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Kewso
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:23:00 - [91]
 

nooo dont bring that shat back...


i want the door to the station unlocked!!!

and station games/renting shops/etc...

just to **** off station campers while they wait I'll be in station playing mini games and taking care of planets/trading/etc

SciWolf
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:26:00 - [92]
 

/signed

Want my old interface back!!!

DrakoWolf
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:26:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: DrakoWolf on 22/06/2011 20:26:11
Originally by: Commissar Kate

It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



/signed

My two cents on Incarna

I would have to agree in most of the above statements. I'm an eve player from day 1 launch in 2003 and prior during beta. This new expansion has brought out some interesting features for the community, even though it is in its early stages deploying this at this time I believe was the wrong decision for CCP.

Negative changes.

1- The over the shoulder view in CQ is horrible, yes you can change your camera view from the ESC menu. However the moving around the CQ feels very bulky, non smooth, characters movements are robotic, baby footsteps. I'm not sure if CCP remembers back in 2003 prior to their launch they where competing with EA's Earth and Beyond and just blew it out of the water, later EA closed down Earth and Beyond, one thing that destroyed the game was the waking in stations. This appears to be the direction CCP is heading if they dont make the necessary fixes required.

2- cpu utilization appears to be up the roof especially in CQ. (thankfully memory footprint appears to have remained within same ranges) more CPU optimization is needed especially for people with lower end systems. I notice the difference, i'm sure those with lower end systems then mine will notice it and may have issues with client able to run.

3- removing existing functionality which in previous statements you've stated that existing functionality would remain the same.
4- active ship view and double clicking on ship in middle of screen or right clicking it for ease of access to its ship hangers. Who says your character is always by the sofa near the ship panel or near the ship menu at the dock. Now having to click on the neocom to access the ship bay then to click again on a ship to access it. leaving extra unnecessary windows open.
5 - dock/un-docking time it takes to load into hanger or space is much longer.
6 - turret optimizations (missiles appear to be bugged and not showing their racks on the ship. Example Sacrilege appears to be shooting missiles from under it but no visual of missiles racks loaded on ship.)
7 - Noble exchange, as much as it is a good idea, this is not something i believe that should be implemented at this stage of the game. This is something that should of been implemented from the launch of the game to have the proper support of the community. Having the Aura system, and ISK and PLEX. adding all these different types of economy to the game is a bad way to go. Plex was fine as it was a time card and was directly involved with ISK a legal way of purchasing time using in game economy.
The noble exchange should of started right from the get go to be ISK value and be community made. If you intend it to be community in the future then you should of held off this system and get it ready to do so. Just like the changes to the planetary, let the npc's sell it at ISK then players make them using in game materials and sell them for ISK. Keep the 1 economy system. Keep it simple.
8-Have received a few issues with kernel mode driver running old or newer drivers from Nvidia, where screens will start flashing, did not have this prior to Incarna.

Good changes.
-turret optimizations, display effects.
change in design and coloring of Maller/Sacrilege, etc... another good change since the last re-model of the Scorpion. (need more of these types of changes)

-game itself appears to be running smoother out in space, I no longer have problems running 3 clients, full screen/fixed with all graphic options set to maximum and options that will use additional memory and max shadow/shader effects.


System Specs:
Win7 x64
Intel Core i7 960
Asus Sabertooth x58 Motherboard
24GB RAM Kingston HyperX
2 x Gigabyte GTX 560ti (sli disabled) 3 individual clients running on each screen.
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold 1000w PSU
3x 24" ASUS VW246H Displays.

Kevric
Talocan Scrap Metal and Recycling
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:28:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate
I still say a disembark capsule option on the neocom, like in the older incarna videos is still the best option to make the CQ optional and it does not hide it anything the ESC menu.


It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



+1 /signed

i love you for this suggestion kate!

Sieges
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:34:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: cuttlebug
Whilst enjoying to play eve, I find it now frustrating that when docked, and 'not' having the Captains Closet displayed all I am presented with is a blank view of a door. If whilst I am stood around outside I change ship, I have no idea which I have changed to, unless I go to fitting, or even undock. Give us back the view of the ship in the hanger, although it's been with us for years, and I know change is good, the view of a door is not the most sought after view. It also makes like difficult if you want to access parts of the ship such as corp hanger, mintenance bay, drone bay etc.

+1

/Signed

Please give us back out spinning ship option. I do not need to walk around. I think it is immersion breaking that I have to exit my ship EVERYTIME I dock just to drop off some items in a station. Why is my hair completely dry after floating around in a pod???

The CQ looks kind of cool, but does not add anything to the game that matters.

Urgg Boolean
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:03:00 - [96]
 

/agreed

I know this is just the first round, but CCP really missed the boat. The CQ is just another layer that invokes the OLD INTERFACE. I was expecting a holographic projection into the room whenever you click on one of the CQs screens. PI for example - you click it, it opens the OLD INTERFACE. Why not have it generate a holographic in-room projection with all PI functions selectable from there? That would have been coolness in abundance, but wait, it opens the OLD INTERFACE...

My biggest complaint is performance. I've been complaining for years about how terribly clunky the UI is, and seems to be a series of wait states. Now, it so laggy and slow that I hate logging on. I have a high end ATI card with 2G video RAM and it still performs like a dog even with low character quality. Get out the dog biscuits...

Bottom line for me = spectacular graphics that perform so badly I hate them, the tradeoff being eye-candy with no really new features = fail.

Boris Delacroix
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:11:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate

It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



+1

I like CQ and most of incarna (Except for aurum, but i am against every type of DLC), but i don't want to be forced to get out of my ship every time i dock. I would probably go sit on the couch to play the market and watch the tv, but to get out my ship to turn every mission become annoying.

Lamparski
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:11:00 - [98]
 

Bring back the old hanger and ship spinning CCP.

Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:12:00 - [99]
 

want hangar view back myself, unhappy with the new system, looks crap, camera is WAAAAY to close to the avatar, the shadows on the face are completely borked (which was there since the middle of febuary and still never fixed that crap) you cant run, the graphics on the ships on the balcony view is awfull, makes the ships worse then what we had before!! very low texture quality even at max settings! animation of the avatar is terrible, and only released 1 captains quaters??? wtf!!

yes bring the old style back untill you've actually finished CQ yeah? oh and one more thing, fix the damage mods/skills that involve the weapon systems!

Strrog
Caldari
Zero Excavations
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:13:00 - [100]
 

just in case i ./sign again

Mrs Azathoth
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:17:00 - [101]
 

Quote:
It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna


Absolutly agree. /signed

Beat Scheisen
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:17:00 - [102]
 

SIGNED

Daniela Darr
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:18:00 - [103]
 

I couldn't care less about your Hangar View. The static CQ picture is just as good.

Mystic5hadow
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:23:00 - [104]
 

I love Incarna. While at first I did not agree, I can see now why people would like to dock into the old Hangar view first, then click a button to leave your ship (as it was supposed to be originally. What the hell CCP?). This would obviously alleviate a lot of peoples problems with CQ.

I'm sure this would be simple to implement so I don't see why CCP won't do it if enough people ask for it.

Shadow Raptor
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:29:00 - [105]
 

Agree with all above, Eve has always been a game of freedom of choice. The fact that there has always generally been more then one way to control things means most ppl have been satisfied with the GUI. The hanger view has been refined over many yrs, it seems a shame to just toss it away so I hope CCP will reinstate it thus keeping many players happy whilst still having to option if they choose to to drop into the Incarna feature. There is some hope at least, look at PI, it was dog in its first incarnation, some might say it still is but at least it was revamped into something more usable. Here's hoping.

rootimus maximus
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:31:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate
I still say a disembark capsule option on the neocom, like in the older incarna videos is still the best option to make the CQ optional and it does not hide it anything the ESC menu.


It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



I couldn't agree with this more.

carr2
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:49:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Rei Nakasone
Edited by: Rei Nakasone on 22/06/2011 16:40:57
Originally by: Commissar Kate
It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna


+1
(I can't believe how much i miss ship spinning XD)


+1 me too :(

Frecator Dementa
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:51:00 - [108]
 

I want to be able to double-click the static background to open my cargohold !
I want to be albe to right-click the static background to perform actions on my ship

Eh, screw it. Does anyone want my stuff ?

Isil Rahsen
Gallente
Ferrum Superum
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:52:00 - [109]
 

+1 But it'll never happen, they need the enforced participation to make their use metrics look good.

Spookyjay
Caldari
Animosity.
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:53:00 - [110]
 

sign. and signed for my 3 alts that are inactive.

Celedraug
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:00:00 - [111]
 

signed - make turn off CQ permanent and make the option the old hanger.

Futar Csav0
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:01:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate
It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



This was promised! Why did you CCP went agains your promise?
I play this game for spaceships not for the avatars I don't give a **** about the CQ. (Even though it looks very nice I don't a **** about realy - You should focus on spaceship because you will start loseing costumers the way you are going)

Please make it optional as you PROMISED...


Nambr1
Minmatar
WEPRA CORP
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.06.23 05:22:00 - [113]
 

/sign

Akira Samposeppa
Gallente
Arthashastra
Posted - 2011.06.23 05:24:00 - [114]
 

Signed

Ellie Aroway
Disturbed Capsuleers
Posted - 2011.06.23 05:31:00 - [115]
 

CCP_Manifest's twitter

CCP_Fallout's Twitter

CCP Games' Twitter


Send endless tweets to them demanding for the old hangar back and a button added giving the option to enter CQ if we desire it... They may think they can get away with not reading the forums, but iPhone's etc tend to buzz every time u get a tweet hehe Twisted Evil

Eoghan Gorthaur
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.06.23 05:41:00 - [116]
 

Yes, plese, hanger view back.
After 3-4 years of watching it you dont get bored of watching your ships in it while doing other thing.

15 mins of CQ and computer overheating.... its more than enough to prefere a pictere of a wall instead.

Then please, for inmersion and for the health of ours computers...
Hanger back !!

Not that we dont love incarna, but make a difference between docking and leaving your ship.

Hanger, hanger, hanger !!

InvaderKaz
Posted - 2011.06.23 06:12:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Tichu Tilyon
Edited by: Tichu Tilyon on 22/06/2011 16:11:43
Originally by: Commissar Kate
It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



^ This

We want back the hangar view.
I realy don't care about the barbie online I just want to play a space ship game.


CQ it's single player anyways, WHY force it on the users who doesn't want barbie online?

When multiplayer of the Incarna is done people will have to go CQ -> Multiplayer zone anyways, and your minitransaction will florish only then. Even if I would like to play barbie online who the hack would pay that insane amount of money w/o beeing able to show it of to others.



This! , and signed with blood ^^

Brego Tralowski
Galactic Extensive Technologies
SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
Posted - 2011.06.23 07:03:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate
It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



This should be the way it is, not the current form. Do it now CCP - please.

Signed.

usrevenge
Posted - 2011.06.23 07:07:00 - [119]
 

unfortunately since i get 5fps in station with cq on i will be quiting unless they return the old view.
CQ adds nothing to gameplay, so it should be optional, i see no reason to upgrade simply to use cq so i will not.
no you cannot have my stuff, i vowed that if i quit eve i would acquire as much wealth then delete it all. or just save it in my wallet to help economy

Krelian Lann
Caldari
The Zohar Project
Posted - 2011.06.23 07:08:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Commissar Kate
I still say a disembark capsule option on the neocom, like in the older incarna videos is still the best option to make the CQ optional and it does not hide it anything the ESC menu.


It should be DOCK > HANGER VIEW > CLICK BUTTON ON NEOCOM (if you so desire to) > Captains Quarters/Incarna



+10000000

Signed


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