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Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:45:00 - [1]
 

The graphics settings at the moment are high enough to be the end of your computer over a short time.

If you use your computer for more than EVE (or even if you'd like to play EVE longer than a few days), change the default settings down from the 'high' that most are on.

You might want to download a freeware temperature monitor for your computer components (I use cnet, there are other reputable sources as well, but always scan for malware on downloads) and monitor your temperatures while using CQ. If playing with the settings can't bring it down from near boiling points, you may need to turn off CQ by not loading the station background.

CCP devs, I hope we'll see some improvements in this regard as currently the stress placed on your playerbase computers is too high.

RensPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:47:00 - [2]
 

if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.

Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:52:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.


This individual will not purchase a new computer for you. My computer is not overclocked. Many EVE players don't go that deeply into configuring the computer they use for EVE and other things.

Again, there are freeware temperature monitors (again, from sources you trust, and virus-scan them anyway). If when running CQ, you see your temperature climb dramatically higher than what you'd see when running other things, lower the graphics settings in EVE. If necessary, close CQ to save your equipment.


Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:54:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.

Clueless post is clueless.
It is entirely possible to stress hardware with pure software.

RensPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:55:00 - [5]
 

you motherboard will automaticly turn your computer off in case the cpu temperature raises to a critical threshold. every modern motherboard has that feature. if your cpu fries then your computer is not properly configured.

Also any gpu you can buy that is not the most low budget will run fine 24h under full stress without overheating. unless you have a tower with zero airflow.

caldar ian
Final Destination.
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.


Its late and I am tired of this forum and posting.

My cpu and motherboard fried last night after incarna was installed.

I dont overclock
it more than meets minimum spec
my pc is dust free
plenty of airflow

never had a problem with multiple clients until incarna,

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:57:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.

Clueless post is clueless.
It is entirely possible to stress hardware with pure software.


Yes, and this is called stress testing a graphics card to see if it works at the current settings.

NEWSFLASH - If the card fails when stress tested, either it is faulty or it is overclocked.


RensPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.

Clueless post is clueless.
It is entirely possible to stress hardware with pure software.


stress hardware != produce hardware failure. there is several stress test software available. theese are used by some larger companies to test new computers for configuration failures. if a stress test produces a hardware failure on a system, that system is send back to the manufacturer.

Aeveen
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: RensPriceChecker2
if your computer fries under stress then you propably baldly overclocked it. a normal configuration will never lead to a hardware failure.

Clueless post is clueless.
It is entirely possible to stress hardware with pure software.


It's not so much that software can max hardware. In fact you could argue that's the point of software entirely. The point is your hardware should be able to handle MAX load. If it can't then you have issues far beyond that which the software revealed.

Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:02:00 - [10]
 

Just noticed that my GPU is running at 125C Shocked Lowered graphic settings and we're now frying at only 105C... one feels some new cooling is needed here Confused

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:04:00 - [11]
 

U trolliologists can nitpick the guy all you want. CQ is overheating common machines. The guy is saying lower the ****ing settings. Mine are all at low. I'm not raging, CCP didnt do anything wrong, it's not a serious issue, calm down, get the stick out of your ass. He's saying lower the settings.

Christ, do you guys get paid to suck CCP **** like that?

Auss81
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:04:00 - [12]
 

I'm with You guys. I wrote in may threads I have a custom high-end PC bult for my 2D/3D graphic job. So I'm not a dumb, when I try the CQ it goes like crazy, a turbine!

All this is insane!! There are plenty of us having this issue! Never had an overheating issue before "INCARNA", so before yesterday!

Please stop saying "it's your cheap made system"!
If the game engine has a bug, or is badly coded, it asks the driver more and even more resouces making the card running at full dangerously. And this is incredibly useless and stupid for an ugly room called Captain's Quarters!

This is the point, and I want an answer from CCP about it.


RensPriceChecker2
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:06:00 - [13]
 

ccp have invented a secret internet weapon. they can make your pc explode through software. i see some contracts coming from asia...

Cathleia
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:09:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Cathleia on 22/06/2011 23:13:08
I guess I should be happy for my GPU to run at 81C max in CQ. :|

Edit: if anyone was wondering... same settings before incarna would get me 60C max.

Aeveen
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:10:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Aeveen on 22/06/2011 23:10:58
Originally by: Auss81
I'm with You guys. I wrote in may threads I have a custom high-end PC bult for my 2D/3D graphic job. So I'm not a dumb, when I try the CQ it goes like crazy, a turbine!

All this is insane!! There are plenty of us having this issue! Never had an overheating issue before "INCARNA", so before yesterday!

Please stop saying "it's your cheap made system"!
If the game engine has a bug, or is badly coded, it asks the driver more and even more resouces making the card running at full dangerously. And this is incredibly useless and stupid for an ugly room called Captain's Quarters!

This is the point, and I want an answer from CCP about it.




I'm not really trying to defend CCP as much as point out the fact that your "high end" system should be able to handle this load without overheating. If it can't you need to service your machine. It has dust, dying fans etc... This has nothing to do with how bad CQ is coded.

Foralai Altrus
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:16:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Aeveen
Edited by: Aeveen on 22/06/2011 23:10:58
Originally by: Auss81
I'm with You guys. I wrote in may threads I have a custom high-end PC bult for my 2D/3D graphic job. So I'm not a dumb, when I try the CQ it goes like crazy, a turbine!

All this is insane!! There are plenty of us having this issue! Never had an overheating issue before "INCARNA", so before yesterday!

Please stop saying "it's your cheap made system"!
If the game engine has a bug, or is badly coded, it asks the driver more and even more resouces making the card running at full dangerously. And this is incredibly useless and stupid for an ugly room called Captain's Quarters!

This is the point, and I want an answer from CCP about it.




I'm not really trying to defend CCP as much as point out the fact that your "high end" system should be able to handle this load without overheating. If it can't you need to service your machine. It has dust, dying fans etc... This has nothing to do with how bad CQ is coded.


Where my work computer is serviced weekly to keep it clean and is watercooled... it suffers in CQ, and it's used for 3D rendering of complex structures that would bring most high end gaming rigs to their knees in shame.

CCP has released a buggy engine trying to use the entire eve playerbase as alpha testers for their WoD game... to cut costs without considering the ramifications of doing so (now try to imagine the performance hits with multiple avatars in a room.. or heaven forbid combat)

Loki Vengeance
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:27:00 - [17]
 

First of all, let's get something straight: there's no magic in application software that will cause hardware to mysteriously overheat. Can a poorly written driver work with poorly designed hardware to result in damage by disabling critical cooling and protection? Yes. Is Eve Online a driver with that sort of access to your hardware? No.

Eve Online is just another software application and cannot do anything more than ask your CPU and GPU to perform calculations, store data, and retrieve data. That's all either of those things do. It can ask your CPU and/or GPU to store a lot of data, retrieve a lot of data, and perform a lot of calculations, but that is all. There is no magic dust; no special sauce; no man behind the curtain. All Eve Online - all ANY application software - can ever do is ask your hardware to execute the instructions built into your hardware.

Now, why might your computer start to overheat after installing and running something like Eve Online or Starcraft 2 (another application previously accused of damaging hardware)? Simply put: because more is being asked of it than is typically the case. Starcraft 2 and Eve Online's new captains' quarters feature represent a significant increase in hardware overhead. This means your CPU and GPU will be asked to do more and brought closer to running at their respective capacities. How much closer depends on your particular hardware. Many will see their CPU or GPU usage jump to at or nearly 100% capacity all the time while running Starcraft 2 or Eve Online's captains' quarters. In those cases, if the cooling in place is unable to keep the component temperatures within normal ranges, results may vary from slowness to crashing and even (in extreme cases) hardware failure.

Now, is it Starcraft 2's fault or Eve Online's fault that the components overheated when they were run at or near their capacity? No. Such failures only EVER happen because there is not enough cooling in place. Eve Online is simply asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and run calculations. If doing those things (the only things those components CAN do) causes a component to fail, the fault is not with the software sending the instructions. You can say you put as many fans in your case as you like. You can say you run application X, Y, and Z all you like. You can say you have your A+, MCSE, and ACLU membership card. None of that makes a damn bit of difference to the plain and simple reality that all Eve Online is doing is asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and perform calculations. If your components fail while doing those tasks due to overheating, it is - and can only ever be - because the cooling in place is insufficient.

My personal experience has been that while running the captains' quarters on the two 1920x1080 fixed window max quality instances (two copies of Eve open at once on the same computer), my framerates on both are constant at around 30 and my CPU usage is about 12 -14%. CPU and GPU temps are a few degress higher than they were prior to the patch, which is consistent with the higher usage (used to be 8 - 9% with two copies of Eve open). When undocked, my framerates jump into the 50s and my CPU usage drops to about 8%.

What you should take away from this is that there's no magic smoke in the computer and no mystery instruction or bug in Eve Online or any other application which can cause your hardware to overheat. CCP certainly has a lot of room to make the captains' quarters feature less hardware-intensive, but they have no way to fix overheating hardware. Anyone having problems with overheating has a cooling problem; NOT a software problem.

Foralai Altrus
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:35:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Loki Vengeance
First of all, let's get something straight: there's no magic in application software that will cause hardware to mysteriously overheat. Can a poorly written driver work with poorly designed hardware to result in damage by disabling critical cooling and protection? Yes. Is Eve Online a driver with that sort of access to your hardware? No.

Eve Online is just another software application and cannot do anything more than ask your CPU and GPU to perform calculations, store data, and retrieve data. That's all either of those things do. It can ask your CPU and/or GPU to store a lot of data, retrieve a lot of data, and perform a lot of calculations, but that is all. There is no magic dust; no special sauce; no man behind the curtain. All Eve Online - all ANY application software - can ever do is ask your hardware to execute the instructions built into your hardware.

Now, why might your computer start to overheat after installing and running something like Eve Online or Starcraft 2 (another application previously accused of damaging hardware)? Simply put: because more is being asked of it than is typically the case. Starcraft 2 and Eve Online's new captains' quarters feature represent a significant increase in hardware overhead. This means your CPU and GPU will be asked to do more and brought closer to running at their respective capacities. How much closer depends on your particular hardware. Many will see their CPU or GPU usage jump to at or nearly 100% capacity all the time while running Starcraft 2 or Eve Online's captains' quarters. In those cases, if the cooling in place is unable to keep the component temperatures within normal ranges, results may vary from slowness to crashing and even (in extreme cases) hardware failure.

Now, is it Starcraft 2's fault or Eve Online's fault that the components overheated when they were run at or near their capacity? No. Such failures only EVER happen because there is not enough cooling in place. Eve Online is simply asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and run calculations. If doing those things (the only things those components CAN do) causes a component to fail, the fault is not with the software sending the instructions. You can say you put as many fans in your case as you like. You can say you run application X, Y, and Z all you like. You can say you have your A+, MCSE, and ACLU membership card. None of that makes a damn bit of difference to the plain and simple reality that all Eve Online is doing is asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and perform calculations. If your components fail while doing those tasks due to overheating, it is - and can only ever be - because the cooling in place is insufficient.

My personal experience has been that while running the captains' quarters on the two 1920x1080 fixed window max quality instances (two copies of Eve open at once on the same computer), my framerates on both are constant at around 30 and my CPU usage is about 12 -14%. CPU and GPU temps are a few degress higher than they were prior to the patch, which is consistent with the higher usage (used to be 8 - 9% with two copies of Eve open). When undocked, my framerates jump into the 50s and my CPU usage drops to about 8%.

What you should take away from this is that there's no magic smoke in the computer and no mystery instruction or bug in Eve Online or any other application which can cause your hardware to overheat. CCP certainly has a lot of room to make the captains' quarters feature less hardware-intensive, but they have no way to fix overheating hardware. Anyone having problems with overheating has a cooling problem; NOT a software problem.


There is things called optimization and actually coding your graphics engine not to max out the graphics processors. CCP got sloppy and released an alpha client for the playerbase to test for cheap (well pay to test) for their WOD game

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:47:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Crystal Liche on 22/06/2011 23:51:19
You get what you pay for when you buy your computer.

That $800 HP or Dell with cooling based soley on the under sized power supply at the store is actually not designed to run at full power, it will overheat. The manufacturers assume most customers will just surf the web. Worse yet many people buy one of these basic machines and then stick an upgraded video card in it.

How it behaves will depend on how cheaply built it is. Some will have a secondary fan that is so loud it scares you when it runs, others will just shutdown and some really crappy machines will fry the video card due to no airflow. Many only monitor CPU temp, not video card.

Then it gets worse, dust, smoke residue for smokers, all that works to reduce cooling efficiancy every day the machine is used.

If you want to run at MAX settings you need the gear, that goes for any game.


EDIT: Lets hear real specs on these overheating computers... Shocked

Foralai Altrus
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:51:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Crystal Liche
You get what you pay for when you buy your computer.

That $800 HP or Dell with cooling based soley on the under sized power supply at the store is actually not designed to run at full power, it will overheat. The manufacturers assume most customers will just surf the web. Worse yet many people buy one of these basic machines and then stick an upgraded video card in it.

How it behaves will depend on how cheaply built it is. Some will have a secondary fan that is so loud it scares you when it runs, others will just shutdown and some really crappy machines will fry the video card due to no airflow. Many only monitor CPU temp, not video card.

Then it gets worse, dust, smoke residue for smokers, all that works to reduce cooling efficiancy every day the machine is used.

If you want to run at MAX settings you need the gear, that goes for any game.



8000 dollar water cooled rendering server redlines. Try again, computers are not meant to be redlined constantly regardless of cooling ability to keep them going. It's a sign of bad programming.

Hell crysis never did it, nor does any other game out there. They know they need to keep from redlining the user's hardware... CCP, just wants testers for a new mmo.. hence the bad duct taped implementation of CQ onto EVE

Gabriel Grimoire
Amarr
Ascendent.
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:55:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Loki Vengeance
First of all, let's get something straight: there's no magic in application software that will cause hardware to mysteriously overheat. Can a poorly written driver work with poorly designed hardware to result in damage by disabling critical cooling and protection? Yes. Is Eve Online a driver with that sort of access to your hardware? No.

Eve Online is just another software application and cannot do anything more than ask your CPU and GPU to perform calculations, store data, and retrieve data. That's all either of those things do. It can ask your CPU and/or GPU to store a lot of data, retrieve a lot of data, and perform a lot of calculations, but that is all. There is no magic dust; no special sauce; no man behind the curtain. All Eve Online - all ANY application software - can ever do is ask your hardware to execute the instructions built into your hardware.

Now, why might your computer start to overheat after installing and running something like Eve Online or Starcraft 2 (another application previously accused of damaging hardware)? Simply put: because more is being asked of it than is typically the case. Starcraft 2 and Eve Online's new captains' quarters feature represent a significant increase in hardware overhead. This means your CPU and GPU will be asked to do more and brought closer to running at their respective capacities. How much closer depends on your particular hardware. Many will see their CPU or GPU usage jump to at or nearly 100% capacity all the time while running Starcraft 2 or Eve Online's captains' quarters. In those cases, if the cooling in place is unable to keep the component temperatures within normal ranges, results may vary from slowness to crashing and even (in extreme cases) hardware failure.

Now, is it Starcraft 2's fault or Eve Online's fault that the components overheated when they were run at or near their capacity? No. Such failures only EVER happen because there is not enough cooling in place. Eve Online is simply asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and run calculations. If doing those things (the only things those components CAN do) causes a component to fail, the fault is not with the software sending the instructions. You can say you put as many fans in your case as you like. You can say you run application X, Y, and Z all you like. You can say you have your A+, MCSE, and ACLU membership card. None of that makes a damn bit of difference to the plain and simple reality that all Eve Online is doing is asking your CPU and GPU to store data, retrieve data, and perform calculations. If your components fail while doing those tasks due to overheating, it is - and can only ever be - because the cooling in place is insufficient.

My personal experience has been that while running the captains' quarters on the two 1920x1080 fixed window max quality instances (two copies of Eve open at once on the same computer), my framerates on both are constant at around 30 and my CPU usage is about 12 -14%. CPU and GPU temps are a few degress higher than they were prior to the patch, which is consistent with the higher usage (used to be 8 - 9% with two copies of Eve open). When undocked, my framerates jump into the 50s and my CPU usage drops to about 8%.

What you should take away from this is that there's no magic smoke in the computer and no mystery instruction or bug in Eve Online or any other application which can cause your hardware to overheat. CCP certainly has a lot of room to make the captains' quarters feature less hardware-intensive, but they have no way to fix overheating hardware. Anyone having problems with overheating has a cooling problem; NOT a software problem.


Please go read up on what code optimization is and how it can affect hardware load before dismissing software as a culprit in overheating.

Improperly optimized code can and will cause machines that are stable under normal loads to f*ck up royally.


Kheldon Fel
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:56:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Foralai Altrus
Originally by: Crystal Liche
You get what you pay for when you buy your computer.

That $800 HP or Dell with cooling based soley on the under sized power supply at the store is actually not designed to run at full power, it will overheat. The manufacturers assume most customers will just surf the web. Worse yet many people buy one of these basic machines and then stick an upgraded video card in it.

How it behaves will depend on how cheaply built it is. Some will have a secondary fan that is so loud it scares you when it runs, others will just shutdown and some really crappy machines will fry the video card due to no airflow. Many only monitor CPU temp, not video card.

Then it gets worse, dust, smoke residue for smokers, all that works to reduce cooling efficiancy every day the machine is used.

If you want to run at MAX settings you need the gear, that goes for any game.



8000 dollar water cooled rendering server.



:areyou****ingkiddingme:

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:58:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Foralai Altrus
Originally by: Crystal Liche
You get what you pay for when you buy your computer.

That $800 HP or Dell with cooling based soley on the under sized power supply at the store is actually not designed to run at full power, it will overheat. The manufacturers assume most customers will just surf the web. Worse yet many people buy one of these basic machines and then stick an upgraded video card in it.

How it behaves will depend on how cheaply built it is. Some will have a secondary fan that is so loud it scares you when it runs, others will just shutdown and some really crappy machines will fry the video card due to no airflow. Many only monitor CPU temp, not video card.

Then it gets worse, dust, smoke residue for smokers, all that works to reduce cooling efficiancy every day the machine is used.

If you want to run at MAX settings you need the gear, that goes for any game.



8000 dollar water cooled rendering server redlines. Try again, computers are not meant to be redlined constantly regardless of cooling ability to keep them going. It's a sign of bad programming.

Hell crysis never did it, nor does any other game out there. They know they need to keep from redlining the user's hardware... CCP, just wants testers for a new mmo.. hence the bad duct taped implementation of CQ onto EVE



$8000 and it can't run CQ, ripped off Laughing

I'm running Alienware for 2k with liguid cooling and dual NVIDAs on 27 inch monitors at MAX settings without even breaking a sweat. My fans are below 1k rpms and is is 95f here in CA atm, about 80 in my office.



OverlordY
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:58:00 - [24]
 

If ur PC cant run at 100% load without blowing up, id suggest building it better.

Cassidy Dee
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:03:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: OverlordY
If ur PC cant run at 100% load without blowing up, id suggest building it better.


Yup exactly this.

Like another guy said, CCP doesnt have some magic function they can call to make your computer catch on fire. Is CQ 100% fully optimized? Of course not, nothing is. Is it causing your computer to run hotter than no CQ? Yep. Is it their fault your computer catches on fire when it runs at clock speeds? Of course not.

Gabriel Grimoire
Amarr
Ascendent.
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:05:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Crystal Liche

$8000 and it can't run CQ, ripped off Laughing

I'm running Alienware for 2k with liguid cooling and dual NVIDAs on 27 inch monitors at MAX settings without even breaking a sweat. My fans are below 1k rpms and is is 95f here in CA atm, about 80 in my office.



Code optimization comes down to individual components (read: CPU/GPU) not being properly utilized and therefore results in redlines.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the components themselves, rather the interaction between the software and said components not occurring within proper bounds.

Example; there is a persistent issue with COD:BLOPS where certain higher end quad and dual core CPUs will simply not run the game smoothly because they are either constantly redlining or spiking for no apparent reason. Other (less powerful) models, even single cores, have no such issue. This has to do with how the software is written, not the hardware itself.

These types of issues are becoming more and more common as game developers get lazier and lazier when optimizing. (Especially when it's a console ported game, such as COD:BLOPS)

CCP hasn't optimized Incarna correctly, which is why so many people are reporting insane hardware loads and overheating, and others (quite possibly with less powerful machines) are not.

Just be happy that your hardware plays nice with Incarna (luckily mine does too) because it seems to be a crapshoot.

flapie 2
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:06:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: flapie 2 on 23/06/2011 00:09:11
Its funny how low-end machine have no problems, and some more high-end systems do. I think there is indeed some bad code somewhere, tho this doesnt have to be CCP its fault.

Iff they used the right tools and code snipets provided by the GPU companys (ATI(AMD), Nvidea, etc), there is this thing called drivers that process the input into your GPU.
Iff they dint release the new drivers yet, witch happens quite often tbh, that "bad code" might indeed give your GPU to much workload.

Or a Coder at CCP made typo in the code, witch is hard to believe cause the color of the command will change if its not correct (Visual Basic, HTML editor and tons of other coding programs do). Not impossible but rather hard to make mistakes sometimes, unless you copy and paste to much. Not to speak of the fact that sometimes your core wont even compile with to manny incorrect or "bad" codes.

Small example would be Need For Speed: ProStreet, where the CPU dint seem to process some code in the right way, giving me a GPU error mssg at startup (systemspec just above minimal at that point in time). I bug reported for that, did some analyzing for them, did some more analyzing for them. And ended up playing another NFS game cause they (i mean we) could not solve it.

Not saying eve wont work smooth ever again, but since there always on the edge @ CCP this might aswell be as complicated as that error i had with NFS PS, but can be driver issue or memory leak just aswell.

Auss81
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:07:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Auss81 on 23/06/2011 00:10:37
Originally by: Foralai Altrus
Originally by: Crystal Liche
You get what you pay for when you buy your computer.

That $800 HP or Dell with cooling based soley on the under sized power supply at the store is actually not designed to run at full power, it will overheat. The manufacturers assume most customers will just surf the web. Worse yet many people buy one of these basic machines and then stick an upgraded video card in it.

How it behaves will depend on how cheaply built it is. Some will have a secondary fan that is so loud it scares you when it runs, others will just shutdown and some really crappy machines will fry the video card due to no airflow. Many only monitor CPU temp, not video card.

Then it gets worse, dust, smoke residue for smokers, all that works to reduce cooling efficiancy every day the machine is used.

If you want to run at MAX settings you need the gear, that goes for any game.



8000 dollar water cooled rendering server redlines. Try again, computers are not meant to be redlined constantly regardless of cooling ability to keep them going. It's a sign of bad programming.

Hell crysis never did it, nor does any other game out there. They know they need to keep from redlining the user's hardware... CCP, just wants testers for a new mmo.. hence the bad duct taped implementation of CQ onto EVE



This is just what I tried to sayWink

We have here an incomplete, non optimized graphic engine for the CQ! How many polygons, effects and textures do You think can have "a single room"??

With my system, without dust or dirt inside, I can run FSX all maxed up and with complex payware aircrafts and environmental addons.

I can assure You FSX maxed up this way is incredibly heavy, but my i7, 8 GB and HD 6970 can handle it with ease without spinning up like the Jet's engines I'm flying.

So, yesterday I updated to Incarna, went inside the CQ and..... What? for a small room my PC is running at full? I Never reached 110 C with all my VGAs.

I want to make clear that I'm confused by a "small room" is demanding 100% to my hardware. It's a nonsense.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:07:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Ioci
CQ is overheating common machines. The guy is saying lower the ****ing settings.


Another option would be to clean the fans once in a while. Most stock equipment comes with horribly underpowered cooling, and the fact that the manufacturer tested it in their QA labs for three days does not mean it works as well after the fans collected a years worth of dust.

Gabriel Grimoire
Amarr
Ascendent.
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.06.23 00:08:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: OverlordY
If ur PC cant run at 100% load without blowing up, id suggest building it better.


You're missing the point.

NO software should be causing constant 100% loads on ANY modern (read: less than 5 years old) CPU. And furthermore, CPUs are simply not DESIGNED to run at 100% load constantly.

Sh*tty optimization is sh*tty.


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