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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.06.26 21:19:00 - [211]
 

I have been away for a bit, trying to fume my rage somewhere else, rediscovered warband only to realize I'm for some strange reason still angry at all of this. It's like reliving history again for me.

After the first day of Jita protests and endearing everyone to join it, and being online for several hours I was wasted. This madness is absurd from CCP's part. I decided to keep myself informed off the official forums, because everytime I see the gray on black motif here I get the fit of anger and resentment.

So I surfed around many of the sites mentioned here and then stumbled upon this letter in MMORPG.COM in the EVE Online forums.

The somewhat active EVE forum Community there is actively raging too, and telling everyone to avoid the game, the newcomers are either in shock or completely unaware of the scale of the issue, yet that letter, was gorgeous, as it informed several sides of the current feelings floating around. I invite you to read that farewell letter to EVE, it is wonderful and represents the feeling of betrayal several people here felt too.

I hope this CSM ploy evolves into real action and answers, and it doesnt become another stalling procedure as more monocles are being sold.

Deja Blue
Gallente
Vimana Empire
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:04:00 - [212]
 

Edited by: Deja Blue on 26/06/2011 22:06:50
I have a nice thread going on the WoW forums.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721583151?page=1

a GREAT comment by Vrash: " I guarantee you that Blizzard, Sony, Cryptic, EA, etc. are watching the Jita Riots. You may not play EVE; you may not understand what the fuss is all about...but if you play an online game, this WILL affect you. The subscription model may be on its way out, but this is still relevant."

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:07:00 - [213]
 

updated

Lorimer
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:09:00 - [214]
 

anyone that thinks "The subscription model may be on its way out" is an idiot ?

Deja Blue
Gallente
Vimana Empire
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:16:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: Lorimer
anyone that thinks "The subscription model may be on its way out" is an idiot ?



Free to play is the future of MMOs. ONLY titans, excuse the pun, like WoW and EVE use the model still. Many heavy hitters have gone down, such as SOE with EQ2, LOTRO and DDO. If you dont have 11 million subscribers, F2P with a cash market just makes financial sense. It does NOT mean I have to like it. There are different ways to implement it such as EQ2s system where the pay to win is basic master-crafted gear that is inconsequential and only really helps in leveling, major gear such as raid gear is NOT sold, etc.

It is here to stay, it is the future.

Emiko P'eng
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.26 22:18:00 - [216]
 

PC Magazine has just published a very good article covering the events of the last few days
PC Magazine: EVE Online Gamers Riot Over Microtransactions Very Happy

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.26 23:03:00 - [217]
 

update - new massively article

Flaming Lemming
Caldari
Puppeteer Press
Posted - 2011.06.27 00:15:00 - [218]
 

Damn, that's a lot of looking bad!

Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
Posted - 2011.06.27 06:16:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Katrina Cortez

Articles like that are going to hurt new subscriber rates I'm sure.



How many 12yos do you talk to about what games to play?

How many 12yos read articles?

How many 12yos have the capability for critical thought?

CCP are genius.

Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Task Force 42
Posted - 2011.06.27 09:14:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: KatDjtized via Twitter


for the #tweetfleet's RT @eurogamer_net Eve Online: CCP addresses player revolt. Extraordinary meeting of th… (cont) http://deck.ly/~yATQS

Indy Rider
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.06.27 09:15:00 - [221]
 


Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.27 15:43:00 - [222]
 

Edited by: Demure Guise on 27/06/2011 15:44:39
A new article from Eurogamer released since the one listed above.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.27 16:27:00 - [223]
 

Updated links +5

Alara Shihari
Posted - 2011.06.27 19:15:00 - [224]
 

hmm, if EvE fails now, how would that affect Dust? since they are connected etc.
And seeing how bad things has gone with eve, i wouldnt be surprised if it actually fades out and dies..
and wouldnt that kinda kill the entire purpose of Dust?

Myself, i cancelled my 3 accounts yesterday ( was a returning player )
All the buggs, the choppy game play ( yea as many i cant afford a top of the line puter )
and now this stuff with the micro transactions kinda made me lose all hopes for this game.
Its quite sad, the playerbase and the ideals this game had, i personally think was uniqe,
and also the reason why i came back to it.

Pearljammer 5657
Caldari
Last Exit.
Posted - 2011.06.27 21:15:00 - [225]
 

Whats up CCP, we want answers.

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.27 22:47:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: Katrina Cortez
Updated links +5

Ta very much! I love these.

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:42:00 - [227]
 

Originally by: Demure Guise
Edited by: Demure Guise on 27/06/2011 15:44:39
A new article from Eurogamer released since the one listed above.


Damn you beat me to it. This is good stuff, CCP, I'd really recommend reading it.

Shadow XII
Posted - 2011.06.27 23:52:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players.

everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude.


Hats in TF2 start at a dollar. Most are seven dollars, they go as high as fourteen.

Clothes in Incarna start at 20, go up to 40 and even 70 dollars.

That's ****ing insane.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.28 00:23:00 - [229]
 

new article

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.28 17:40:00 - [230]
 


Ya Rayah Panala
Posted - 2011.06.28 21:40:00 - [231]
 

IMO, they should be DDoS'd again and again and again until they back off and say ok we'll remove Mts.

Benri Konpaku
Posted - 2011.06.29 01:37:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: Ya Rayah Panala
IMO, they should be DDoS'd again and again and again until they back off and say ok we'll remove Mts.


That could help them buy time. Better just block Jita and other hubs in game and spread the word outside of it.

Novon Toll
Posted - 2011.06.29 01:52:00 - [233]
 

Originally by: Demure Guise
CCP is a laughing stock after this fiasco, and they only have themselves to blame. Their corporate image must have taken a right kicking. I hope these articles continue.


True. They've got no one to blame but themselves.

This kind of poor decision making isn't the type of thing that is going to attract new players to try Eve Online. (Those Trolls that want to argue pro CCP can just shut it). I'd suggest CCP HTFU and face the fact that they made a bad decision and CONTINUE to poorly communicate. Unfortunately the management team making these decisions don't appear to know what they don't know. And aren't interested in listening to others opinions except when the flares go off like recently.

Katrina Cortez
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:13:00 - [234]
 

Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 29/06/2011 02:38:36
Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 29/06/2011 02:31:26
EVE Protest videos...

Burning Eden currently there are ~20 like this

Incarnageddon (new large text)

Raging while I mine

EvE Online Riot, Cali Games are Safe

Xtranormal move maker -
CCP Zulu (pants)

CCP discusses microtransactions


Movie Videos -
CCP after Incarna

CCP breaks out the BatPhone


Ronan Astrum
Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing
The Paganism Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:22:00 - [235]
 

I can't believe Eve players are too lazy to edit Eve's wikipedia entry.

I would do it, but I'm to lazy.

Mechatronicus Anihilus
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:23:00 - [236]
 

Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 29/06/2011 02:23:52
Originally by: Deja Blue
Free to play is the future of MMOs. ONLY titans, excuse the pun, like WoW and EVE use the model still. Many heavy hitters have gone down, such as SOE with EQ2, LOTRO and DDO. If you dont have 11 million subscribers, F2P with a cash market just makes financial sense. It does NOT mean I have to like it. There are different ways to implement it such as EQ2s system where the pay to win is basic master-crafted gear that is inconsequential and only really helps in leveling, major gear such as raid gear is NOT sold, etc.

It is here to stay, it is the future.

Wonderful bandwagon illogic. Just because some very financially successful MMOs use the microtransaction income model does not make it the correct one for all MMOs. The Eve equivalent of your EQ2 example would be to let players purchase items that increase the sp/hour they learn. They already do that with the system we have. Players can buy a plex with dollars, sell it for isk and buy +5 implants for a clone. It's more money for CCP and more isk for the player who ran traded LP for the implants and sold them on the market.

You use EQ2 in one breath as as an example of a heavy hitter that has gone down, and then in the very next breath next use their microtransaction system for master-crafted gear as an example of successfull implementation. So answer me this, genius-is EQ2 an example of microtransaction failure or success?

Irie Irie Irie
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:46:00 - [237]
 

+ rep to you for maintaining this list.

Kelban Kevar
Gallente
Evocations of Shadow
Eternal Evocations
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:53:00 - [238]
 

well as to seeing how i can buy plex with isk and then convert plex to that mq money i dont have a problem with this.but please keep whineing its funny

Cameron Freerunner
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:54:00 - [239]
 

This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous.

Kelban Kevar
Gallente
Evocations of Shadow
Eternal Evocations
Posted - 2011.06.29 02:58:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Cameron Freerunner
This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous.


dude could not have said it better


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