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Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:40:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: James Hawkins
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: James Hawkins
Originally by: Alice Celadon
Yes, as chief recruitment officer for Pandemic Legion and all affiliates I made the call earlier today. Because our wallet is a bit heftier than most, we've taken extra measures --

We're using trade alts to passively monitor who's even just buying and selling the items in Jita. All such players and connected alts will also be permanently banned from joining.


who wants to join an alliance that receives isk from RMTing alliances anyways ?


fly safe


But it's been ages since PL did contract work for the NC


its funny tho how the biggest RMTing website is run by russians obviously ....Rolling Eyes


fly safe
shatteredcrystal is run by the russians??

Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:42:00 - [152]
 

Can't tell which way PL is trolling on this one, tbh.

Lucilla Giulia
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:44:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Kewso
speak for yourself.. I like captain's quarters...

game of spinning your ship while docked was f'ing stupid and didn't make sense.




Trolls need to be feeded i guess
if you like CQ so much, y your avatar doens't show it?

ApophisXP
Sadistic Retribution
Sadistic Empire
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:50:00 - [154]
 

As CEO If I do say so myself I too would like to ban all recruitment to people who buy this ****!

BAN THEM ALL!

Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:51:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Iloni Atoriandra
This is actually a buff to all old players who have tons of ISK laying around after years and years of accumulating wealth since now theres new stuff to waste it on so I celebrate it and await my tophat.


This thread is pretty funny concidering that a Pandemic Legion player is bragging about their new monocle in another thread :P

Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:56:00 - [156]
 

I like CQ. I think it will be complete one day, maybe this year still.
Wouldn't care if someone was wasting PLEX on a ****ing useless monocle, they are doing it with their money and they won't change my game.

But I DO CARE if CCP is going to WASTE dev time doing TONS of worthless **** to MT.
And I DO CARE if CCP is going to put gameplay changing stuff on MT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FECKTHIS****

+1

Mike Jaeger
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:12:00 - [157]
 

Here's my two cents (a real microtransaction). Many are upset that items like the monocle are priced at insanely high prices like $60 dollars; REAL eyewear could be purchased with that amount (albeit it'd be cheapo garbage). This was a bit of a shock.

Now you compound this surprise with revelations (real or not) from CCP Soundwave and the EVE rumor mill that you might be able to pay for a reskinned faction battleship? Last I heard, that plan was retracted, but the threat to the game's balance has been made clear. If items that contributed directly to gameplay were made available solely on the NX, such as ammo, ships, skills, whatever, this would disenfranchise all of the playerbase who are unwilling to part with their real money and are incapable of fronting the ISK for plex.

I don't have bilions of isk disposable for PLEX. So, RMT is my only option at the moment regarding the NX. If there EVER comes a time where new NX items demand that I fork over my own money to keep up with the competition, my enjoyment of the game will be seriously hampered, and I would probably quit.

However, the Noble Exchange, as it currently stands, is quite benign in my eyes. It's aptly named. There are players who have more isk than they can use. Being provided, and i stress this next phrase, purely aesthetic vanity items is a pretty cool feature. CCP makes some more money, and the wealthy EVE trillionaire gets to show off his new monocle. Is a 1.3 billion isk monocle useful? No. Will players revere those who can and do buy them? I know I won't. But if it gives the player purchasing the item any sense of gratification, then that's perfectly fine.

So what happens if the NX starts selling items? Be it through ISK or through real money, CCP's bottomline will grow because of NX's success. More items will become available on NX. More time will be spent working on NX. But, does this mean that a proportion of CCP's precious man-hours are going to be shifted away from fixing technical issues and working on gameplay? I hope not, and I see no proof that this will be the case. Chances are that the NX program involves the graphical designers, and maybe 1 or 2 programmers. So, chances are that team BFF and all the others who fix and improve gameplay will continue unaffected.

Make no mistake, I was really looking forward to Incarna - and I still am. I for one far prefer CQ over station
spin, but i wish they would leave station spin as another option. Having options is a good thing, even if it's an option to throw away money on frivolities.

TLDR; kick and scream so that NX only deals with aesthetics, and not gamechanging items. Claw and snarl if CCP neglects other aspects of the game in favor of the NX. Trying to kill NX off by grieifing those who use it won't be successful, nor should it. Focus on the other two issues, they're the real threat to the game. Not monocles.

James Moroci
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:18:00 - [158]
 

As recruiter i denie this. as a player can do whatever he feels like when it comes to aurum as its not a banable offense its ******ed to say this..

HeIIfire11
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:22:00 - [159]
 

@Alice...how about this one? Are you aware of this?

Iloni Atoriandra

kardjaval
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:26:00 - [160]
 

ok, but what about the ******edly rich players (isk rich) that buy the items as vanity, with isk, and could contribute untold wealth to a corperation, are you actually asking ceos not to accept such lofty prospects?

their vanity items, sorta like expensive jewelry,

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:38:00 - [161]
 

Aurum reduces the supply of PLEXs. The price of a PLEX goes up. This means that the RMT sellers have to sell more isk than what you can get for a PLEX.

Aurum makes RMT less profitable.



Amon Harakht
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:43:00 - [162]
 


Rail Gun
Caldari
The Cathedral of Flesh
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.23 15:59:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Alice Celadon
The concept is pretty simple. CCP prides itself on the strong and interesting communities EVE has created.

Want to fight back against the idiocy of cash shops, which are sapping developer time and focus from actual gameplay?

Ban recruitment of any player with current or past portraits which show that he/she has purchased real money items.

If only a few prominent CEOs sign onto this and get the word out, it could very well have a domino affect.


Monocle Overlords can't support this message. (ಠ_O)

Alarion Detheron
Caldari Navy Task Force 62
Rieos Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:15:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Mike Jaeger
Here's my two cents (a real microtransaction). Many are upset that items like the monocle are priced at insanely high prices like $60 dollars; REAL eyewear could be purchased with that amount (albeit it'd be cheapo garbage). This was a bit of a shock.

Now you compound this surprise with revelations (real or not) from CCP Soundwave and the EVE rumor mill that you might be able to pay for a reskinned faction battleship? Last I heard, that plan was retracted, but the threat to the game's balance has been made clear. If items that contributed directly to gameplay were made available solely on the NX, such as ammo, ships, skills, whatever, this would disenfranchise all of the playerbase who are unwilling to part with their real money and are incapable of fronting the ISK for plex.

I don't have bilions of isk disposable for PLEX. So, RMT is my only option at the moment regarding the NX. If there EVER comes a time where new NX items demand that I fork over my own money to keep up with the competition, my enjoyment of the game will be seriously hampered, and I would probably quit.

However, the Noble Exchange, as it currently stands, is quite benign in my eyes. It's aptly named. There are players who have more isk than they can use. Being provided, and i stress this next phrase, purely aesthetic vanity items is a pretty cool feature. CCP makes some more money, and the wealthy EVE trillionaire gets to show off his new monocle. Is a 1.3 billion isk monocle useful? No. Will players revere those who can and do buy them? I know I won't. But if it gives the player purchasing the item any sense of gratification, then that's perfectly fine.

So what happens if the NX starts selling items? Be it through ISK or through real money, CCP's bottomline will grow because of NX's success. More items will become available on NX. More time will be spent working on NX. But, does this mean that a proportion of CCP's precious man-hours are going to be shifted away from fixing technical issues and working on gameplay? I hope not, and I see no proof that this will be the case. Chances are that the NX program involves the graphical designers, and maybe 1 or 2 programmers. So, chances are that team BFF and all the others who fix and improve gameplay will continue unaffected.

Make no mistake, I was really looking forward to Incarna - and I still am. I for one far prefer CQ over station
spin, but i wish they would leave station spin as another option. Having options is a good thing, even if it's an option to throw away money on frivolities.

TLDR; kick and scream so that NX only deals with aesthetics, and not gamechanging items. Claw and snarl if CCP neglects other aspects of the game in favor of the NX. Trying to kill NX off by grieifing those who use it won't be successful, nor should it. Focus on the other two issues, they're the real threat to the game. Not monocles.


This.

Iloni Atoriandra
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:52:00 - [165]
 

Stop hating on my monocle peasant.

Theocrates
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:59:00 - [166]
 

Wow, you really have made a major play here. Yep, lots of future PvP'ers, wanna be corpers, desperately seeking alliance people won't buy aurum items. On that alt anyway. You realize that that matters not at all? The Nex is an anti-rmt tactic offering things the RMT people can't match and will surely be expanded. All you have managed to do force someone who wants to join to make a barbie alt specifically for dress up.

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:04:00 - [167]
 

Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 23/06/2011 18:05:41
I'll think about this. Not sure yet.

Draco4444
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:05:00 - [168]
 

I know I have no intentions to purchase any of that crap! If I wanted to play character dress up, I would play Barbi Online!
What a waste of a Patch and resources from CCP.


Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:07:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Theocrates
Wow, you really have made a major play here. Yep, lots of future PvP'ers, wanna be corpers, desperately seeking alliance people won't buy aurum items. On that alt anyway. You realize that that matters not at all? The Nex is an anti-rmt tactic offering things the RMT people can't match and will surely be expanded. All you have managed to do force someone who wants to join to make a barbie alt specifically for dress up.


In an alliance like PL, we use the full API to do more than most corps, so if you have an alt that you funnel money to, we can see it, and, to manage spies, we would need the api's of that alt as well or you'd be expelled (harsh i know, but what are you hiding and why?)

From the API I can see all of your assets, and the Aur items show up in your hangars like anything else.

You cannot hide your barbie alt from me, and either trying, or doing so will result in your expulsion.

To help with this we plan on giving out our API tech to most big space holding alliances right now so that they too can police the Aurum users.


We've kicked 5 people in the past 24 hours for buying it.

Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:10:00 - [170]
 

You guys are just bummed most of you can't dock to get one...

Velios
M. Corp
M. PIRE
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:11:00 - [171]
 

New members to M. Corp will be requested to arrive naked on their first day at work.

Theocrates
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:20:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Theocrates
Wow, you really have made a major play here. Yep, lots of future PvP'ers, wanna be corpers, desperately seeking alliance people won't buy aurum items. On that alt anyway. You realize that that matters not at all? The Nex is an anti-rmt tactic offering things the RMT people can't match and will surely be expanded. All you have managed to do force someone who wants to join to make a barbie alt specifically for dress up.


In an alliance like PL, we use the full API to do more than most corps, so if you have an alt that you funnel money to, we can see it, and, to manage spies, we would need the api's of that alt as well or you'd be expelled (harsh i know, but what are you hiding and why?)

From the API I can see all of your assets, and the Aur items show up in your hangars like anything else.

You cannot hide your barbie alt from me, and either trying, or doing so will result in your expulsion.

To help with this we plan on giving out our API tech to most big space holding alliances right now so that they too can police the Aurum users.


We've kicked 5 people in the past 24 hours for buying it.


I hope it works out for you guys and you have certainly drawn a line in the sand against CCPs direction and future goals. While this may in fact marginalize the standing of the large alliances and nullsec in general I hope that it will largely be seen as the continuing robust interaction CCP and its customers have always had. I would suggest you try and get major highsec support for this as well. That is from outside your stand sphere of influence corp wise. COurse that's likely just my paranoia talking.

Madcow
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:21:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Theocrates
Wow, you really have made a major play here. Yep, lots of future PvP'ers, wanna be corpers, desperately seeking alliance people won't buy aurum items. On that alt anyway. You realize that that matters not at all? The Nex is an anti-rmt tactic offering things the RMT people can't match and will surely be expanded. All you have managed to do force someone who wants to join to make a barbie alt specifically for dress up.


In an alliance like PL, we use the full API to do more than most corps, so if you have an alt that you funnel money to, we can see it, and, to manage spies, we would need the api's of that alt as well or you'd be expelled (harsh i know, but what are you hiding and why?)

From the API I can see all of your assets, and the Aur items show up in your hangars like anything else.

You cannot hide your barbie alt from me, and either trying, or doing so will result in your expulsion.

To help with this we plan on giving out our API tech to most big space holding alliances right now so that they too can police the Aurum users.


We've kicked 5 people in the past 24 hours for buying it.


Your probally just wining about that you dont have the money yourself while the other members do have so much left that they can buy it.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:25:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos
Originally by: Iloni Atoriandra
This is actually a buff to all old players who have tons of ISK laying around after years and years of accumulating wealth since now theres new stuff to waste it on so I celebrate it and await my tophat.


This thread is pretty funny considering that a Pandemic Legion player is bragging about RMT'ing in another thread :P

Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:37:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Madcow
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Theocrates
Wow, you really have made a major play here. Yep, lots of future PvP'ers, wanna be corpers, desperately seeking alliance people won't buy aurum items. On that alt anyway. You realize that that matters not at all? The Nex is an anti-rmt tactic offering things the RMT people can't match and will surely be expanded. All you have managed to do force someone who wants to join to make a barbie alt specifically for dress up.


In an alliance like PL, we use the full API to do more than most corps, so if you have an alt that you funnel money to, we can see it, and, to manage spies, we would need the api's of that alt as well or you'd be expelled (harsh i know, but what are you hiding and why?)

From the API I can see all of your assets, and the Aur items show up in your hangars like anything else.

You cannot hide your barbie alt from me, and either trying, or doing so will result in your expulsion.

To help with this we plan on giving out our API tech to most big space holding alliances right now so that they too can police the Aurum users.


We've kicked 5 people in the past 24 hours for buying it.


Your probally just wining about that you dont have the money yourself while the other members do have so much left that they can buy it.


I can't tell if you really believe that or if your just trying too hard, so instead of calling you stupid for believing something like that I'll go ahead and believe that your **** at trolling.

Reldor Silverheart
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:44:00 - [176]
 

Edited by: Reldor Silverheart on 23/06/2011 18:46:08
Sure you ban the use of Aurum and stuff, but let me ask this simple question, because this is what makes or breaks this as a matter of fact.

When it comes to RMT within PL and those alliances that sign on this, what is your stance on this, because banning the use of Aurum items is VERY hypocrytical if you don't ban the use of RMT and botting. So the question is simple, do you ban the use of RMT and botting or do you take a don't ask don't tell stance on it.

I am aware i am starting abit of a problem for myself here, but as i said. If you allow botting and RMT, Aurum is the least of your issues to sort out. Also, botting and RMT hurts the game more than this AURUM stuff ever will.

A last edit: if it is that you do allow RMT and botting, why should people follow your example?

Rhondas
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:47:00 - [177]
 


Sylphs
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:53:00 - [178]
 

Isn't there a Aurthingy wallet in game, or a tab in the acutal wallet ?
If yes then, just ask for a screenie to everyone then open fire at willLaughing

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.06.23 18:57:00 - [179]
 

So... if I scammed a pair of boots for 1/10th of the price I would be banned from recruitment as well?

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.06.23 19:11:00 - [180]
 

LAWL at the corps that think they can tell ppl how to play a game they pay for. And even better, the players in those corps follow these orders.

What a joke.


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