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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:09:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate.


The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary).
That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness.


It wouldn't fit well with the in-game world / lore setting to have modern Earth advertisers.

Thinking about this though I thought something cool for some of you sci-fi people would be a Bladerunner Online MMOG. Now there is a world where seeing huge screens around town advertise odd commercials with Asian characters on screen and Coca Cola would fit.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:22:00 - [242]
 

Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 29/06/2011 03:25:19
Originally by: Cameron Freerunner
This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous.

This post was about the breadth of media coverage and their impact on Eve/CCPs image... not so much to their contents. This is what the public sees and perception is reality... even if that reality is false.
There are some good ones on the list that cover the topic in detail and other smaller articles that arent included.

MyShip SmellsLikeFarts
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:35:00 - [243]
 

Dey be takin der knocks good, mon!

Irie Irie Irie
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:37:00 - [244]
 

YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT?

Mechatronicus Anihilus
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:43:00 - [245]
 

Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 29/06/2011 03:45:17
Originally by: Kelban Kevar
Originally by: Cameron Freerunner
This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous.


dude could not have said it better


So CCP called an emergency CSM meeting to fly the player reps out to Iceland based on "no real information?"

Would Mr. All-Knowing and his SuperFanBoy care to enlighten the rest of us as to the last time that happened?

Pure Tabasco
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:43:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Irie Irie Irie
YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT?

LOL you only need the FFFFF face.

Kelban Kevar
Gallente
Evocations of Shadow
Eternal Evocations
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:44:00 - [247]
 

well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store and with all other mmos doing the same thing how can any of you be suprised at all.and that still dont change the fact you still dont have to spend real money on the mt store.just convert plex you buy with isk.out side the vocal 2% no one eles gives a flying ****

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:45:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Kelban Kevar
well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store and with all other mmos doing the same thing how can any of you be suprised at all.and that still dont change the fact you still dont have to spend real money on the mt store.just convert plex you buy with isk.out side the vocal 2% no one eles gives a flying ****


no is upset about the MT store idiot.

Kile Kitmoore
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:55:00 - [249]
 

Here's another one for the fire:
MMORPG - EVE's New Macro-Transactions

Could not find that on the list. Got to love that title.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:56:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: Jada Maroo on 29/06/2011 03:57:06
The press is really bad all around for CCP. You need only read the comments at these sites to see that. This isn't so much about individual articles as it is bad press and player reaction as a whole.

Other MMO forums are LOLing at Eve's notion of "micro"transactions as well.

In the end, though, you have to look at CCP's stated goals with Incarna. CCP's goal was not to sell 50-100 monocles for people to troll with. CCP's goal was to attract a whole new mass of players. New players who read about Incarna on MMO sites and gaming blogs and forums. New players that are now, instead, reading about CCP not giving a damn about the opinions of their players. In that sense, Incarna is a total PR disaster.

Kile Kitmoore
Posted - 2011.06.29 04:29:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 29/06/2011 03:57:06
The press is really bad all around for CCP. You need only read the comments at these sites to see that. This isn't so much about individual articles as it is bad press and player reaction as a whole.

Other MMO forums are LOLing at Eve's notion of "micro"transactions as well.

In the end, though, you have to look at CCP's stated goals with Incarna. CCP's goal was not to sell 50-100 monocles for people to troll with. CCP's goal was to attract a whole new mass of players. New players who read about Incarna on MMO sites and gaming blogs and forums. New players that are now, instead, reading about CCP not giving a damn about the opinions of their players. In that sense, Incarna is a total PR disaster.


In all honesty it really is heart breaking for those of us who really believed in the Incarna project. What CCP has done, perverted it into cash register then shoved it down our throats by removing the hanger view. The pricing, which I really don't care about, has become quite the laughing stock. The really sad part is they are going to let an entire week pass before really doing anything, and god only knows what the "something" is going to be.

ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
Posted - 2011.06.29 04:55:00 - [252]
 

Originally by: Kile Kitmoore


In all honesty it really is heart breaking for those of us who really believed in the Incarna project. What CCP has done, perverted it into cash register then shoved it down our throats by removing the hanger view. The pricing, which I really don't care about, has become quite the laughing stock. The really sad part is they are going to let an entire week pass before really doing anything, and god only knows what the "something" is going to be.




What do you mean wait? CCP has been deleting, and locking threads. Also gagging players and slandering rioters.

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
Posted - 2011.06.29 05:20:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Kelban Kevar
well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store


You do understand that for every PLEX that has been used by someone to 'pay' for their game time, someone had to give CCP the $$$ for the PLEX in thr first place?

For someone whose corp claims to be an 'Investment Bank' you really don't understand money very well.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.29 06:33:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Jint Hikaru
Originally by: Kelban Kevar
well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store


You do understand that for every PLEX that has been used by someone to 'pay' for their game time, someone had to give CCP the $$$ for the PLEX in thr first place?

For someone whose corp claims to be an 'Investment Bank' you really don't understand money very well.

Actually I had a feeling we would be where we are now after they introduced that... so no suprise there. Just didnt think they were gonna screw it up so badly.

Cameron Freerunner
Posted - 2011.06.29 13:50:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Irie Irie Irie
YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT?

I'm not sure you understand the difference between information dissemination and the echo chamber. Though that's hardly surprising in the modern media climate. It doesn't matter if 500 articles are posted that say 'people are mad about monocles.' It is a story that goes nowhere, mainly because it doesn't have a lot of substance.

The number of stories that have mentioned the Fearless letter's title incorrectly is a sure sign that the majority of the stories are essentially reposts, not true articles by actual reporters. Instead of calling the issue by its actual name "Greed is Good?" with the question mark, they leave it off. As do many posters in this forum. The question mark makes all the difference. The meme team working against CCP is leaving footprints and they aren't hard to find. The missing question mark is the giveaway. A real reporter (and some of those articles are of a higher quality than most) would properly attribute the name.

In reality, the underlying message of those articles is "EVE players love the game so much they'll actually stage protests. The game must be awesome to generate that sort of passionate response." You'll note none of the articles say anything about game play or quality.

Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:30:00 - [256]
 

i find this post to be amazing, i knew that once one website followed the story, it was always going to escelate to ALL websites in the end, it will be hillarious if this hit any of the new broadcasts like fox news or bbc lol

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.06.29 14:42:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 29/06/2011 14:42:37
.rockpapershotgun - Eve Online’s Struggle & CCP’s Redemption


Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.29 20:20:00 - [258]
 

Updated articles... Front page and page 8

Greup
Posted - 2011.06.29 21:02:00 - [259]
 

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/article13248043.ab

Now in swedish press also.


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