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LtCol Laurentius
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:54:00 - [61]
 

Edited by: LtCol Laurentius on 25/06/2011 15:54:51
Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
Originally by: LtCol Laurentius
2300 accounts gone and counting



How many of those biomassed?

Thought so...


Well, biomassed or not doenst really matter now, does it? This isnt about players emoragequitting never to return ever ever ever. This is about denying CCP income they desperatly need to keep the company in business. Right now CCP operates on a thin profit margin. Huge expenses associated with development of two new games, and EVE online beeing their sole source of revenue for at LEAST another year. Most unsubs still love EVE online to the death, and if this is what it takes to make CCP see reason, so be it. And if they dont.... well, the biomass option will still be around.

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:56:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
Originally by: LtCol Laurentius
2300 accounts gone and counting



How many of those biomassed?

Thought so...


No, they canceled their subscription. And once they finally come to the realization that EVE is still the best damn MMO out there, MT or no MT, they'll come back.

Or to paraphraze Hillmar: "Actions speak louder than words"

Cashcow Golden Goose
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:57:00 - [63]
 

Posting in a stealth Hydrabreak thread.

Sandwich PvP
Furian Necromongers
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:01:00 - [64]
 

Gob, don't be a nub, the pubbies have no clue what is going on, they still think CCP is feeding them steak, not horse****....


Malice Redeemer
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:03:09
Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:02:53
We didn't all leave the day they started to f'up SWG but its still dead. And it was a better game then eve before they started to muck it all up

I will not play this game again unless they denounce pay CCP to win and restore the hanger view.

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Raven God
Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius?

You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints?

Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying.


yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned

I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference

only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books

I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with

Rockstar from Mars
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:05:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius

I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with


Thats pretty much the WHOLE *****fest. If no one thought that then there would no one whining.

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Malice Redeemer
Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:03:09
Edited by: Malice Redeemer on 25/06/2011 16:02:53
We didn't all leave the day they started to f'up SWG but its still dead. And it was a better game then eve before they started to muck it all up

I will not play this game again unless they denounce pay CCP to win and restore the hanger view.


SWG was completely changed, all that happened here so far was the introduction of a monocle, and the *implication* of nuclear disasters to come, because of a leaked newsletter. Also SWG didnt die until several years later.

Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA
KRYSIS.
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 - [69]
 

Unless those 2300 accounts biomassed or gave away all their stuff, they will return within a couple of months. their current rage quit means nothing. MT is the future of MMO's and to date, has never given people an advantage over other players in a non-voluntary subscription MMO.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:07:00 - [70]
 

FREE KARTOON!!!


Oh crap, wrong thread.

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:13:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Raven God
Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius?

You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints?

Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying.


yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned

I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference

only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books

I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with


We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this.

Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a **** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70.

Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting.

I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this **** is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this.

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:23:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Raven God
Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius?

You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints?

Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying.


yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned

I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference

only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books

I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with


We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this.

Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a **** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70.

Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting.

I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this **** is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this.



Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly.

Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big **** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers.

Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well.

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:31:00 - [73]
 

We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays?



Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:35:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Deja Thoris
We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays?





that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer


pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods?

Carmoisine Bavaire
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:36:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Raven God
Why aren't you mad Admiral Goberius?

You think that people should be able to buy standings, ships, ammo, mods, and possibly skillpoints?

Because thats what CCP is thinking about doing and not denying.


yeah I think that is fine and that scrubs are still gonna get owned

I also think (know) that HUGE ammounts of RMTing to achieve ingame advantages is already happening, and this wont make a big difference

only thing I see changing is newbies being able to skill up and catch up to vets faster if they wanna sink money in the process, which is also ok in my books

I do not think the eve economy will be destroyed, for the same reason that most player will rather buy plex than sell it - I also genuinely do not think CCP will sell non-vanity ships for MT unless its stuff for noobs to mission with


We crossed paths in a different thread but answer me this.

Dont you think CCP is fleecing people charging this much for items? It could have been so awesome. Everyone could have been happy. Imagine goonies all paying 20c to paint their rifters like bees. Looks awesome. CCP gets money and they playerbase thinks "cool". Winners all the way. I couldn't give a **** about the pay to win stuff. It happens already. What I care about is that CCP now sees their customers as loot pinatas. That offends me. Normally a company that wants to maximise revenue per head does something desirable to earn that money. You don't just a take turd, spray paint it gold and charge $70.

Also, premium vanity items are normally rare or high quality. That is why people pay extra. There is nothing rare or high quality about the tat that CCP is touting.

I'm all for supporting CCP and saying when they do good. Surely when they do bad we can tell them that too? Do you really want an Eve where the devs think this **** is cool? Imagine what they will come up with in future if you keep supporting decisions like this.



Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly.

Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big **** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers.

Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well.


+1

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:39:00 - [76]
 

Would suck to be one of these alliances sitting on lots of PLEX and tourney prizes I reckon. Not much to diversify into other than monocles Razz

Enjoy the trolls guys and enjoy cashing out (or trying to). I hear the RMT character xfer area out east is pretty saturated with offers. Even ones that don't involve paperclips.

Troll on.

Hillside Strangler
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:40:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Hillside Strangler on 25/06/2011 16:41:01
Strongly Agree with OP

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:43:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Deja Thoris
We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays?



that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer
pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods?


You misunderstand exclusiveness. It's exclusive if its hard to obtain or desirable for other reasons. Luxury hardbags or shoes for example, there is limited supply. This is normally coupled with high quality. Setting a high price on something doesn't automatically make it exclusive. They could spawn 3 billion monocles (and would if people bought them) How is that exclusive?

Oh, it isn't.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:49:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 25/06/2011 16:49:09
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Honestly I think you are deluded if you ever thought the devs were your friends or cared about you personally. This will sound like a personal attack or troll but I am saying it most honestly.

Lets look back at all the changes since bob died, the first titan nerf, then the nano nerf (big big **** you to the vets) and then the second titan aoe nerf. All these changes were greed based changes that were aimed at empowering whoever could get more friends to subscribe and help blob... at the expense of their older and most loyal custommers.

Yet we have all adapted and found new ways to succeed. I dont see how it will be any different after MT. I do not feel "used" by the devs any more than I did before. I agree their monocole is garbage and I simply dont care and wont buy it lol. I am their custommer since 6 years and I dont expect any special treatement. Likewise the second a better game than eve popped up I would be the first to wave them goodbye. This is not the case tho, and they know all too well.

The devs do not take sides, but they do care for us and increasing the number of players is the best you can do as a dev for an MMO.

If you want to complain about blobbing, then perhaps complain to those who blob you. No, wait, you just called them pubbies, right? Whatever ...

MT however is not adding anything to the game play. All the code developed is just so CCP can sell crap to a few players. That code needs to be kept uptodate and will eat money for years to come, while at the same time it does nothing to attract new players to EVE. Or do you see players subscribing so they can wear monocles? They are unsubscribing as a matter of fact and because they do not want this crap.

Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:50:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
why dont you ******ed sperging ***gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros

every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:"

face it you ****bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~



get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP

deal with it


Yay Gobbins your among the common sense dudes

Now get back to Exceed you traitor !! Laughing

Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:54:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: LtCol Laurentius
hey pubbie

1500 accounts gone and counting


so long o/

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:57:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Deja Thoris
We are on completely different wavelengths. I'm trying to point out that to charge prices like this CCP need to offer value. At the moment they are acting like parasites. Of course CCP cares about themselves, but to do right by themselves they need happy customers. What the **** does this have to do with nano nerf and AOE doomsdays?



that was in relation to feeling like you were a number rather than a customer
pricing value doesnt mean anything, the value offered isnt in the quality of the pixels but their exclusiveness - when is the last time you entered an accessories shop in rl and complained their prices are too high compared to the value of the goods?



You misunderstand exclusiveness. It's exclusive if its hard to obtain or desirable for other reasons. Luxury hardbags or shoes for example, there is limited supply. This is normally coupled with high quality. Setting a high price on something doesn't automatically make it exclusive. They could spawn 3 billion monocles (and would if people bought them) How is that exclusive?

Oh, it isn't.


Yes it is. Same concept applies to limited edition prints or collectors edition content. Basically you are free to pay more for something worthless. But it is silly to demand the price of this worthlesness to be reduced, it is literally set by the seller.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 25/06/2011 17:03:59
Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Yes it is. Same concept applies to limited edition prints or collectors edition content. Basically you are free to pay more for something worthless. But it is silly to demand the price of this worthlesness to be reduced, it is literally set by the seller.

These worthless items are however allowed to have a price in the EVE universe, because they can be sold and bought for ISKs.

You can argue about having worthless items in the game (which I would object to). Introducing them and making them part of the market is going two steps too far for most players.

Why not wear a monocole for real while you play EVE? They can still sell it at the fan store. But why make it part of the game when it does not contribute to any of the game mechanics? It is a waste of resources.

Nessa Aldeen
Caldari
The Sword and The Shield
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 - [84]
 

+1 to Gobs

Scrubs + Whiners: By all means leave, all 2300 of you or more (so you claim, and they claim) the less of you, the more iskies I can hoar, and more monocles i can buy.

Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of *****ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years.

I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're *****ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc.

The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go.


Savion Chastis
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:08:00 - [85]
 

lol, whiteknighting PL

Rockstar from Mars
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Nessa Aldeen
Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of *****ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years.

I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're *****ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc.

The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go.




First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong.
Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue.

Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh?

Ludacrys
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:14:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Ludacrys on 25/06/2011 17:14:10
GOBBINS! dont be mad bro, im sure you and your friends can make it to at least the semifinals next year if you train hard

Admiral Goberius
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:16:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Rockstar from Mars
Originally by: Nessa Aldeen
Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of *****ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years.

I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're *****ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc.

The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go.




First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong.
Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue.

Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh?


I dont see no MT ammo ingame do you? Whatever implications or scenario you want to create out of an out of context internal mail leak does not make it real.


Also why would MT ammo be a problem at all? Do you think a fleet with MT ammo wouldnt get steamrolled by a bigger blob or a outplayed by a better FC? Then all you did was spend RL cash to give good loot to your enemies.

Same with a possible MT ship, perhaps ransoms will be paid via paypal. Now that would be boss as hell.

DogFACE1
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:17:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
why dont you ******ed sperging ***gots copy paste one of the old ragequit posts from last year instead of putting effort into new rage and reposting unfunny facepalm macros

every year the same threads pop up with everyone declaring they are cancelling subs and "oh how can ccp be so stupid" and "this game is dead" ":ccp:"

face it you ****bird babbies will keep on playing no matter what and deep inside you dont even care about incarna/aur because at the end of the day it does ZERO difference to the everyday gameplay; you just want to yell loud so that everyone remembers you have played eve for ~quite some time now and your opinion matter~



get over yourselves eve is a good game BECAUSE spergelords like you are ignored by CCP

deal with it


UMAD BRO?

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.25 17:19:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Admiral Goberius
Originally by: Rockstar from Mars
Originally by: Nessa Aldeen
Fact of the matter is you can buy a monocle in a day or two if you play eve instead of *****ing like some nub from WOW. Resistance to change is silly, especially when the change is a large one and is in the right direction (yes, right direction). CQ is early stages and AUR IS optional. The newsletter was nothing but a discussion between two blokes. I see nothing of the kind of spamrage you all claim e.g. lies. Conjecture from a newsletter and some email that you have all pre-determined to fit within your own narrow agendas make even some of your points worthless. And if you bothered to look through the newsletter, all I see is that CCP practise some of the best open discussion regarding the work, organization and employees. And they have similarly done so with the community for the last 8 years.

I reckon that the community has indeed been spoiled to the point like children who rollaround on the carpet when they don't get their toys. I also wager that the only reason you're *****ing so hard is coz you can no longer afford those 6 accounts you had with PLEX. So get a haircut and get a job and sub with a cc.

The one thing I do not agree with CCP is monetizing free 3rd party info/app. That needs to go.




First of all, if you can't already afford several monocles you are doing it wrong.
Secondly the monocle is a strawman. Few people actually care because as you say AUR is optional. The problem comes in when they start selling performance items (Better ammo, better guns, SP, etc) for AUR then it stops being optional if you want to be on a level playing field. THATS the issue.

Maybe you should read the arguments before you comment on them, eh?


I dont see no MT ammo ingame do you? Whatever implications or scenario you want to create out of an out of context internal mail leak does not make it real.


Also why would MT ammo be a problem at all? Do you think a fleet with MT ammo wouldnt get steamrolled by a bigger blob or a outplayed by a better FC? Then all you did was spend RL cash to give good loot to your enemies.

Same with a possible MT ship, perhaps ransoms will be paid via paypal. Now that would be boss as hell.


Back in the day one dude got ransomed for a pizza. Having people pay real life cash for getting locked down would increase piracy mos'def.


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