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Terrorform
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:08:00 - [151]
 

Exactly why do people hate Incarna so much?

1. Because it is once again another update that fails to deliver the balance changes that paying players have been asking for for months!
2. Because now some people can't even play EVE on their machnine without fear of a computer meltdown.
3. Because CCP has shown that they are more interested in making money than improving the gameplay (by far the most important feature of any computer game) on an already super cool game. - Ofc, one can argue that if they make more money they can push through features faster....
4. Because people always have so much faith and high expectations when a new patch comes out and most people are always disappointed with the actual changes.
5. Because hybrids are still crap. - Oh how long will CCP make us wait!!! How long!!

Evil or Very Mad

SerialTurd
APEX ARDENT COALITION
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:13:00 - [152]
 

Edited by: SerialTurd on 22/06/2011 12:13:48
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Because they are too cheap to upgrade their ancient gaming rigs.


intel i7 2600k
GTX 580
8gb ram
120gb ssd intel 510 drive

CQ..... turned off. Why do I need to see my character walking around a tiny room? No thx. I play eve for space ships and blowing crap up which CQ does nothing for me in that regard.

ur argument is invalid. kthxbai

diaufop
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:27:00 - [153]
 

Edited by: diaufop on 22/06/2011 12:30:51
Edited by: diaufop on 22/06/2011 12:29:00
Originally by: Blane Xero
Eve online is spaceships. The gameplay, for 90% of the time, is in space. CCP is focusing entirely on the only non-space part of a space game, inconveniencing all the people who would rather spend as little time not in space as possible.

We were promised this would be optional in 2007-2008. We were promised that users opting out would notice no difference from before it was implemented.

Then, when the vocal (and rightly so) majority said "Have fun developing something we never plan to use" CCP essentially went "Okay then, it's no longer optional".


Exactly this.

Internet Spaceships=Awesome and pretty much unique as far as MMOs go.

3D Avatars walking around = thousands of other MMOs. Most of which have better fps, some have nicer gfx, all have better control systems. Even if/when CCP adds more content and actual gameplay to Incarna, it'll still be brought down by the 80's style (lack of) control of your character and the ****ty performance.

Are there some people that actually want all this Incarna stuff? I'm sure there are. If CCP had simply made the default docking into hanger with a button to disembark into the CQ, you wouldn't see a tenth of the complaints on the forum.

Between the mandatory nature of CQ, the terrible coding that creates such poor performance, and the apparent Dev time focus on WIS instead of internet spaceships, Eve players are well justified in complaining about this patch.

People aren't even complaining that much about the microtransactions, other than the hilarious prices.

Slav Girl Omaristos
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:31:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: diaufop
If CCP had simply made the default docking into hanger with a button to disembark into the CQ, you wouldn't see a tenth of the complaints on the forum.



This ^^^^

Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness.
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:33:00 - [155]
 

Let me see:


1- because its useless

2- because its useless and UGLY, with crap lighting

3- Because its useless and runs SLOWER than crysis 2 on same hardware

4- Because its useless and mandatory

5- Because its useless and has REMOVED some very important usability features (liek drag and drop the ship to change it)


6- Because its useless and shows that CCP thinks we are idiots with that Aurum clothes that cost more than real life stuff.

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:00:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 09:01:05
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 08:59:53
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 08:59:18
Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Incarna is what BROUGHT me to Eve and if CCP continues to do what they say they will do, Eve may just replace World of Warcraft for me.

The thing that really bothers people is that Eve is a huge project. It takes a lot of time and money to create it. A lot of people have been helping the construction of Eve as we play it as its built. CCP appears to be envious of the money Blizzard makes and they are willing to destroy what they have created and throw the people who helped them get this far under a buss to attract players like you, who have raged and made articles trying to make people who play Eve look like we need to be locked up because they (you?) didn't understand the nature of Eve and would never have helped CCP make it this far.

That what I think at least.


Wait...what? From what I can tell it is players like you that discourage new players from even trying EVE because of your whiney p.i.s.s-poor, holier-than-thou, I'm a vet and new players have to kiss my ass because I have spent time in this game longer than you. Well guess what "little miss peaches and cream, and I'm a vet, and I earned my right to diss new players", you do not have the right to do squat - especially slam a new player that is for the first time coming to play this great MMORPG.

If you have an issue, take it up with CCP, but do not slam a new player for expressing their opinion of the game even if it is not one you agree with. You are not EVE...we are a community made up of many players and it takes more than you, or just me, to make the game what it is. This new player is just one of many that I am sure will find EVE more to their liking now that there appears to be a glimmer of hope that this game will actually be more than a game of spreadsheets.

So go crawl back into whatever basement you crawled out of shut your proverbial pie-hole, because it is players like you that give this game a bad reputation.



Dev alt spotted.

Why don't you just shut the f**k up, you condescending corporate w***e--we pay your f***ing salary, the least you could do in exchange is stop insulting our intelligence.

You would be just another socially ******ed basement-dweller dragging their ass off to their despised, hopeless, dead-end help-desk job if not for us, who made your company--Credibility Completely P155ed-away?--what it is.

Don't bite the hand that feeds, honey, that rarely ends well...

Farali
Cobalt Dragon Exploration Company
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:01:00 - [157]
 

TL;DR Incarna has some minor issues, but people really aren't fully understanding the circumstances under which the expansion is released.

I have to agree with people on the fact that currently the clothing shop seems gravely overpriced and that people should probably be still allowed the option of using the old station view.

That's where my agreeance ends though. Walking in stations, I believe to be a welcomed addition. Something which will only improve.

The performance doesn't seem to be all that bad. People complaining about it must have some issues with their machines or are running much older systems. I have a current laptop which only cost me around 800 dollars and I run Incarna on max settings with no lag. Although I understand people are going to have money issues and buying a new system is not something to be done unless you're truly poor I find it hard to believe that you can make at least some minor adjustments to your system or pick up hand-me-down hardware.

The time for this to be released has been quite a bit, but I think people don't understand what they've actually been doing. Although there aren't many apparent improvements CCP has been developing entire new systems to handle the upcoming expansions. After this and perhaps the next I believe will be seeing larger content updates. Of course it should also be remembered that recently CCP has changed its development cycles. We get content every 6 months opposed to a year.

There are gameplay elements to this expansion as well. They just aren't entirely apparent to vets. Aurora is back, we have an updated Tutorial, missions were shuffled around, etc. If you PvP you haven't seen anything new, obviously, but by appealing to the experience of newer players the games ranks might bolster in due course.

Incarna also doesn't truly interfere all that much with current gameplay. Sure when you dock you might have to wait a bit longer if you have CQ turned on, sure the interface might feel a bit unnatural, but I believe these things will pass. New interfaces always feel strange, after walking around for a little bit in station I found that the controls can be enjoyable - you just have to learn them. Functionality with the interface isn't all that removed. You can still access any of your hanger options from the icon menu on the left.

I'thari
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:09:00 - [158]
 

Edited by: I''thari on 22/06/2011 13:11:39
1. Instead CCP could have redone spacehisp models, make visible missile bays, better explosions, actual shiend animation when it hit by somehitng? Countless other things come to mind that's not "ooohhhh, shinyyy" (which is CCP favorite lately), but listing that stuff can take literally forever.

2. It's not optional, and it nerfs good old ship spinning.

3. misrotransactions (really? in p2p game? as if they don't get enough money from PLEXes)... and store pricing. 1b isk monocles, yeah, sure...

4. yes, it does ruin lore (no snae capsuleer would exit POD just to load ammo to a ship) and gameplay (doubleclick -> open cargo for one)...

5. lack of understanding that what this game needs after 8 years of constant expansions (which are full of unfinished crap lately) is fixing, not shiny stuff. "Shiny" might work until you log in and see that it's basicly utter crap in terms of gameplay, won't do much more. And supply of "ohhh, snihyy" people tend to run out. Hell, it still has font from times when 1024x768 was standard resolution (and not even lowest "supported"). Guess CCP wants average customer to have 1 month subscription, not 6.

6. CCP and their money grab ideas in general
Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
You are charging people who work for free to make your game better you asshats
out of context, but still

7. another not finised expansion CCP promice to make work right later... oh, and they seemingly released this small chunk (of original chunk they were planing) because it worked "flawless", thus bringing less bugs in game. Oh well, at least they finished main part of expansion - THE ITEM SHOP!

8. while it supposed to be for immersion stuff, it breaks what little of it was before (on a side note: MMOs are generaly about epeen, not immersion... like it or not) because of some stuptid desing descisions (which, as usual, was pointed out in feedback CCP so "cares" about)...

think I've had enough of typing for now...

Bullyboutya
Minmatar
Taxxon Industrial Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:09:00 - [159]
 

LOL some of these comments are real funny. I love CQ and I see the bigger picture which is Dust514 and the Planets. Folks are forgetting that we will need to communicate wit the Dust Bunnies on the PS3 I see CQ being perfect for that.

I see where they are going with CQ and I'm impressed I know this is just one of the many changes that's coming in preparation for Dust514 I'm excited I'm newb BTW and loving EVE.

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:15:00 - [160]
 

People hate Incarna because it's living testament to the fact that CCP has got a new girlfriend and we are now considered sloppy seconds.

EVE is now a live test server for World of Darkness and a 'unique selling point' for DUST.

How about we get an update where you dont break everything

How about we actually update more than one ship skin per expansion cycle (****, do them all now)

The only thing i really like recently is the work by the DEVS doing need for speed stuff.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:23:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Bullyboutya
Folks are forgetting that we will need to communicate wit the Dust Bunnies on the PS3 I see CQ being perfect for that.
Yeah, they've pretty much said that we won't see that. Not only because the CQ is kind of private, but also because, once Incarna is actually released, the capsuleer elite won't sink so low as to associate with filthy dust bunnies in public (and because that kind of Dust/EVE crossover between two completely different engines would be… troublesome).

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:28:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Fredfredbug4
I'm just curious. It seems rather blind to me. What's the logic behind all of this?

Does it ruin EVE gameplay? Nope, all Incarna is right now is just standing in a room. How does this ruin gameplay?


I can't play the game on my laptop anymore, which isn't a bad machine at all. Thankfully I have a desktop that can play eve, but now I need to drop over a grand on a new laptop in order to play eve outside my apartment.


Originally by: Fredfredbug4

Does it ruin EVE lore? Nope, although it is rather unrealistic how pod pilots can get in and out of their pods without any downtime, they still get in and out of their pods, not as much as Incarna makes it look like but alas they still do. There are even larger plotholes. Such as the lack of a ship crew or the fact people can fly Caldari ships in the Gallente navy.



Yeah it does break lore a little bit. Not forcing us to load station environment and doing it like the old demo would mean that people like those on my laptop could still play eve online since shader model 3 wouldn't be a NEED.

Originally by: Fredfredbug4

Does it make EVE less available to people? In a way, yes. Although the toll on graphics really isn't that bad. I'm running a old 2006 computer, not designed for gaming, with no hardware upgrades and I run Incarna just fine. So no ****, of course your 2004 dinosaur isn't going to work well. But what about people with internet restrictions? Well frankly that is not CCPs fault. Blame your ISP.



Got my laptop around 2007. So yeah this restricts a healthy number of players from eve. Anyone who hasn't dumped the cash into a new machine in the past two years or didn't put over a grand USD into a machine is out of eve now. And let's not forget the people with AMD processors that are burning out.


Originally by: Fredfredbug4

Could someone please explain the logic in the most unbiased way possible. All the people against Incarna look like to me are just grizzled vets who don't want the game to change in any way.


I like what I'm seeing with Incarna. I really do. The cleaned up character creator that doesn't take a month to load is nice. I'm enjoying tinkering with my characters looks and making them not look awful anymore.

Walking in stations is still sorta cumbersome and slow, in the end I'm not going to bother with it.

It's VERY frustrating to not even be able to log in to change a skill on my laptop. Just adding an Eve-gate function or something to add a skill to the queue would make me happy. But some times, I'm away for a weekend, and I want to log on, run a mission real fast in high sec and be done with it. Now, I can't.

So CCP has diminished my experience with Eve Online in quantity already by axing my laptop from the usable systems.

Quality really hasn't gone up. Ty CCP for fixing the UI for colorblind people by the way, it's brighter and really pops now. Aurum and PLEX... hrm... idk about the $80 Monocle... I'd rather rent Scuba gear for a weekend lol.

In the end, Incarna took away more than it gave. It took players from the game, and hardware from many players. It gave us pretty dress up dolls, and a new interface for the old system.

Sure it's pretty, but those of us without large pools of disposable income to hurl at a new computer are simply looking at letting their accounts lapse and evaluating if getting a new computer is worth the expense just to play one MMO which frankly has started to become less and less interesting with every expansion.

I'm trimming down the amount of accounts I use now, I don't need the 5th one any longer. I don't want to buy a new laptop out of the fear that in 2-3 years CCP will do this all over again and I'll be out another grand.

I mean... now I'm forced with the choice 'Buy a new laptop' or 'Go to fanfest'. And now, no matter my choice, I can't play eve in Iceland... thanks CCP.

I <3 Incarna... like I <3 Cancer.

Bischopt
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:30:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Fredfredbug4
I'm just curious. It seems rather blind to me. What's the logic behind all of this?


AUR and microtransactions. Eve is now just another game where you pay money to get useless things for your little sim. This isnt eve anymore.
This horrible, horrible patch changed the nature of eve for the worse and it's making people like me think it's time to quit before eve loses the rest of its charm.

Kithrus
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:31:00 - [164]
 

You all sounds like WoW brats whining over change that really doesn't effect how you play the game.

So they threw the RP'ers a bone. They said as much in blogs and the tourney or did you have your ears and eyes shut?
Frankly I'm looking forward to corp meetings in an office on station.
To slaves in my quarters
To buying things on a market in an open setting where I see other people in my system buying things too.

Its called Immersion, turn it off if you do not like.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:32:00 - [165]
 

I don't hate it, I just don't want it every time I dock.

Ghurthe
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:33:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Kithrus
You all sounds like WoW brats whining over change that really doesn't effect how you play the game.

So they threw the RP'ers a bone. They said as much in blogs and the tourney or did you have your ears and eyes shut?
Frankly I'm looking forward to corp meetings in an office on station.
To slaves in my quarters
To buying things on a market in an open setting where I see other people in my system buying things too.

Its called Immersion, turn it off if you do not like.


Trouble is that a healthy number of players can't even log in anymore because of it. That and they want to make disabling it temporary... which is bull.

Bullyboutya
Minmatar
Taxxon Industrial Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:35:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Bullyboutya
Folks are forgetting that we will need to communicate wit the Dust Bunnies on the PS3 I see CQ being perfect for that.
Yeah, they've pretty much said that we won't see that. Not only because the CQ is kind of private, but also because, once Incarna is actually released, the capsuleer elite won't sink so low as to associate with filthy dust bunnies in public (and because that kind of Dust/EVE crossover between two completely different engines would be… troublesome).


I love ISK and I'm so not elite lol. So I will mingle with the Dust Bunnies :)again I don't see or get all the rage and I was still able to do my newb stuff like before. I like it's moving forward I'm all for innovation.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:38:00 - [168]
 

Confirming that Crysis 2 gets better FPS compared to the EVE CQ environment at maxed-out graphics settings for both.

Welcome to some time ago - what to do so CQ isn't universally hated.
CQ is sort of nice, I guess. But lack of options, mandatory nature = INSTAHATE
You guys never listen early enough nor make noise strong enough when it matters.
Guess what, even the "(do not) load station environment" is supposed to be TEMPORARY only.
Twisted Evil

Quick recap, in case CCP insists on keeping CQ the default environment :
* MANDATORY - separate the CQ from the non-CQ graphics detail settings into two completely separate groups which you can set differently
* MANDATORY - keep the ESC menu option to not load any environment at all
* STRONGLY PREFERRED - add some even lower graphics detail levels for CQ
* OPTIONAL BUT HIGHLY DESIRABLE - do not delete the current hangar environments AND make them an alternative (default disabled) via the ESC menu

Maeve Trinity
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:03:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: Maeve Trinity on 22/06/2011 14:37:35
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I don't hate incarna, long load times to stand in a box doesn't really add anything after looking around a few times. What Incarna was for most people is to be able to interact with other players, which we won't get this summer. So I wonder what's the added value?

In some spots your character still looks horrible beyond belief. They optimized some stuff to make it load faster but sometimes it realy looks so bad it makes me cry.

And oh, selling skirts for the price of a Tengu does kill immersion though. It decreases realism (as far as we had that).

3/10


I echo this sentiment.

From the start we were told that "Walking In Stations".. which was later given the name "Incarna".. would be just that... "Walking in Stations". I was one of the few very much looking forward to it, after YEARS (i.e. 2008) of have it dangled in front of us.

Walking in a room, by yourself, is a far cry from what we were originally promised in this expansion. When they originally announced Captains Quarters, I assumed it would be a teaser to Incarna.... not the whole dang expansion.

The exorbanant prices for vanity items is a whole other subject all together.

I will say however, I am not raging, I still love the game. I am just extremely dissapointed and let down.

Maeve Kelly
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:11:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: Lyrrashae
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 09:01:05
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 08:59:53
Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 22/06/2011 08:59:18
Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Incarna is what BROUGHT me to Eve and if CCP continues to do what they say they will do, Eve may just replace World of Warcraft for me.

The thing that really bothers people is that Eve is a huge project. It takes a lot of time and money to create it. A lot of people have been helping the construction of Eve as we play it as its built. CCP appears to be envious of the money Blizzard makes and they are willing to destroy what they have created and throw the people who helped them get this far under a buss to attract players like you, who have raged and made articles trying to make people who play Eve look like we need to be locked up because they (you?) didn't understand the nature of Eve and would never have helped CCP make it this far.

That what I think at least.


Wait...what? From what I can tell it is players like you that discourage new players from even trying EVE because of your whiney p.i.s.s-poor, holier-than-thou, I'm a vet and new players have to kiss my ass because I have spent time in this game longer than you. Well guess what "little miss peaches and cream, and I'm a vet, and I earned my right to diss new players", you do not have the right to do squat - especially slam a new player that is for the first time coming to play this great MMORPG.

If you have an issue, take it up with CCP, but do not slam a new player for expressing their opinion of the game even if it is not one you agree with. You are not EVE...we are a community made up of many players and it takes more than you, or just me, to make the game what it is. This new player is just one of many that I am sure will find EVE more to their liking now that there appears to be a glimmer of hope that this game will actually be more than a game of spreadsheets.

So go crawl back into whatever basement you crawled out of shut your proverbial pie-hole, because it is players like you that give this game a bad reputation.



Dev alt spotted.

Why don't you just shut the f**k up, you condescending corporate w***e--we pay your f***ing salary, the least you could do in exchange is stop insulting our intelligence.

You would be just another socially ******ed basement-dweller dragging their ass off to their despised, hopeless, dead-end help-desk job if not for us, who made your company--Credibility Completely P155ed-away?--what it is.

Don't bite the hand that feeds, honey, that rarely ends well...


This is SO funny considering this person ISN'T a developer...they are just a gamer....LOL! Some of you people think that you are just SO smart.....

Hartzenen
Amarr
Excellence.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:15:00 - [171]
 

Nobody from devs ever listens to this forum, nor post here anything.
They knew this would happen, they knew that this player rage will stop at some point, we'll eat it and get used to it.
It's not like we will leave the game, or not pay for it - they know this and do whatever they want.
Nobody cares.

And it's sad - i liked eve dev team for caring about our opinion, but now only thing they care about is money.

Geralden
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:16:00 - [172]
 

There just isnt any justification of the development of a space barbie sim's in space simulator, instead of fixing the horribly broken core gameplay, that has been ignored for so long.

What we have recieved during the last patches is broken, bugfilled fluff, that add's no content whatsoever.

Im so glad my sub ends in 3 days, good luck wrestling with the most thickheaded DEV's i have ever come across in my 25 years of gaming.

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:44:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
stuff

Your whole assesment breaks down in the face of reality.

Because in reality, when you branch out to open up new alleys you really need to step your game up and do it right. You can'T go "Hey we're now going to build the Batmobile!!" and then forget to bring the damn wheels.

Doing it right involves:
- not alienating your core playerbase
- not implementing stuff that's not finished
- not taking away stuff that has proven to be useful, stable and appreciated
- implementing gameplay, not placeholders
- realising that in games having choice is always better, especially when you need to cater to an MMO audience which has proven to be not very enthusiastic when it comes to hardware requirements.

What brings more people to this game, or any game for that matter is decent gameplay. Incarna is lacking decent gameplay.

I could care less about what the future might bring, because if there's one thing the eight+ years I've been around here have teached me... then that would be the fact that CCP totally suck when it comes to following up on, improving and iterating on what they've implemented. Prime example: Sound engine. It sucks ass ever since it was "updated". Nothing has been done to fix it, ever.



This.

Ohmif***ingGod, THIS!!!!

(They dumbed down the sound of the medium-sized auto-cannons--the Dual 180 Tech IIs were some of the best-sounding guns in the game--like a giant AK-47 on full auto, mixed with a jackhammer pounding into steel, overlaid with just a soupcon of speed-drill--and what we have now is that lame, wimpy, tinny sound that all the T I guns had.../Me cries--Stop genericising and lame-ifying my game, for Gods' sake! The sound-engine's been bo11ocked-up since Apocrypha, and nothing--absolutley f**king NOTHING--has ever been done to fix it!)

Oh, and Maeve, you forget one critical point, which shows just how little you really understand about EVE:

Every PLEX--EVERY SINGLE ONE*--that now exists in this game was created from real money, as all future PLEX' probably will be. You, or I, or Bob-the-Ebbil-Scawwy-Piwwate can buy a PLEX, right now with ISK we've made, and inasmuch that we are not paying real money for it at this time, then for us, it is "free."

But:

Somewhere, someone, almost certainly, did indeed pay real money for the GTC that generated it. Also, what about the time used to make the ISK needed to buy it? If that PLEX really is "free," then would not your/my/everyone else who uses PLEX's time be value-less? By definition? Also, we had to pay for the game-time one way or the other--RL money, or time to make in-game money for PLEX--to be able to grind that ISK in the first place.

The only thing in life that is truly free is death.

Critical Thinking/Objective Analysis (Standard) certificate, please--train it.

*Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.06.22 14:49:00 - [174]
 

Edited by: Lyrrashae on 22/06/2011 14:51:40
Quote:
This is SO funny considering this person ISN'T a developer...they are just a gamer....LOL! Some of you people think that you are just SO smart.....


Oh Gods Above and Below, will you gimme a f***ing break!!!!! SurprisedShockedRolling Eyes

It is so bloody obvious!


Maeve Trinity
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:16:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Lyrrashae

Oh, and Maeve, you forget one critical point, which shows just how little you really understand about EVE:


Starting to wish I was the only Maeve in this thread X(

Raynohr
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:19:00 - [176]
 

reason to why ppl hate is that its the first step on making this game into "world of eve"

Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:21:00 - [177]
 

Huge anticlimax.

Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:29:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Maeve Kelly
This is SO funny considering this person ISN'T a developer...they are just a gamer....LOL! Some of you people think that you are just SO smart.....


Have any of you written 1000 lines of code, made textures and skinned them on to meshes? I can understand that this new expansion is almost a whole new game.

Braeda Darro
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:30:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Maeve Trinity
Originally by: Lyrrashae

Oh, and Maeve, you forget one critical point, which shows just how little you really understand about EVE:


Starting to wish I was the only Maeve in this thread X(


As I have already said, I AM new to Eve. And what I thought looked like could be a REALLY fun game is already being ruined by the "elitist" vets. I am not allowed to express any initial opinion about what I have seen my first few days or even learn about the game without being insulted and attacked. Way to go on welcoming new gamers....great job! Rolling Eyes

Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:33:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Braeda Darro
Originally by: Maeve Trinity
As I have already said, I AM new to Eve. And what I thought looked like could be a REALLY fun game is already being ruined by the "elitist" vets. I am not allowed to express any initial opinion about what I have seen my first few days or even learn about the game without being insulted and attacked. Way to go on welcoming new gamers....great job! Rolling Eyes


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