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Duvious
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:22:00 - [2821]
 

Edited by: Duvious on 26/06/2011 10:33:08
Edited by: Duvious on 26/06/2011 10:23:10
My sub has been cancelled as of a few minutes ago. Vote with your wallet people, and not in the way CCP is hoping for by supporting MT's.

NOTE: Would have been a 4 year subscriber as of Nov. 27th, 2011. Way to lose a loyal customer CCP.

Nemesor
Gallente
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:22:00 - [2822]
 

Originally by: Kaos Supreme
We, the PAYING customers, the ones who PAY YOUR SALARIES, want the following >

NO MICRO-TRANSACTIONS FOR NON VANITY ITEMS!

FIX THE ****IN LAG SO THAT MAJOR ALLIANCES CAN COMPETE FOR CONTROL OF REGIONS AND THE RESOURCES WITHIN(As advertised) SO THAT STRATEGY & TEAMWORK DETERMINES THE OUTCOME NOT LAG!

NULL SEC AND MOON RESOURCES NEEDS A MAJOR OVERHAUL!

DESTROY ONCE AND FOR ALL THE ABILITY TO RUN BOTS / MACROS!


"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

— Friedrich Nietzsche




And fix damps and blasters. And admit the nano nerf was just a bit severe!

Rhynn Izo
Caldari
Banzai Institute for Advanced Warfare and Tactics
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:26:00 - [2823]
 

Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 24/06/2011 21:02:44
You still haven't repeated your commitment to never bringing non-vanity MT's, but it doesn't matter.

A long-term MMO like Eve is built on trust.

Why should I keep investing time, effort and money into this game to someday achieve great things if the game MIGHT NOT be worth playing in 6 months?

CCP has shown many times that its promises are meaningless.

The only thing now that you can do is DELIVER. Your words have no value and won't stop the exodus. The time to promise to never bring non-vanity MTs is gone, you can't even reiterate promise, but it doesn't matter because we don't trust you anymore, anyway.

Only your ACTIONS could change something.

Remove the Noble Exchange, give players back the PLEX's they have spent on Aurum and make all the Noble Store content free for everyone.
Then, add a "Disembark Ship" button to make CQ OPTIONAL. If Incarna is good, players will use it, don't make us vomit it to your face by trying to force it down our throat.

That should be enough to stop the bleeding until the next time you **** because we all know you are too stubborn to do what the CSM tells you and to learn from your mistakes.

It takes years to build trust and just a few seconds to destroy it.

That devblog isn't addressing the elephant in the room.


*signed* Very Happy

Wingspread
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:31:00 - [2824]
 

Originally by: Rhynn Izo
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Edited by: Don Pellegrino on 24/06/2011 21:02:44
That devblog isn't addressing the elephant in the room.


Right now it seems that the devblog is in itself the elephant in the room.

McBane
Gallente
AFK Initiative
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:33:00 - [2825]
 

Well, before that 'blog' I was probably just hanging on to my sub, but after reading that, my sub is about to be cancelled.
What was the point of it, to **** us off more? I mean it answered no questions and stead fast refused to admint that they are wrong on pricing - despite being the laughing stock of the Internet gaming world currently.
That shocking lack of understanding of it's own playerbase (and indeed out of touch with th world in general!) combined with what appears to be a steady move towards using aurum for game affecting goods, see's me, with regret, bow out.
My only annoyance now is I subbed for 6 months the last month - is it possible to get a refund?

Anepo
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:42:00 - [2826]
 

Originally by: Roh Voleto
Edited by: Roh Voleto on 24/06/2011 21:08:42
That's not gonna cut it, buddy. I do love the part where you ignore every single issue people are actually concerned about, though.

Edit: I wonder what it will be like to log into Tranquility on a Sunday afternoon and see less than 10k users online.


Ironicly one of the corrupt bankers who helped in robbing the nation of Iceland and bankrupting it leaving the country devistated owns a large percentage in CCP.
I would not be surprised this was his doing. As he is friends with some of the staff as well.

I heard ONE good news yesterday. Star wars galaxies will be closing it's door.
And now seeing the way EVE has gone. I am looking forward to CCP doing the same.

Hopefully they get what they diserve for having NO respect for they're customer.
And that would be the bankruptcy of CCP (sadly though if they go bankrupt the people have to pay it because the owners will drain the money and send it off shore as they did with the banks)
But atleast would be nice knowing a few hundred thousand people could possibly come here and run and gun down those bastards.

Danly Steel
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:49:00 - [2827]
 

Hey, I'm struttin' right now. Got my $1K jeans on, got my monocle in position, got my . . . um . . . got my ship hung up on a mission acceleration gate and can't warp because stupid physics are less important than monocles to CCP. How can a spaceship get hung up on asteroids and gates?--maybe the pricey jeans pockets are catching something.

Remember, mates. In space, no one can hear your jeans.

Suicide Failed
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:52:00 - [2828]
 

1 Question.

Why does CCP Zulu refer to money as dollars? he is from Iceland! Iceland has the Krona!
Does this mean Zulu is based in America? if so then why is he doing a blog as the atlanta offices are the ones working on WOD!

Can someone explain? (i am asking everyone else as i know CCP arent going to answer this.)

Roger Stein
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:53:00 - [2829]
 

I, too, have unsubscribed, at least for the time being. Although you will not find me stomping around spreading doom-and-gloom messages about something that was discussed in an internal newsletter, I do not intend to financially support this game until my concerns are satisfactorily alleviated.

- Roger Stein

Yeo San
Neoanarchistic Society
Posted - 2011.06.26 10:54:00 - [2830]
 

Originally by: James StormRider
Hey guys I see that it's still going on people saying they are canceling there accounts and how eve is going to die because of AUR and the NEX store. Why not stop and see what is realy going to be offered in the NEX store other than clothes before leaving eve. CCP is going to do what they are going to do might as well enjoy eve until we all see what direction the NEX store is going to take than cancel your account / accounts if you don't like it. I for 1 and others I know would pay like 5.00 usd extra a month for a monthly license to be able to use our roq or carrier in hi-sec. O what fun it would be to wage hi-sec war with my carrier along side my Meg lol. Or having my roq in a hi-sec ice system compressing every ice cube in sight O the tears from the carebears lol. But that's not going to happen now or down the line.

CCP is alot of things but from all my years in eve the 1 thing they are not is crazzy enought to screw up a good thing. Now people are going crazy over mt for clothes items and mt will prob be used for custome ship paint jobs. But who cares I don't want any items like that. All I want is what I have now free updates cool ships to fly around in and the up coming station enviroment to play around in while my new alt is stuck training until he can have the skills needed to do some thing other than blow rats up. That is what this move by CCP is all about making a place and offering items to bring new carebears to eve so we can find new ways to gank them LOL. Like the time 1500.00 usd worth of plex was blown up in jita that was a blast LOL. Just think of a hauler load of NEX store items being ganked in Jita and all the tears of the carebear that lost it. I say bring it on CCP and let the ganking start in 5..4..3..2..1... GANK LOL. Twisted Evil

Poor richman!

You are telling, what most of the players, that are posting here, don't want:
pay to win eve.
great idea harrassing noobs with your carrier in highsec - why not supercaps and titans, freshly bought from the store, because (possible) demand is legalizing everything?

THIS actually is the way of killing a good game.

Much posters in this thread - including me - are passionate about eve ... still.
but this passion causes fear of the changes you endorse, by the weak argument that the wonderful side of the NEX-Store is creating more expensive killmails.

I hope that you are not serious in this position.
otherwise I hope, that your highsec carrier will get blown up by supercap.

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:00:00 - [2831]
 

Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 11:01:35
Page 338-339 people figure out that it's not Hilmars fault.

A major breakthrough in the history of Eve.

Jannx
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:03:00 - [2832]
 

Originally by: Danly Steel

Remember, mates. In space, no one can hear your jeans.


Or see them.

Skie Ankora
The Growroom
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:13:00 - [2833]
 

Edited by: Skie Ankora on 26/06/2011 11:15:17
From a loyal player that has never made a negative comment on the forums before...

But this time I feel I have to respond:

Quote:
We will gradually introduce items at other price points, definitely lower and probably higher than what‘s in the store today. We hope you enjoy them and are as passionate about them as you are of the current items that are for sale.


That, sir, is a staggeringly disgusting response. I can only read it as sarcasm. You've insulted yourself and the company you work for.

Blast Radius1
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:23:00 - [2834]
 

Edited by: Blast Radius1 on 26/06/2011 11:24:23
"Ironicly one of the corrupt bankers who helped in robbing the nation of Iceland and bankrupting it leaving the country devistated owns a large percentage in CCP.
I would not be surprised this was his doing. As he is friends with some of the staff as well."

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, say WHAT?!!
Really? You kidding, right?

Hadley's Hope
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:25:00 - [2835]
 

"Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? "

You CCP guys are fool. I dont give a **** what are people thinking of me. But when its get obivious that CCP thinks I'm nobody, after my 3 years subs, still not care but makes me fustrated. I go find another game to play, where business strategies starts with the CLIENTS. This is a game.. providing fun to the clients. Not anger.. Why should I buy any items, with a better bonus, after that I payed for my game time.
Can I ask you something? How many glasses did you sell? LOL You are really idiots.

Grit Diaspora
Gallente
Titan Inc.
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:29:00 - [2836]
 

Originally by: Kaos Supreme
We, the PAYING customers, the ones who PAY YOUR SALARIES, want the following >

NO MICRO-TRANSACTIONS FOR NON VANITY ITEMS!

FIX THE ****IN LAG SO THAT MAJOR ALLIANCES CAN COMPETE FOR CONTROL OF REGIONS AND THE RESOURCES WITHIN(As advertised) SO THAT STRATEGY & TEAMWORK DETERMINES THE OUTCOME NOT LAG!

NULL SEC AND MOON RESOURCES NEEDS A MAJOR OVERHAUL!

DESTROY ONCE AND FOR ALL THE ABILITY TO RUN BOTS / MACROS!


"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

— Friedrich Nietzsche




THIS ^

Elveszemazisked
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:31:00 - [2837]
 

Hahahaha LOL I hope I get the glasses when I pod somebody. OH wait.. I cancelledLaughing

Jonathan Caldar
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:33:00 - [2838]
 

Just Canceled both my subscribtions, here a little advice...

There are a few things we can do about the ongoing situation:

1. Post on the forums. Any kind of post is good as long as it talks about the issue.
2. Make sure your EvE friends are aware of the current situation.
3. Cancel your subscribtion.
4. Join protestors in major trade hubs by shooting stuff.
5. If you are CEO of the corporation ban usage of Aurum items.

Amaldor Themodius
Psykotic Meat
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:34:00 - [2839]
 

Terrible response and evidence that CCP senior leadership is out of touch with the player community.. In case the message from your customer base has not yet registered let me be clear.

  • Unilaterally most of your player base is opposed to microtransactions in game. With all the broken content and stuff that needs fixing that you chose to invest resources in this trashy money grabbing feature is mind boggling.

  • Captains quarters yay its nice to see the game evolving toward out of pod content but ffs stop being d1cks about it.. Is there really a need to cram this content down each players throats? A room a hallway and a balcony are not the most engaging in game features. In fact i'd go as far as saying the CQ content iin its current format is just extra grind / time wasted loading screens, walking, etc which isnt really anything to do with the actual game play.


  • Next, stop crying u giant CCP pu55y i mean seriously build me an igloo with your frozen tears, do something useful. Your company has established the culture of eve and you havent had any issue with player raging at players for 8 years. Now u guys finally have the veil pulled down from your crappy alias's and now u burst into tears.. Oh cruel world its soooo not fair.. Harden the fark up u big girl. The seething hot bed of CCP poltics is laughable and I'd argue the internal staff who leaked these docs are probably the only employees with a glimmer of integrity, dont chastise them give them a medal u dumb a55


My perception of CCP has never been worse low integrity, out of touch and perhaps fearless are some of the problems. Possibly time to get rid of some of the dead wood in the company; CCP soundwave would be at the very top of this list having listened to him during AT9 and seen his rubber stamp on the evolving game content any value he may once have had as a game developer is clearly long since gone. Consumer sovereigntny may be a new concept at CCP but heres the deal get back to your core values of making the game good, of building genuine value added features and keeping yourselves at the cutting edge of game development... do this and you will continue to enjoy making profits from space games.. dont do this and we your customers will withdraw the income your derive from our subscription and your company will become further wreckage in an econnomy that is under the burden of recession.

Dr Sodius
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:37:00 - [2840]
 

Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this


Amaldor Themodius
Psykotic Meat
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:42:00 - [2841]
 

Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this



this

FluffyTheWonderBunny
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:45:00 - [2842]
 

Originally by: Amaldor Themodius
Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answer if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this



this

this

GIDGET GLAM
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:47:00 - [2843]
 

Originally by: Dr Sodius
Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this



SpySpySpySpy
Posted - 2011.06.26 11:52:00 - [2844]
 

Originally by: GIDGET GLAM
Originally by: Dr Sodius
Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this




Woo Mi
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:00:00 - [2845]
 

Hmm, is this a trend towards instant gratification?
You already lowered the requirements for high quality mission and research agents, making them easier accessable for noobs.

If you now start game influencing sales of toys/SP/standing then what you are basically saying is that you don't value the time people spent in the game workings towards something, but that you only value our money. This is not something that awards a long term commitment to the game on the side of the players.

Dathas
Minmatar
Dawn's Requiem
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:02:00 - [2846]
 

Dear CCP,

As a long time (2004) player and former member of the Camarilla my advice about the NEX:

Stop listening to the White Wolf people; alienating your customer base through sheer greed is a stupid move, as they clearly demonstrated over and over. Don't act like you are doing us some great service when in fact you are slapping us in the face. Listen to what these forums are saying and what people are complaining about. These aren't technical glitches or just some new graphical change, but a fundamental change in the relationship you have with your players, and you need to think long and hard as to how you are going to proceed.

Eve is a tight community. One server world does that to us. We have in the past felt like CCP was more connected to that community than other <coughSonyBlizzardcough> game developers. What you are showing now is that we may have been wrong. We are doubting you and your commitment to providing the product and service you have always tried to in the past: a fun, dynamic experience that is deep and immersive.

When you start making it less about that, you will start losing your long time player base. When you come back with responses that amount to "Suck it up and deal" you will lose even more.

I'm not leaving... yet; I have friends and plenty of good times, but listen to all of these posts. Listen to how your customers, players and fans are reacting to your treatment of them.

Dathas, out.

Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:09:00 - [2847]
 

Originally by: Blast Radius1
Edited by: Blast Radius1 on 26/06/2011 11:24:23
"Ironicly one of the corrupt bankers who helped in robbing the nation of Iceland and bankrupting it leaving the country devistated owns a large percentage in CCP.
I would not be surprised this was his doing. As he is friends with some of the staff as well."

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, say WHAT?!!
Really? You kidding, right?


Dudes name is josepeh Gallo and is CCP's Cheif Financial offficer. Checking out Linkedin he is about 2/3rd's of the way down. Its the likes of crooks like him that casued the Global Credit Crisis etc. so don't be suprised to see CCP crash and burn with the likes of him near the levers of power.

Masanganar
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:17:00 - [2848]
 

Originally by: Dr Sodius
Originally by: Ilmunel
Originally by: Dark Intaki

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?



CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.




This... will answere if i keep playing or not
I want all my fellow eve players to quote this and not suggest any other stupid points, this is the only thing that needs a damn answer



this



Holly Cleland
Special Operations Foxhound
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:30:00 - [2849]
 

Edited by: Holly Cleland on 26/06/2011 12:30:25
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?


CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.


Addendum: CQ is lame, bring back ship spinning



Taskar Tremens
Psykotic Meat
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.06.26 12:34:00 - [2850]
 

Originally by: Holly Cleland
Edited by: Holly Cleland on 26/06/2011 12:30:25
Quote:

Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?


CCP ZULU DO YOU SEE THE QUESTION ABOVE?

CAN YOU READ IT? GOOD, NOW LISTEN UP.. WE DONT CARE ABOUT THE PRICE OF YOUR STUPID HELLO KITTY ****

WE WANT AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOVE IN YELLOW, CAN YOU COMPREHEND MY ENGLISH??? IF NOT PLEASE REPLY AND I WILL TRY MAKE IT MORE TOWARDS A 5YEAROLDS MENTALITY.


Addendum: CQ is lame, bring back ship spinning




this


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