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Tu Ko
Predator's Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:18:00 - [91]
 

Nvidia Geforce 8500Gt
2.6 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000+
3 gigs of ram
Windows 7
1440x900


I was stuck at 5 FPS, until I turned down the Shader quality.
After that it stayed at 15 FPS. Irregardless of any other settings.
Controling the avatar was god awful.
If I clicked somewhere in the floor the character would walk somewhere
close by but then path back and forth like he had lost the marker.

Laptop Acer Aspire 5515 ATI Radion x1200, could not run the game
at all. Shader 3 apparently, which irks me a bit as the laptop is only a couple
of years old.

Rykuss
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:21:00 - [92]
 

Running four clients things get choppy, disabling CQ fixed that. That's the only reason I have for disabling it. I was running it fine on sisi and I'm running it fine on TQ. No heating issues, my tower is running cooler than ever actually. I'm not saying I'm running bug-free but I'm not experiencing the horrors others are reporting.


DickbeardThePirate
Gallente
LODSOFEMONE
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:26:00 - [93]
 

I usually get 30-40, sometimes it will randomly tank and drop down to around 20 which is annoying as hell.

q9400 cpu
4gb ram
GTX 470

Syn Fatelyng
Dathmora
Redanni
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:30:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: Syn Fatelyng on 22/06/2011 11:30:39
Originally by: Pirat0r
My problem is, however, that my southbridge on my motherboard overheats and I've got no way of cooling it down. Where I was able to play Eve Online for hours at a time before Incarna, I'm now only able to play for about 10 minutes on dual screens.
This seems to be quite common, for the group of people who are having technical issues with CQ.

Attention people with heat issues

I want to note that what CQ is doing right now is no different than playing any other high-quality 3d game. Because they are now making full use of your CPU and GPU, you're beginning to see the weak points in your computer. Much like filling a barrel full of water and noticing a leak. Don't blame the water; find a way to patch up the leak.

In this case, how often do you clean your CPU and GPU and is it possible to have more fine-tuned control over the fanspeed for both? Also, proper airflow through the entire case will reduce temperatures on your southbridge, and any other components (cpu, gpu, drives, pci cards). Might want to see how obstructed your fans are from messy cabling on the inside.

Cold Flare
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:31:00 - [95]
 

intel 2160 x2 1.8 fail
2 gb ddr2 fail
gts 250 fail
win 7
1920x1080p
20-25 fps station
100+ anywhere else.

Jonak
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:42:00 - [96]
 

Eve runs on my 3 PCs at home, 1 better then the other 2 so I have to check the settings. But Eve will no longer on my laptop which is what I'm on now.

Intel Dual Core T2260 1.73GHz
RAM: 2GB
Win 7 32 bit
Video: Inter 945 Express Chipset

When I try to open the client I get a black screen. When I close it I see a message that my video card can't run the new shader and is outdated.

There was a time when I could run 4 clients on it with no problems. Then things changed and the client seemed to become more resource heavy and I started having more crashes and had to run the clients on the lowest settings. Then this new expansion made things worse. Clients constantly crashing and I could only run 2 clients with minimal problems. Now I can' run the client at all because my card can't use the shaders. This thing is years old now anyway. I guess it's about time for a new laptop anyway.

Roh Voleto
Posted - 2011.06.22 11:53:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: Roh Voleto on 22/06/2011 12:05:26
Athlon II x4 620
4 GB DDR-2 800
Geforce 9800gt

Running windowed at 1680x1050 with all setting on "High", except for post processing (off) and anti-aliasing (low).

Frame rates are around 30 fps, which I consider acceptable for a non action game. System load is normal for a modern 3d game. It is rather high compared to what Eve used to cause, but still not enough make my cooling system run at audible levels.

I am still not using it, light and camera are still atrocious, I still want the old hangar as an option, my breast still look like rubber balls, and my ship is still following me when I leave the balcony. Sad

I do have a nice behind, though. Wink

Edit: Forgot the resolution.

Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 12:56:00 - [98]
 

Edited by: Norian Lonark on 22/06/2011 12:59:12
Edited by: Norian Lonark on 22/06/2011 12:58:29
Intel i7 @ 4ghz
2 x Nvidia 460 in SLI
6GB RAM
Windows 7


Everything runs fine with FPS 60 in space and doesn't drop below 39 in station in station @ 1900 x 1200 (think thats the res at work now).

The only thing is when in CQ temps rise on CPU from 50 - 67degrees and temps on GPU's used to be at 50 now 65 with Fan speed increasing from 40-50% to nearly 80%..

The noise is the only downside for me when playing Crysis or something I don't mind as the noise is masked by sound but when playing EVE I really notice it. I am not complaining though the game looks fantastic and I can always upgrade to a 580 when I got some cash I think these are supposed to run quieter than the 460's at load.




Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:22:00 - [99]
 

50 FPS
44% Cpu Load
85% Memory Load

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.4GHz
GPU: ATI 6870 w/ 1G of RAM
RAM: 8G
Settings: 1920x1080, max settings, 6 other clients running with disabled station environment

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:24:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: enterprisePSI on 22/06/2011 13:27:34
Edited by: enterprisePSI on 22/06/2011 13:26:52
Average 60 fps, 1920x1080 everything high on this computer.

However, i play eve mostly from work computer. Which is old, and as of today stopped playing eve. So basically no more eve for me. Neutral

Any idea how to bypass the SM 3.0 restriction?

Harcosi
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:36:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: enterprisePSI
Any idea how to bypass the SM 3.0 restriction?


Most computer shops have this card that you can slot into your computer which will allow you to bypass the restriction.

Utsukushii Hana
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:38:00 - [102]
 

Ubuntu 10.04 running Gametree Linux v.2010121
Intel i5-2500k w/ stock fan
8g ram
EVGA 9600gt 512mb ram on nvidia linux driver 195.36.24
running two clients with all graphics on medium or low (only low if there is no medium)
and both in space around 30-45 fps (in space)


enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:05:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: enterprisePSI
Any idea how to bypass the SM 3.0 restriction?


Most computer shops have this card that you can slot into your computer which will allow you to bypass the restriction.


Most companies, do not allow change of hardware on their computers.

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:09:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Shintai on 22/06/2011 15:24:28
Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder
E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad)
460 GTX overclocked
4 gb DDR2 800 ram
PK5 mobo
WIN7x64

CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C
VGA is fine, hitting 55 C

CQ is running pretty good with high graphics.
EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.


72C is a dangerous Temp for a CPU. Sorry for this in the OPs thread but I seriously suggest tending to your CPU cooling system or have it serviced before possible failure.

Remember that many components of a motherboard such as the MOSFETs are cooled by the exhaust air from the CPU. Therefore if it is clogged you risk damaging things such as the MOSFETS and northbridge.


72C is not a problem. And it will throttle if temps gets too high. Alot of people simply dont understand the difference between Tcase and Tjunction.

Tcase is the external CPU package temperature. Tjunction is the ondie sensors. (DTS).

You cant measure Tcase unless you put a sensor between your CPU and heatsink. And thats far from easy and nobody got that as home users.

Originally by: Syndeq
Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder
E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad)
460 GTX overclocked
4 gb DDR2 800 ram
PK5 mobo
WIN7x64

CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C
VGA is fine, hitting 55 C

CQ is running pretty good with high graphics.
EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.


You do realize max temp per intel on this CPU is 72.4C? That number looked high for that series of CPU so I had to look it up. Running it for long periods at that temp is going to kill it.


Again, you found a Tcase number and now try to compare it to a Tjunction one.

Also as a note, CPUs dont have their lifespan reduced much or any by heat. They have their lifespan reduced due to voltage mainly. Overvoltage is the biggest single most damaging thing. All due to electron migration and material degrading.

Heat only cause temporary stability issues mainly. Voltage, frequency(current) permanently damages.

Commissar Kate
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:10:00 - [105]
 

Runs choppy on full settings, I turn off post processing and put Interior effects and anti-aliasing on medium and get rather smooth 60 FPS .... Still uses tons of CPU and GPU though.

AMD 1090t Sixcore 3.2GHz
8Gb memory
Nvidia GTX 460
Windows 7

Vycra
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:22:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)

Skyla Kavatina
Posted - 2011.06.22 15:40:00 - [107]
 

Running 2 clients @ 1682x1050 with max settings I get 28-35fps on both in CQ.

It runs at ~60% CPU combined hitting about 52C but the graphics cards are hovering around the 70-75C.

Spec:

MB Gigabyte - GA-X48-DS4
PSU Tagan 420W
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.00GHz
Mem 4GB Ballistix DDR2-1066
VGA 2xHD3870 with fanless coolers.

Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 16:13:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Vycra
Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)


Hi Vycra,

just out of interest as I have similar setup and results are you using stock cooling solution on the 460's? I have the MSI's which are silent most of the time but at 65 degrees my fans are running at 70 - 80 % which is really quite loud for me.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.22 16:25:00 - [109]
 

first client in QC is fine 50 fps. when i open a 2nd client even if its in space fps drop liek a stone to 10-15.
if i open a 3rd client have to drop all clients to low settings. now if i get a 4th going all fps and no qc just the wall. all drop to 40fps and my gpu starts to burn.

cant really run 6 clients anymore. worked fine a few days ago. even with dont load station set, the clients are sucking almost a gb of ram(0.9gb max 0.7gb min) while docked and the gpu has gone for a 75-80c range to 92-97c range.

pc
cps amd x4 955 at 3.2ghz
8gb corsair ddr3 1600 mhz ram
ati 4870
2 x 26" lcd monitors

wont buy a new gpu for eve, woudl rather just cancell accounts til after they fix this joke, if ever

Solstice Project
Posted - 2011.06.22 16:26:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Solstice Project on 22/06/2011 16:28:47
using "balanced" and not "power save"

DualCore (+HyperThreaded) Core i3 M 370, running at 2.4 GHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD5470, at 1366x768
Win7, 3 Gig of Ram.

Every graphics setting at High, 4x AA
Physics for Hair turned off, because i got none anyway.


Well, it's not FLUID, but it's not unplayable either.
There's a BIT of stutter, but that's it.

Also, the fans don't work harder as usual.
Unlike in Duke Nukem Forever, which i can run perfectly fluid,
at perfect settings with AA turned on,
but then the fans start screaming.

So ... whatever problems ppl have,
my machine really is far from optimal,
but it works great for CQ.

I won't give FPS, because there's no point in doing it
unless we have a standardized point in the CQ where everybody
measures his FPS.

It's not fluid, but as it's only in CQ, that doesn't matter.

Wishdokkta CEO
The Riot Formation
KRYSIS.
Posted - 2011.06.22 16:36:00 - [111]
 

AMD Phenom x4 955 Black Edition OC @ 4.0ghz
4gb OCZ DDR3
AMD HD6850 1gb OC Edition
2 x 2tb Spinpoint Hard Drives
MSI board
Corsair H50 Liquid Cooling to CPU
Coolermaster HAF case with 2 x 200mm exhuast and 2 x 120mm intakes
Windows 7 64-bit Pro
2 x 23" Viewsonic TFT's

All settings to max including AA

Runs like a dream and likewise with second account running.

Temps: CPU 49deg in CQ, GPU 54deg in CQ

Decent cooling ftw.

Vycra
Posted - 2011.06.23 12:42:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Norian Lonark
Originally by: Vycra
Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)


Hi Vycra,

just out of interest as I have similar setup and results are you using stock cooling solution on the 460's? I have the MSI's which are silent most of the time but at 65 degrees my fans are running at 70 - 80 % which is really quite loud for me.


I have the external exhaust EVGA ones inside a Silverstone FT02 case. I have a manual fan profile were the fan speed matches the temp. So 50 degrees is 50% and 75degrees is 75% etc.

Try install MSI afterburner and make a profile and see how it goes.

Freya Kesanlaulu
Minmatar
Arthashastra
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:29:00 - [113]
 

First constructive and useful thread in last 36 hours.

I have a laptop:

HP Compaq 6820s
ATI Mobility Radeon X1350 graphic card
3 GB ram
Intel Pentium Dual CPU at 2 gHz

I played Eve until now on medium settings and low shader without problems. But when I enter the CQ, I have only 2 fps on low settings! Is that normal? It's impossible to run CQ, so I had to turn it off.

I'd like to hear if there is anyone who can run CQ on the same laptop.
But I think it should work on low settings - and I think the CCP has to fix that problem asap.
Buying a new computer in not the solution.

Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:33:00 - [114]
 

Phenom II X2 3ghz
4 GB RAM
Radeon 4750

Runs fine. Heat problems, but only in the CQ, but that's a problem with my cheap case and stupid stock cooler.

Raynohr
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:42:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Raynohr on 23/06/2011 14:43:09
laptop
intel core i3 370m, 2.4ghz
geforece gt 335m vram 1gb
4gb ram
17" screen at max resolution


seeing as this is an old laptop whit avrage spec from last early 2010 i have never had an fps over 30.
whit everything on max im at 16fps in cq and outside but no heat issues at all. not tested whit 2 clients.

all in all this just tells me that i need to save upp for a better laptop.

Siestre Vitale
Blue Republic
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:43:00 - [116]
 

Edited by: Siestre Vitale on 23/06/2011 14:43:53
Edited by: Siestre Vitale on 23/06/2011 14:43:11
Windows 7

I7-920 stock @ 2.66ghz - Noctua cooler
6gb Viper 1800mhz ram
Nvidia GTX295

All settings on High (1900X1200)

3 Clients running all docked with CQ enabled

50> fps in CQ
40% CPU load
66% Ram load
average of 49 degrees centigrade across all 4 cores
85 degrees centigrade on the GPU

runs smooth, slight graphical "hang" when alt-tabbing between clients

average CQ load time 5 seconds

Overall very happy with the way it performs on my rig, will monitor the temperatures on the GPU as its the only thing thats getting semi close to its max. quite happy considering this is the first "live" build

good work CCP

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.23 14:43:00 - [117]
 


Custom built rig :

Asus Rampage III Extreme mainboard
Intel i7 980x Extreme Edition (6x3.33GHz) @5.2GHz
24GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 (1600MHz) @2100MHz
2GB Sapphire Radeon HD5870 VaporX Edition
6x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (3x 1TB Mirrored RAID)
40GB Corsair Force Series F40 SSD
3x Dell 2408WFP @ 1200x1920 (portrait mode in eyefinity for a 3600x1920 desktop)

CQ runs perfectly fine, I just choose to turn it off because there's literally nothing to do after the first two minutes of discovery that I can't do way faster with the oldschool NeoCOM and Station Services panel.

It looks reasonable but the quality of textures is nowhere near the character creator's standard.

FPS Maxed out at 60 with V-Sync enabled.
GPU Temp on load in CQ : 58c (VaporX Aircooled)
CPU Temp on load in CQ : 46c (Corsair Hydro H70 Liquid Cooled)


Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:12:00 - [118]
 

MB: MSI 880GM-E41 (MS-7623)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (4x 3000Mhz)
mem: 2x Kingston DDR3 2Gb (=4Gb total)
Videocard: MSI GeForce GT 430 1Gb (driverversion 275.33, afaik the latest version)
OS: WinXP Pro SP3
Minitor: Samsung SyncMaster BX2231 at 1920 x 1080 resolution (=native)

Pre-Incarna: In space and in station a capped 60 FPS at interval 1, all settings High, HDR and Dept effects disabled. CPU(1) at max 45c, GPU at max 55c (max 80% usage peek, fans at 50%)
Post-Incarna: In space the same values as Pre-Incarna. Docked with CQ enabled however: 10-15 FPS at interval immidiate (interval 1 gives me 2-3 FPS.....), all settings low/off/disabled, CPU at max 60c, GPU (100% constant usage, fans at 100%) temperature rising till reaching the inevitable threshold of 105c, then shutting down the system (i.e. Blue screen)

Appart from the CPU fan and the two on the video cart I have build in 3 aditional cooling fans. The large steelplate tower is cooled with two 16 cm case fans, giving an airflow of 200m3/hr. The in/out gates for the air are not blocked and its clean (i.e. no large amount of dust or clogged heat sinks) Under any other conditions this machine has never exceded 50c for the CPU and 60c for the GPU, and that was with an outside temperature of 30c. Until now.
I have tried several solutions (like letting the CPU run the Nvidia physX engine, instead of the GPU) but to no avail.
Oh well, CQ can be disabled. For now.....

Zagam
Posted - 2011.06.23 16:16:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: Zagam on 23/06/2011 16:23:08
Edited by: Zagam on 23/06/2011 16:19:01
CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
GPU - MSI GTX460 w/ 1Gb RAM
RAM - 4Gb PC6400
Settings - maxed graphics, sound is off
Monitor - Samsung Syncmaster T220 (1680x1050)

Performance - no issues running dual clients - I actually run better with Incarna than I did on Incursions. (and this is with one of my clients running my station trader). I keep CQ enabled for both.

Qjuwert III
Posted - 2011.07.01 08:57:00 - [120]
 

Edited by: Qjuwert III on 01/07/2011 09:00:13
Originally by: Lyam260
CPU: AMD 965 Black Ed Quad Core @ 3.6GHZ
GPU: 2 x Sapphire ATI 5770's OC'ed
RAM: 8g DDR3 @ 1600
OS: Windows 7 64bit

Runs at 60-80 fps with all max settings expcept with shadows disabled... If I enable shadows I get 60-70 but all the lighting flickers and just about gives me a seizure.. But for now I can deal with no shadows I guess :(


I have the exact same issue. All lights in CQ are flickering like they where all old neon lights or dying fluorescent lamp. Disabling shadows with everything else maxed out fixes the flickering. Running the game full-screened at 1920x1080, presumably at 120Hz.

My specs:
Windows 7 x64
Intel I7 860 @ 4.0GHz
16GB RAM @ DDR3-2133 CAS 8-8-8-24
ASUS Maximus Formula III motherboard
2x Geforce 460 1GB in SLI (Palit Sonic Platinum Editions at factory clocks)
System on Vertex 2 SSD
EVE Online on RAID0 drive.
Besides from the overclock i use several tweaks to improve the performance and/or graphics of applications/games. The problem persists on my "clean system partition" with absolutely no tweaks (emulating casual gamers system settings i.e defaults) with BIOS default profile loaded. All drivers are latest "release" drivers. I've tried various graphics drivers both older and betas. The issue still persist.

We have completely different platforms, Yours is AMD based mine is Intel/nvidia. We are very unlikely to have any driver software utilized by the graphics in common.


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