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Phil Reacher
Reachers Independent Traders
Posted - 2011.06.22 17:50:00 - [31]
 

You can ship spin in the fitting window

well kind of

Savage Angel
Gallente
Gambler's Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.22 17:52:00 - [32]
 

Wow, there are people who really think 'ship spinning' is really about spinning a ship?

You guys need to get out more.

Rugs
Amarr
Clown Punchers.
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:03:00 - [33]
 

Unfortunately, no one can be told what ship spinning is, you have to see it for yourself...

Brahan Seer
Minmatar
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:04:00 - [34]
 

I needs it, i wants it!

Murev Vorchilde
Caldari
End Game.
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:09:00 - [35]
 

Ship was spinning my gameplay of choice Crying or Very sad
some people mine, i span.
now i have little reason to log on

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:11:00 - [36]
 

It's less about ship spinning and more about losing the ability to ship spin to a feature (CQ) that I could care less about and I'll never use.

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:13:00 - [37]
 

It's like habit. I'm sitting in station and I go to drag my mouse across the screen and nothing happens. FUUUUU

But yeah, it's an old habit like a card player shuffling their hand or something. Imagine if you'd been doing that for years and suddenly someone came along and said no you can't do that, you must stare at this static picture of a door instead. (Can't run CQ cos it ****s my machine).

XIRUSPHERE
Gallente
Deadly Intent.
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:17:00 - [38]
 

Because I am a demigod bound to my ship and it's systems, everything I do as a capsuleer revolves around the privilege to pilot such craft. Why would I bother with entering the frail world of flesh unless I absolutely had to.

Hra Neuvosto
The 8th Order
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:21:00 - [39]
 

Not really the spinning itself, but being able to easily and timely see what ship you're in without having to walk around and/or open any windows.

Also right clicking ship functions and drag and drop ship change.

It just worked better, was doing carrier logistics earlier and it was infuriating.

Riffix
The Graduates
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:45:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Not really the spinning itself, but being able to easily and timely see what ship you're in without having to walk around and/or open any windows.

Also right clicking ship functions and drag and drop ship change.

It just worked better, was doing carrier logistics earlier and it was infuriating.

I'm assuming you're not doing this already, but you could always enable ship/items merge with station panel and it is right there for you. Shocked

As for original post, I think what you are seeing is a lot of people complaining merely because things are "different" and it is easy to whine when others are. EVE is about change. Always has been and always will be. If people don't get that they need to HTFU or leave. I've been playing since 2003 and I really don't miss ship spinning at all.

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:52:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Riffix
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Not really the spinning itself, but being able to easily and timely see what ship you're in without having to walk around and/or open any windows.

Also right clicking ship functions and drag and drop ship change.

It just worked better, was doing carrier logistics earlier and it was infuriating.

I'm assuming you're not doing this already, but you could always enable ship/items merge with station panel and it is right there for you. Shocked

As for original post, I think what you are seeing is a lot of people complaining merely because things are "different" and it is easy to whine when others are. EVE is about change. Always has been and always will be. If people don't get that they need to HTFU or leave. I've been playing since 2003 and I really don't miss ship spinning at all.

Hurr durr I'm a useless ccp alt HTFU HTFU m8 m8 o7 o7 lolrotflbbq

stilz
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:53:00 - [42]
 

8 long years I've enjoyed sitting in the hanger looking at all my beautiful ships.

8 long years and I've never had to make a post on these forums.

I am now staring at a door..

-stilz

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:01:00 - [43]
 

why is hip spinning important?!?!?!? WHY!? because i love to look at my ship from any angle i want so i can bask in its majesty and glory. and i don't care if i have seen that angle a thousand times, I WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN!

not to mention the old view was ALOT less of a performance hog

Arya Greywolf
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:02:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Arya Greywolf on 22/06/2011 19:01:51
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Thank you those of you for these replies explaining why you have interface issues of CQ. But I am wondering more specifically about the act of spinning the ship. It seems to be a huge complaint that players cannot sit in the dock and "spin" their ship. As a new player I am not aware of any history on this. Ayieka said it was an EVE inside joke....is that all it is that has people THIS ****ed off about this one aspect? They can't spin their ship as an EVE inside joke? I am hoping to hear from the ship "spinners" just to get some insight into this...just curious...


The ship spinning has a little to do with it, but I think (and I do not think I speak for myself) that it's a bunch of other issues that (that might SEEM minor but aren't) that were connected to the old hanger view. Liang does a good job comparing it with habits/interface ease with relation to CS.

For me, it's the ease of access that has been slaughtered by the new CQ. First, in general just not having the ability to see what ship your currently in is irritating - you have to click. Another thing is not being able to double click to open your cargo. Finally (although there are more little things) dragging ability with certain items is gone now as well.

All of these changes combine to make the interface/accessibility just - well - crap compared to what it used to be.

CCP, please let us have to option to choose between CQ and old hanger view.

Galandole Tsuramananda
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:03:00 - [45]
 

Why is ship spinning important?

Because, idiot, if it wasn't for ship spinning, the bitter vets would have NOTHING to justify their QQing and rage.

Duh.

ThunderEyes
Amarr
ClawsAndTeeth
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:06:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: stilz
8 long years I've enjoyed sitting in the hanger looking at all my beautiful ships.
8 long years and I've never had to make a post on these forums.
I am now staring at a door..

-stilz



more or less this. tho this quote does upp my post count to 2

Zief
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:08:00 - [47]
 

It's important because I'm a Capsuleer, a demigod, Atlas incarnated. I command money and power beyond the scope of mere mortal understanding. I'd much rather see my HAC spinning in station, looking deadly and lethal, but instead I'm now treated to an Emo-Douchebag-Nerdbat sitting in a ****ty low rent apartment watching the news. I don't watch the ****ing news! I MAKE the news! I smash entire fleets of NPC battleships without blinking, I mine hundreds of millions of cubic meters of minerals single handedly. I fight epic battles over the richest and most lawless territories! I DEAL OUT DEATH AND CARNAGE ON A TRUELY MASSIVE SCALE, AND WHEN I DIE, I SAY "**** YOU!" AND AM RAISED FROM THE GOD DAMNED GRAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

CCP has neutered this game in a profound way. Bring back my spinning ship!

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:10:00 - [48]
 

I know it sounds kinda stupid, but I already really mis it. Just was in a station, disabled CQ (:CCP: implementation of an idea that isnt *that* bad) and tried to ship spin several times and everytime i realised that isnt possible anymore :(

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:10:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
Why is ship spinning important?

Because, idiot, if it wasn't for ship spinning, the bitter vets would have NOTHING to justify their QQing and rage.

Duh.

hurr durr prepare your anus for whatever ccp shoves in there

Kartaugh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:21:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Tarantoga
Itīs pretty sad we canīt do this anymore Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btLqRUD6BU


EPIC!

Scorpii Zenith
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:25:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Seriously. I am new to EVE and I just don't understand the amount of complaints about not being able to spin the ship in the hanger since the first stage rollout of Incarna....someone please explain this. I am not being silly or trolling. I really do want to know as it seems to have REALLY ****ed a lot of peeps off.
Because all these 1337 pvpqueeers run their bots on background while they are ganking t1 haulers in lowsec enterpoint and their crappy PC in their moms basement is melting down.Wink

Galandole Tsuramananda
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:27:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Im Super Gay
Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
Why is ship spinning important?

Because, idiot, if it wasn't for ship spinning, the bitter vets would have NOTHING to justify their QQing and rage.

Duh.

hurr durr prepare your anus for whatever ccp shoves in there


Ladies and Gentleman, an example of the kind of person I mentioned in my earlier post.

Thank you for your contribution.

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:29:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
Originally by: Im Super Gay
Originally by: Galandole Tsuramananda
Why is ship spinning important?

Because, idiot, if it wasn't for ship spinning, the bitter vets would have NOTHING to justify their QQing and rage.

Duh.

hurr durr prepare your anus for whatever ccp shoves in there


Ladies and Gentleman, an example of the kind of person I mentioned in my earlier post.

Thank you for your contribution.

There's no ladies in here you liar

Lucilla Giulia
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:30:00 - [54]
 

we miss it (well at least i do) 'cause it was a silly and funny way to spend time while checkin market orders/waiting for fleets to formup/chatting with friends/etc
a way that didn't require a top tier machine to run, unless this new CQ stuff.


Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:38:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Oh''Freddled Gruntbuggly on 22/06/2011 19:38:21
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Seriously. I am new to EVE and I just don't understand the amount of complaints about not being able to spin the ship in the hanger since the first stage rollout of Incarna....someone please explain this. I am not being silly or trolling. I really do want to know as it seems to have REALLY ****ed a lot of peeps off.


You can now spin not just one ship, but the entire car-park, but there seems to be something wrong with the spin-mechanic. It's quite a minor point and not worth a full-fledged bug-report but since you've expressed an interest in spinning I'll tell you about it. This only occurs on multiple monitor set-ups when playing windowed. If you drag the mouse for a maximum rev spin the inertia will inevitably take the mouse pointer outside of the game window. This seems to brake (and thus break) spinning. It spins fine in full-screen though, although feels a little weird to have the spin axis running vertically through oneself. It's possible that this out-of-screen behavior was extant pre-patch, but I guess we'll never know.

Car park spinning isn't half as much fun as ship spinning. When the car-park spins around you it's like you're drunk, and maybe not such a good idea to drive after all.

One hopes that when the door to the station finally opens we will be able to group-spin out in the shopping malls that we'll be able to access.

Incidentally, why do you think it's not possible to breath the atmosphere inside the station but it's fine to go wandering around in the car park?




Listen Quietly
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:38:00 - [56]
 

i spent 2 hrs last night **** spinning. its more entertaining than ship spinning imho.

Dr Zom
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:38:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Dr Zom on 22/06/2011 19:41:20
Since CCP has acknowledged that CQ is an optional feature (as in, it is in the options) they should at least have a viable alternative to it, say one already developed and battle hardened for several years. Instead we can look at a jpeg of a walkway.

What ship am I flying? I don't know, because all I can see is a painting of a walkway somebody put on this wall over here, since otherwise my MB overheats...

Machete Visor
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:45:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Shenna Dim're
Originally by: Optional Patch
Originally by: Braeda Darro
Your active ship is floating on your holo or right out in the hanger in front of you....you DO have the ability to see it....


Ishtar or Vexor? Faction, T1, or T2, see a pattern? And what if you're, wait for it, not looking in the direction of the little hologram? Like I don't know.. when you dock?



Look up. Your ship is in the hanger. It's plain as day if you turn your head and look up.


those of us w/o the ability to use incarna without massive lag can't do this. when we turn off CQ, it is a bland background.

Ship spinning is kind of a nervous habit for many eve players.

Taking it away is like taking away cigarettes.

I could always occupy 10 seconds of idle thought spinning my ship while figuring out what to do next.
Now i just see a background... it is a subtle, but important, psychological difference about keeping someone's attention on the game.

Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:19:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Oh''Freddled Gruntbuggly on 22/06/2011 20:22:10

Spin is back!

In short: Show info on ship, click ship image, expand window to full screen, spin.

This could even be considered a full optional upgraded spin feature that justifies Incarna by itself. Well done CCP!

Thanks to this thread for discovering it:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534531&page=1


Oorat'k Draq
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:21:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Machete Visor


Taking it away is like taking away cigarettes.

I could always occupy 10 seconds of idle thought spinning my ship while figuring out what to do next.
Now i just see a background... it is a subtle, but important, psychological difference about keeping someone's attention on the game.


^^ This!


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