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Harune Sasen
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:53:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Harune Sasen on 23/06/2011 19:57:46
CCP has been monopolizing space sim for a long time, but there has been alternatives in development for a some time now, one of such games is Inifity universe;

Official site

does anyone else know any good ones ?

Sambal Natinde
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:00:00 - [2]
 

Thanks for the link, am looking for another space game as well.
Now that CCP starts to treat their mostly adult customer base in the same way as Blizzard does their kiddie fanbase, namely cattle... it is time to count our blessings.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:03:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 20:03:49


I hope that the old saying of -where there is chaos, there is opportunity- holds true.

Some savvy investor or MMO producer aware of the EVE plight is sure to cash in on it if done correctly. Lot's of unhappy players right now.


Darth Khasei
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:04:00 - [4]
 

I had not heard about this, but it looks really good. Seems like they are going for EVE based on twitch. Not sure how good it will be, but I will keep my eyes and mind open to what they are going to offer.

If nothing else it will give EVE/CCP some competition to think about vs forcing pod pilots to exit their ship into a storefront.

Zorash Xanten
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:05:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 23/06/2011 20:03:33
I hope that the old saying of -where there is chaos, there is opportunity- holds true.

Some savvy investor or MMO producer aware of the EVE plight is sure to cash in on it if done correctly. Lot's of unhappy players right now.

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^^This, If there was any half decent Space based MMO out there I'd give CCP the ole 'go foth and procreate'

LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Dark Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:05:00 - [6]
 

The mechanics are a little different, but I think Vendetta Online also seems like worth a shot and it has a native Linux client as well, so thumbs up for that. I'm giving it a shot here, I may post a review later.

There is also Free Allegiance, also with slightly different dynamic, and I believe it is free to play.

I'll edit this post if if come upon any others.




Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:06:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Sambal Natinde

...their mostly adult customer base...


Sorry, Sambal, I think we've been reading different forums the last few days.

You see. If you read the EVE forums, you'd quickly realize that any adults that may have played EVE left a long time ago.

Mr Epeen Cool

Salomei
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:10:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Salomei on 23/06/2011 20:15:25
Sounds a lot like the MMO version of Elite/Frontier/FE that I was looking for when I found EVE. I worry about the Newtonian physics, though. In FFE, it was super easy to let your acceleration get the best of you and then you lost who you were fighting and hurtled off into a rock or something.

Edit: Based on some reading and a look at the visitor polls, though, it's likely to be a WoW-ish carebear playground, despite the potential.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:14:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: LIOZTH
The mechanics are a little different, but I think Vendetta Online also seems like worth a shot and it has a native Linux client as well, so thumbs up for that. I'm giving it a shot here, I may post a review later.

There is also Free Allegiance, also with slightly different dynamic, and I believe it is free to play.

I'll edit this post if if come upon any others.




Those are two very interesting options. I had not heard of them...thanks for the links.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:16:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: LIOZTH

There is also Free Allegiance, also with slightly different dynamic, and I believe it is free to play.



Which is a mix of FPS and RTS, and yes its free to play. Pretty much twitch-based combat system, and game balance is non-existant imo.

Fun space shooter nonetheless with quite a bit of strategy elements, if you can look beyond the absolutely terrible graphics (read: they werent even good for 2002 standards).

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:18:00 - [11]
 

LOL

Infinity is vaporware of the worst kind. There has been zero development and news on that since he released the ICP what.. 4 years ago? Now he's shifted focus on developing the game to developing the engine so he can sell it.

Infinity will most likely never release, though a major studio may pick up the engine and do something cool with it.

All the other games mentioned suck.

Earth and Beyond is cool, and free

enb-emulator.com .. still in stress beta however so it's buggy.

NosubstanceHere
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:22:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: NosubstanceHere on 23/06/2011 20:22:38
Here is something that is free to play. I havent been able to try it yet as I am in the United States, but some gamers in Europe might like it. http://blackprophecy.com/

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:26:00 - [13]
 

I wouldn't write off Infinity just yet. They've set up the company to market the engine, and then are going to build the game around it. I've been keeping my eye on it for over a year now, and while it'll be a few more years until a game is made, I think that they are making clear progress. Just the fact they they now exist as a company shows how far they have come.

Taliah Meyhin
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:29:00 - [14]
 


NosubstanceHere
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:30:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: NosubstanceHere
Edited by: NosubstanceHere on 23/06/2011 20:22:38
Here is something that is free to play. I havent been able to try it yet as I am in the United States, but some gamers in Europe might like it. http://blackprophecy.com/

Nevermind....after a closer look. This looks like exactly the type of game I didn't want eve to turn into.

YouShouldntEatIt
Caldari
Interstellar Waste Management Committee
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:36:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: YouShouldntEatIt on 23/06/2011 20:36:14
there's an old space game called Darkspace i think.. it was really fun.

Edit: not to mention Star Sonata. I loved that one.

Rojo Mojo
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:36:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: LIOZTH

There is also Free Allegiance, also with slightly different dynamic, and I believe it is free to play.



Which is a mix of FPS and RTS, and yes its free to play. Pretty much twitch-based combat system, and game balance is non-existant imo.

Fun space shooter nonetheless with quite a bit of strategy elements, if you can look beyond the absolutely terrible graphics (read: they werent even good for 2002 standards).


Its community run, from where Microsoft left it back in 02. It is regularly updated by people who devote their free time to it. But its a match based FPS game where you start out in teams with a FC who choses what tech to research and the object is destroy all the bases of the other team.

Mr Smooth
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:37:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Sambal Natinde

...their mostly adult customer base...


Sorry, Sambal, I think we've been reading different forums the last few days.

You see. If you read the EVE forums, you'd quickly realize that any adults that may have played EVE left a long time ago.

Mr Epeen Cool


You are still here though I see ;p

AviendhaYasu
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:38:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: AviendhaYasu on 23/06/2011 20:39:21
Originally by: Taliah Meyhin
Gemini Wars
Jumpgate Evolution
Distant Worlds
Sins of a Solar Empire


Sins is an ABSURDLY epic RTS space game.
Something between the Dawn of War games and EVE.

edit: I'm using the term epic in the sense of grandeur, not the "lol epic" sense it so often gets used in these days.

LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Dark Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:42:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Chandaris

All the other games mentioned suck.



Blanket statement, and I disagree, I just downloaded Vendetta Online (not a huge download BTW) and went through a couple of their tutorials, and it does look very interesting, different from EvE in a lot of ways, but interesting nonetheless. Too early to really tell if it is something I would get into fully (certainly worth dropping an ALT account and getting a VO one), but I think I will delve a little deeper into it, and see if it is indeed a worthwhile change. Considering the state of things on EvE, it will be a welcomed change.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:43:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: AviendhaYasu
Edited by: AviendhaYasu on 23/06/2011 20:39:21
Originally by: Taliah Meyhin
Gemini Wars
Jumpgate Evolution
Distant Worlds
Sins of a Solar Empire


Sins is an ABSURDLY epic RTS space game.
Something between the Dawn of War games and EVE.

edit: I'm using the term epic in the sense of grandeur, not the "lol epic" sense it so often gets used in these days.


agreed.

I enjoyed sins very much.

Morgan Polaris
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:44:00 - [22]
 

http://gog.com

Also has Alpha Centauri, Freespace's, Total Annihilation, Privateer, Dungeon Keeper. Just good games.

Azurath Sakura
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:46:00 - [23]
 

World of Tanks here i come!

FYI CCP

Star Wars games > EvE Incarna

ANYONE ELSE > you.

IF you ever find a resolution to these problems and start deploying expansions and patches that ACTUALLY WORK

not only will i eat those words
i will also eat an entire bag of dogfood.
with a topping of poop.

Well, that'll never happen!!!

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:47:00 - [24]
 

http://www.perpetuum-online.com/

Very similar to Eve but with mechs/robots. It is a new game/Indie developer so it does have some improvements that are needed. It does however have a lot of potential.

Doav Inarvo
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:53:00 - [25]
 

Sorry but all these games look like total **** compared to EVE, I'm peaved off over this latest expansion as much as you guys but honestly EVE is still the best Fi-Sci MMO out there.

And just so you know, "Free to play" only means it has more crappy micro-transactions than EVE has, in fact you absolutely can not go far in a free to play game without spending $$$.

Some of these games uggested are RTS games not MMOs, and no one dare suggest Star Trek online.

Sannye
Posted - 2011.06.23 21:02:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Doav Inarvo
Sorry but all these games look like total **** compared to EVE, I'm peaved off over this latest expansion as much as you guys but honestly EVE is still the best Fi-Sci MMO out there.

And just so you know, "Free to play" only means it has more crappy micro-transactions than EVE has, in fact you absolutely can not go far in a free to play game without spending $$$.

Some of these games uggested are RTS games not MMOs, and no one dare suggest Star Trek online.


Eve looks good, granted.
But, looks > content for the last 3 "game updates".
I'd rather have content, and a non-broken game.

LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Dark Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2011.06.23 21:05:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Doav Inarvo
Sorry but all these games look like total **** compared to EVE, I'm peaved off over this latest expansion as much as you guys but honestly EVE is still the best Fi-Sci MMO out there.

And just so you know, "Free to play" only means it has more crappy micro-transactions than EVE has, in fact you absolutely can not go far in a free to play game without spending $$$.

Some of these games uggested are RTS games not MMOs, and no one dare suggest Star Trek online.


I disagree, granted I just downloaded it myself but there look to be '0' micro transactions in Vendetta Online, and I would certainly not qualify it as an RTS, it just does not fit that model.

Will you need to get an ALT account or something similar in VO, that could be the case (have not played enough of it yet really), but it isn't like I don't do that already here.

Your statement that "the games look like total s*h*i*t compared to EvE" maybe an accurate one (from initial introspection), but at least in my case I am not exactly shooting for looks. I like to look at the overall package before I make such a decision.

So since you have made an all encompassing statement such as this, it is my assumption you have downloaded every game on this list and have already tried it? If this is the case why not give us an actual review of the game?

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 21:07:00 - [28]
 

I'd LOL'd if a Dev posted a recommendation in this thread.Very Happy

LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Dark Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2011.06.23 21:10:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
I'd LOL'd if a Dev posted a recommendation in this thread.Very Happy


Honestly I'm amazed it is still open, I'm sure CCP probably doesn't like open discussion of a possible alternative; we'll see how long this lasts.

Mr Smooth
Posted - 2011.06.23 21:11:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Atticus Fynch
I'd LOL'd if a Dev posted a recommendation in this thread.Very Happy


I think they are all hiding behind a couch.


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