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Bill Loney
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:46:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: I Love Boobies
Dude, you missed the point totally. Many people with top of the line graphic cards are having extreme heating issues

Then they would need better cooling for there overclocked cards then or a better air flow. gtx 460 here o/c to 900/1800/4000 with no heat problems running multiple clients on 2 monitors while watching some hi def (3d disabled), a little stuttter now and then but only when refreshing.
I think the best way to have put it would be "The WIS uses a bit more resources than it should, or a possibility of a gfx memory leak!" (i havent checked any monitor programs since my temps are nice and cool) Wink

Mantrella
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:48:00 - [62]
 

to all the MORONS using LAPTOPS with INTEGRATED graphics: GET A REAL MACHINE TO PLAY EVE ON!! I run incarna just fine on my AMD quadcore running on a radeon 5770 in eyefinity across 3 22" lcds. no laptop with the exception of maybe a cgi workstation has an INTEGRATED gpu that is gonna handle incarna well. laptops in general with the exception of a few highend machines that cost an arm and 3 legs are not designed for playing games like eve. dont get hardware that cant handle this then complain when you cant use it when its your fault in the first place.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:50:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 14:50:12
Originally by: Mantrella
to all the MORONS using LAPTOPS with INTEGRATED graphics: GET A REAL MACHINE TO PLAY EVE ON!! I run incarna just fine on my AMD quadcore running on a radeon 5770 in eyefinity across 3 22" lcds. no laptop with the exception of maybe a cgi workstation has an INTEGRATED gpu that is gonna handle incarna well. laptops in general with the exception of a few highend machines that cost an arm and 3 legs are not designed for playing games like eve. dont get hardware that cant handle this then complain when you cant use it when its your fault in the first place.



ASUS G60VX has 4gb ram dual core and GTX260M, that is by far over the spec and runs Crysis 1 and 2 fine.

Broken incarna, affects CCP's bread and butter.




Kentren
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:50:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Mantrella
to all the MORONS using LAPTOPS with INTEGRATED graphics: GET A REAL MACHINE TO PLAY EVE ON!! I run incarna just fine on my AMD quadcore running on a radeon 5770 in eyefinity across 3 22" lcds. no laptop with the exception of maybe a cgi workstation has an INTEGRATED gpu that is gonna handle incarna well. laptops in general with the exception of a few highend machines that cost an arm and 3 legs are not designed for playing games like eve. dont get hardware that cant handle this then complain when you cant use it when its your fault in the first place.

**** you

Vrinidi Observer
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:50:00 - [65]
 

I'm a little confused at the massive, and I do mean truly frightening levels, of people who are having issues with the top of line of GPUs. I guess I am the sole person in EVE not experiencing problems. I picked up a crappy little 430 for about 70 bucks USD two weeks ago and I have zero problems with CQ (4gigs of ram, Athalon II cpu). Runs nice at 50ish FPS with almost maxed settings (no AA) and the little bit of clunk in the movements I'd attribute to poor movement code. Something is rotten in the state of internet spaceships.

Phazer
Amarr
Rexolution
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:53:00 - [66]
 

I do have a good enough computer to run incarna, but there's no way I want it to sound like a vacuum cleaner while staying docked for hours.

Mehta Mezhan
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:53:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Mantrella
to all the MORONS using LAPTOPS with INTEGRATED graphics: GET A REAL MACHINE TO PLAY EVE ON!!


You're an arrogant fool.

Congrats on your e-peen triple monitor setup, nobody cares (for Eve? really? lol)
Now try & realize that said laptops worked fine before this worthless, cosmetic-only update.

Those users now have a forced downgrade, since turning off the new station rubbish presents a static screen.
No ship, no nothing, just a worthless JPEG.

Aka, for people without 10 square feet of desk and piles of money to frivolously waste...
An ~800 MB download to get a WORSE user interface. Excellent.

Vycra
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:53:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 14:53:39
Originally by: Bill Loney
Originally by: I Love Boobies
Dude, you missed the point totally. Many people with top of the line graphic cards are having extreme heating issues

Then they would need better cooling for there overclocked cards then or a better air flow. gtx 460 here o/c to 900/1800/4000 with no heat problems running multiple clients on 2 monitors while watching some hi def (3d disabled), a little stuttter now and then but only when refreshing.
I think the best way to have put it would be "The WIS uses a bit more resources than it should, or a possibility of a gfx memory leak!" (i havent checked any monitor programs since my temps are nice and cool) Wink


This guy speaks the truth.

All these people complaining.. they are suffering from one of the following.

Lack of air flow/Dust
Poor quality PSU
Unrealistic Expectations (CQ is REALLY tough on your gpu, you might not think it is doing much but trust me there is a LOT of physx in there and is quite sophisticated)

Like i said in my last post;

Running the following

i7-950 @4.3Ghz
2x GTX 460's (OC'd by 20%!)

Running eve at 5280x1050 - 2x2 SSAA + 8xQ MSAA with max in game settings (hdr etc)

You know my temps in CQ? Both GPU's never go above 75 degrees celsius...

No problem here.

Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:56:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Wa'roun

You are aware you can access the video settings from the login?


I am, indeed. But if you have Yesterday's Working Card you can't get as far as the log in.

Mehta Mezhan
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:15:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Originally by: Wa'roun

You are aware you can access the video settings from the login?


I am, indeed. But if you have Yesterday's Working Card you can't get as far as the log in.


You sound like someone who's already tried everything, but...
Did you try "eve.exe (Safe Mode)" ?

dgastuffz
Caldari
Hell's Revenge
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:17:00 - [71]
 

2 x 5870 and a amd 1100T 250gb SSD in raid 1 and 25 fps with 2 accounts running thats poor useless patch

LawlSTi
The Imperial Fedaykin
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:20:00 - [72]
 

Edited by: LawlSTi on 22/06/2011 15:21:18
Confirming:

Single Nvidia GTX590
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64bit
Intel i7 860
1TB HDD

Eve on completely maxed out settings; No issues.

Zverofaust
Gallente
Ascetic Virtues
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:21:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 13:41:16

A GTX 260 4gb machine with DUAL CORE CPUs cannot play Incarna but it can play Crysis?

That's fine? That is borked up.




Funny I have around the same and it works fine with multiple clients open at max settings.

Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:21:00 - [74]
 

Sadly I have. A dialog box pops up entitled "Outdated graphics card detected" with the main message of the dialog box being "Shader Model 3 (SM3) support is needed to run this game. Click OK to close the game client."

This dialog pops up during the client loading process. The splash screen is there but that's it. There is no way that the client progresses as far as actually running to get the login screen.

Cheers
- Myfanwy

Raynohr
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:36:00 - [75]
 

op speaks atleast the truth.

as for myslef i got a medicore laptop that has a gforce 335m card and only prob i have in cq on max settings is that my fps is 18-20.


Mehta Mezhan
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:36:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Sadly I have. A dialog box pops up entitled "Outdated graphics card detected" with the main message of the dialog box being "Shader Model 3 (SM3) support is needed to run this game. Click OK to close the game client."


Oh. I thought the transition process for SM3 was already over.
My understanding is that now you hard-core absolutely-need SM3 to run at all.

I could be wrong.

slowill
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:37:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Wa'roun
old graphics card


I hate to tell you dude but your graphics card is really old. I just upgraded from 2 ati 4870's and they were two years old. You can get a 4870 now for about 100 bucks. Reccommend atleast upgrading to a vid card that has atleast 1gb of ram.

vlad0821 Artwik
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:50:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Mehta Mezhan
Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Originally by: Wa'roun

You are aware you can access the video settings from the login?


I am, indeed. But if you have Yesterday's Working Card you can't get as far as the log in.


You sound like someone who's already tried everything, but...
Did you try "eve.exe (Safe Mode)" ?


I tried it, it doesn't work. If you have an outdated card you cant open the game, even with safemode

Robinson1990
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:38:00 - [79]
 

Cant beleive im sayin this but im goin back to wow. Got a decent video card and it still f's up, maybe if they lose enough subscriptions theyll change it back. Wishful thinkn

Ronald Raygunn
Amarr
Inferi Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:41:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Runa Sigrun
Edited by: Runa Sigrun on 22/06/2011 13:28:45
This goes out to everyone whining about their video cards not being compatible with incarna. The fix is easy get a better video card! I am making $10 an hr working part time and it would take less then one pay check to buy a new video card like the GTX 560 (around $200), which will handle most games out their at max gfx now and well into the future. If your not working then get your fat nerdy ass out and find a job, or stop *****ing about your crap video card being unable to run incarna.

If you find your current card over hearing inable V-sync (vertical Sync) to cap the FPS at 60.

Now there isent that an easy fix?


Bite me. There, isn't that a succinct reply?

O Wren
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:43:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 13:41:16

A GTX 260 4gb machine with DUAL CORE CPUs cannot play Incarna but it can play Crysis?

That's fine? That is borked up.




I'm playing on a 2 year old laptop with 2gig dual core, 4gigs ram and a 4630 (something like that) 1gig dedicated video and sure, there was more heat and noise than before but I can still run it on med settings no prob. So waaa

TooNu
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:45:00 - [82]
 

White knight topic spotted.

OP: Live in the now.

Vawd
Caldari
Tax Evasion Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:46:00 - [83]
 

Edited by: Vawd on 22/06/2011 21:47:23
Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 22/06/2011 13:41:16

A GTX 260 4gb machine with DUAL CORE CPUs cannot play Incarna but it can play Crysis?

That's fine? That is borked up.




Then your machine is a piece of ****. My GTX 260 machine runs this just fine, on full settings no less.

Sassums
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 21:46:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Runa Sigrun
Edited by: Runa Sigrun on 22/06/2011 13:28:45
This goes out to everyone whining about their video cards not being compatible with incarna. The fix is easy get a better video card! I am making $10 an hr working part time and it would take less then one pay check to buy a new video card like the GTX 560 (around $200), which will handle most games out their at max gfx now and well into the future. If your not working then get your fat nerdy ass out and find a job, or stop *****ing about your crap video card being unable to run incarna.

If you find your current card over hearing inable V-sync (vertical Sync) to cap the FPS at 60.

Now there isent that an easy fix?


Please think before posting.

I have an Nvidia 560TI, 1 GB DDR5.

At maximum settings with Incarna in Captain's Quarters, I get between 15-30 FPS. If I turn the settings all the way down, I get 30FPS.

So please, do some research. Even the high end cards are struggling. Before Incarna I could get 200FPS, which I still see out of station.

Hallax
Without Borders Diversified
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:00:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Hallax on 22/06/2011 22:34:35
MMO's need broad appeal and broad accessibility to be viable. Pretty moot point, that.

OP is a douche and a failure if he's any older than 22-23 and/or not in school. Just calling it like it is.

I have enough money to buy a new machine, but I'd rather spend it on things that matter to me because hey, rl is fun.

I supported Incarna until I couldn't log in. It's just too much trouble. Cancelling the subs and coming back when I feel like putting up with it.

EDIT: got it to work, but quality of play is still a bit low.

Thomas Q
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:57:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Thomas Q on 23/06/2011 18:57:27
I have a intel Quad core, and a radeon 5870. Incarna costing me about 10 C degrees more on my card then incursion.. Especially in space, it's a very noticable difference. My guess is this will be fixed with patches, seems to me there is little reason for it to be so much heavier, other then not perfectly tuned code :)

Paladia Haberdash
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:13:00 - [87]
 

Well I agree with the OP, there are people out there with 5 year old PC's that can run this game fine. So why are yours over heating and such?
1)Is it because your too ****ing lazy to clean it out once in a while? Dust can make the heat, sinks less effective in cooling.
2)Or is it because you have to have e-pwn and over clock the **** out of your PC then ***** when it cant run games properly?

You people need to get a grip on reality and stop flaming this person because he speaks the truth.

drinking12many
Minmatar
Nine Inch Ninja Corp
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:23:00 - [88]
 

Edited by: drinking12many on 24/06/2011 14:25:58
Originally by: Mantrella
to all the MORONS using LAPTOPS with INTEGRATED graphics: GET A REAL MACHINE TO PLAY EVE ON!! I run incarna just fine on my AMD quadcore running on a radeon 5770 in eyefinity across 3 22" lcds. no laptop with the exception of maybe a cgi workstation has an INTEGRATED gpu that is gonna handle incarna well. laptops in general with the exception of a few highend machines that cost an arm and 3 legs are not designed for playing games like eve. dont get hardware that cant handle this then complain when you cant use it when its your fault in the first place.


Actually my laptop has an ati 4350HD and it runs one client just fine (heat wise) definitely a bit jerky compared to what it should be but I get some jerky slow frames even in space if I forget and leave AA on or something. It never did very well with more than one client so most of the time i don't even try..

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:28:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: I Love Boobies
Dude, you missed the point totally. Many people with top of the line graphic cards are having extreme heating issues, not just people with outdated cards. Even with vsync adjusted the way you proclaim it should be adjusted.

And besides, no one really cares about you working in a grocery store, or that you're going to school. And by the looks of things, you need to find a better school, or at least a better spelling teacher. Smile


And no one really cares about your opinion either. Yet here you are, spouting off ******ed 'facts' about computer use that you have no actual clue about.

Go away now.

Mr Epeen Cool

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.06.24 14:29:00 - [90]
 

Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 24/06/2011 14:34:23
Originally by: Runa Sigrun
Edited by: Runa Sigrun on 22/06/2011 13:28:45
This goes out to everyone whining about their video cards not being compatible with incarna. The fix is easy get a better video card! I am making $10 an hr working part time and it would take less then one pay check to buy a new video card like the GTX 560 (around $200), which will handle most games out their at max gfx now and well into the future. If your not working then get your fat nerdy ass out and find a job, or stop *****ing about your crap video card being unable to run incarna.

If you find your current card over hearing inable V-sync (vertical Sync) to cap the FPS at 60.

Now there isent that an easy fix?


I see you're missing the point. Rolling Eyes

I have a 18 month-old PC with 8GB RAM, a Core i5-750 for a CPU and an ATI HD5870 as my GPU. Yes it runs incarna as smooth as butter v-synced at 60 FPS, but in the meantime it is very busy cooking my motherboard. GPU temp hits ~70C after about 5 minutes of CQ and they keep climbing even as the drivers boost the cards Fan RPM.

It can take the heat for quite some time sure, but Crysis 1 running with everything set to Ultra and 24x FSAA generates less heat even during action-heavy combat situations than CQ does while essentially IDLE. Crysis 2, being the red-headed stepchild of it's predecessor generates even less heat.




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