use rockets and missiles because they lag the server moar! YARRRR!!

Hunter Verdeen
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:16:00 - [38]
 

Many of us who would like to play the game (even though we hate the dress up Sims in Space aspect) agree with the OP. Protesting is one thing trying to crash the node or even server is wrong. I pay my $15 a month just like everyone else does (even if you plex someone bought it for you to buy later in game to use). Do I deserve not to be able to play and enjoy all aspects of the game because other players are not playing the game but rather trying to shut parts of not all of the game down? I say no and I go further and claim anyone who is protesting and trying to shut down the node or server are not any better than the LOLZSEC group and their DDOS attacks on the game. Basically you are a terrorist and should at the very least face a perma ban from this game and if I were CCP would press charges.

Sakura Ren Fenikkusu
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:17:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Ender sup
The people in jita aren't the ones that are lying about ongoing game development, ditching content just because they don't care to get it finished or are the ones that remove content just because they want everyone to use their new virtual box that has a mirror in it so you can see your prized monocle.


Where have CCP lied to us?

They haven't added Non-Vanity to the NeXus, nor do I think they plan to. If you actually read the Fearless internal newletter, they are talking about Micro-Transactions in general, while also referencing Incarna. The non-vanity items mentioned could very well be for DUST 514, which they have stated will have non-vanity items for cash.

What content have they ditched?

Only one I can think of that might remotely apply is Faction Warfare, which they are actively discussing possible fixes with the community.

What content have they removed to implement Incarna?

Your precious ship-spinning minigame? Good News you can still do that through the ship preview windows, and you can actually spin ship you'll never own.

Incarna 1.0, is only the first iteration that added the technology behind Captain's Quarters and Walking in Stations. If CCP keeps their promist, there is much more to come.

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:17:00 - [40]
 

If CCP are dedicated to the idea of MT, and most of all, pay-to-win MT, then I do want them to go down. I want Eve to crash and burn. I want their fish factory HQ to be a ghost town. I want DUST to flop and World of Darkness to be stillborn.

They've lied to us, repeatedly, and then when we find out, their response is "screw you". They're after money, and they don't give a rat's rear end how we feel about it, but they are emphatic on the point that we should be polite to them, even after they've defrauded us, not in a legal sense but most definitely in others.

Why should we want them to be successful after that? If they reverse course, maybe then. But they won't. They are dedicated to ripping the golden goose to pieces and they want us to thank them as they do it, because it's...*awesome*.

No. Screw you, CCP. Screw your company. To hell with your "dream".

Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:18:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 25/06/2011 07:18:42
How will I get PLEX for my monocle if they're clogging the system? Ban the rapscallions I say!

Darveses
Fantastulousification Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:19:00 - [42]
 

OP probably sat on the Perimeter gate for an hour, unable to get in yesterday.

Victor Sigmund Balducci
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:19:00 - [43]
 

Hell, they got a good cause, and I like anarchy! Yay for space Protesters!

Raynohr
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:22:00 - [44]
 

doubt it would matter to ccp if they are banned as moust likely 90% of them dont pay rl cash for the sub, but gets it whit ingame isk.

Ender sup
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:24:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Ender sup on 25/06/2011 07:25:46
Originally by: Hunter Verdeen
Many of us who would like to play the game (even though we hate the dress up Sims in Space aspect) agree with the OP. Protesting is one thing trying to crash the node or even server is wrong. I pay my $15 a month just like everyone else does (even if you plex someone bought it for you to buy later in game to use). Do I deserve not to be able to play and enjoy all aspects of the game because other players are not playing the game but rather trying to shut parts of not all of the game down? I say no and I go further and claim anyone who is protesting and trying to shut down the node or server are not any better than the LOLZSEC group and their DDOS attacks on the game. Basically you are a terrorist and should at the very least face a perma ban from this game and if I were CCP would press charges.


Do I not deserve the same rights to a service? Am I to blame for ccp not allowing more than a certain number or players inside a system? Could you please call the UN for a no fly zone over jita?

Hunter Verdeen
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:43:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Ender sup
Edited by: Ender sup on 25/06/2011 07:25:46
Originally by: Hunter Verdeen
Many of us who would like to play the game (even though we hate the dress up Sims in Space aspect) agree with the OP. Protesting is one thing trying to crash the node or even server is wrong. I pay my $15 a month just like everyone else does (even if you plex someone bought it for you to buy later in game to use). Do I deserve not to be able to play and enjoy all aspects of the game because other players are not playing the game but rather trying to shut parts of not all of the game down? I say no and I go further and claim anyone who is protesting and trying to shut down the node or server are not any better than the LOLZSEC group and their DDOS attacks on the game. Basically you are a terrorist and should at the very least face a perma ban from this game and if I were CCP would press charges.


Do I not deserve the same rights to a service? Am I to blame for ccp not allowing more than a certain number or players inside a system? Could you please call the UN for a no fly zone over jita?


Yes anyone playing the game deserves the right to play wherever and however they choose. That said calling for crashing the node as was done earlier today and is still being said from time to time is not gameplay but an attempt to disrupt gameplay. As such it is agianst the TOS everyone agreed to when they signed up for an account. If you want to sit in Jita and shoot at the monument in protest by all means do it but when you call for others to do the same so you can crash the node or server it goes beyond protest and becomes an attemot to disrupt gameplay. BTW this is spoken by someone who avoids Jita like the plague on a good day. I just feel the battle cry of crash the node and attempting to do so is wrong.

unreasonable reason
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:52:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu
CCP has 375k+ active subscribers, and only 1-3k are protesting and all claim to be quitting Eve anyway.

Let CCP put them out of their misery, and make sure that they can't come back.


they've also filled up amarr and piling on dodixie and rens last i checked. so about 3k accounts protesting at one time that means 10 times that number are not yet online or has logged off, assuming that those protesting takes 2 hours each. then also from what I'm seeing in many chats, about 3-4 times that number supports them strongly but didn't go to the trade hubs protests and a quarter would says that they'll unsubscribe as well if the MT affects actual game play.

so total who protests is about 20-30k, total strongly supporting the argument is 90k+ and total who would quit is (very rough estimate) 30-50k.

since 3k player taking time out to mount this protest is 10% of the 30-35k average online accounts at any one time. i'd say my numbers are roughly accurate.

Conrad Lionhart
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:58:00 - [48]
 

You want to discuss this with CCP, discuss them like mature adults. Trying to crash Jita and ruin other players experiences is very childish and should be against the terms of use or something.

Or you just unsub and go away. Frankly if the "core" playerbase are this unruly and disruptive, the game will be better off without you all.

Savion Chastis
Posted - 2011.06.25 07:58:00 - [49]
 

sandbox

Rumplefink
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:07:00 - [50]
 

RabbLE RABble RABBLE!

SexyMama
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:12:00 - [51]
 

Its a sandbox game you know?

We just want to poop in the sandbox.

It won't matter soon because you will be able to buy more sand anytime you want.

Eos Astraios
Posted - 2011.06.25 08:15:00 - [52]
 

jita QQ best QQ

El Muerte Vitae
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:37:00 - [53]
 

Agreed ban them all for the OPs reason..

Also they are mostly complaining about the potential RMT stuff, when we can do that anyway..

Buy GTC game time... turn into plex, sell on market.... buy dreadnought etc.....

Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
Posted - 2011.06.25 09:57:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Oh''Freddled Gruntbuggly on 25/06/2011 09:59:21

How can you ban people for playing the game?

Is it the rioters fault that CCP never implemented any way of policing spontaneous in-game riots? In fact, about the only defence they have is the Jita cap, which was implemented for entirely different reasons.

Not that CCP can be blamed - how could they have anticipated this sort of thing, what with being so busy trying to figure out ways to exploit our loyalty for extra $$$?

About they only thing they can do - without violating their own licensing terms - is to send in a fleet of Jove ships to massacre the rioters.

Now that, I want to see.


Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:28:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Bloodpetal on 25/06/2011 13:28:05
Originally by: Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly

Is it the rioters fault that CCP never implemented any way of policing spontaneous in-game riots? In fact, about the only defence they have is the Jita cap, which was implemented for entirely different reasons.



Sandbox. Players can do what they want. Players have broken systems and pushed the system to the limits a long time ago for many other reasons, why attack them for voicing their opinion?

If they dispersed the riots they'd have even bigger problems.


Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:29:00 - [56]
 

Death to all Fanatics!

Friedhofsgirl
Caldari
Shadow Veil Industrial
Shadow Directive
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:29:00 - [57]
 

Protesting is good.

Damaging hardware isn't.

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:35:00 - [58]
 

If CCP wish to ban me for flying a Merlin around a rock then go for it. No modules active, no cans dropped, no drones.

Spc One
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:35:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Terms of Service, Rule #16
You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.

Our "client" log shows nothing.

Kendra Wilkinson
Posted - 2011.06.25 13:35:00 - [60]
 

Quote:
CONDUCTA. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game:
1.You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.2.You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
3.You may not use macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
4.You may not use the Software, or any information accessible through the System, to bypass the System login architecture or create or provide any other means through which the System may be accessed and/or the Game may be played by others, as, for example, through server emulators.
5.You may not engage in any conduct that results in an Account containing items, objects, currency, character attributes, rank, or status that are inappropriate for the level or rank of the character contained in the Account, including without limitation arranging, making or accepting transfers of items to a character without adequate consideration, thereby augmenting or aggregating items in an Account and increasing its value for an Account sale.



Source

may be it's time to use the ban hammer


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