Posted - 2011.06.22 11:21:00 - [92]

 

Running four clients things get choppy, disabling CQ fixed that. That's the only reason I have for disabling it. I was running it fine on sisi and I'm running it fine on TQ. No heating issues, my tower is running cooler than ever actually. I'm not saying I'm running bug-free but I'm not experiencing the horrors others are reporting.

Posted - 2011.06.22 11:30:00 - [94]

 

Edited by: Syn Fatelyng on 22/06/2011 11:30:39

Originally by: Pirat0r

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My problem is, however, that my southbridge on my motherboard overheats and I've got no way of cooling it down. Where I was able to play Eve Online for hours at a time before Incarna, I'm now only able to play for about 10 minutes on dual screens.

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This seems to be quite common, for the group of people who are having technical issues with CQ.

Attention people with heat issues

I want to note that what CQ is doing right now is no different than playing any other high-quality 3d game. Because they are now making full use of your CPU and GPU, you're beginning to see the weak points in your computer. Much like filling a barrel full of water and noticing a leak. Don't blame the water; find a way to patch up the leak.

In this case, how often do you clean your CPU and GPU and is it possible to have more fine-tuned control over the fanspeed for both? Also, proper airflow through the entire case will reduce temperatures on your southbridge, and any other components (cpu, gpu, drives, pci cards). Might want to see how obstructed your fans are from messy cabling on the inside.

Posted - 2011.06.22 11:42:00 - [96]

 

Eve runs on my 3 PCs at home, 1 better then the other 2 so I have to check the settings. But Eve will no longer on my laptop which is what I'm on now.

Intel Dual Core T2260 1.73GHz
RAM: 2GB
Win 7 32 bit
Video: Inter 945 Express Chipset

When I try to open the client I get a black screen. When I close it I see a message that my video card can't run the new shader and is outdated.

There was a time when I could run 4 clients on it with no problems. Then things changed and the client seemed to become more resource heavy and I started having more crashes and had to run the clients on the lowest settings. Then this new expansion made things worse. Clients constantly crashing and I could only run 2 clients with minimal problems. Now I can' run the client at all because my card can't use the shaders. This thing is years old now anyway. I guess it's about time for a new laptop anyway.

Posted - 2011.06.22 12:56:00 - [98]

 

Edited by: Norian Lonark on 22/06/2011 12:59:12
Edited by: Norian Lonark on 22/06/2011 12:58:29
Intel i7 @ 4ghz
2 x Nvidia 460 in SLI
6GB RAM
Windows 7


Everything runs fine with FPS 60 in space and doesn't drop below 39 in station in station @ 1900 x 1200 (think thats the res at work now).

The only thing is when in CQ temps rise on CPU from 50 - 67degrees and temps on GPU's used to be at 50 now 65 with Fan speed increasing from 40-50% to nearly 80%..

The noise is the only downside for me when playing Crysis or something I don't mind as the noise is masked by sound but when playing EVE I really notice it. I am not complaining though the game looks fantastic and I can always upgrade to a 580 when I got some cash I think these are supposed to run quieter than the 460's at load.

Posted - 2011.06.22 13:24:00 - [100]

 

Edited by: enterprisePSI on 22/06/2011 13:27:34
Edited by: enterprisePSI on 22/06/2011 13:26:52
Average 60 fps, 1920x1080 everything high on this computer.

However, i play eve mostly from work computer. Which is old, and as of today stopped playing eve. So basically no more eve for me.

Any idea how to bypass the SM 3.0 restriction?

Posted - 2011.06.22 13:38:00 - [102]

 

Ubuntu 10.04 running Gametree Linux v.2010121
Intel i5-2500k w/ stock fan
8g ram
EVGA 9600gt 512mb ram on nvidia linux driver 195.36.24
running two clients with all graphics on medium or low (only low if there is no medium)
and both in space around 30-45 fps (in space)

Posted - 2011.06.22 15:09:00 - [104]

 

Edited by: Shintai on 22/06/2011 15:24:28

Originally by: Zachstar

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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder

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E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad)
460 GTX overclocked
4 gb DDR2 800 ram
PK5 mobo
WIN7x64

CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C
VGA is fine, hitting 55 C

CQ is running pretty good with high graphics.
EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.

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72C is a dangerous Temp for a CPU. Sorry for this in the OPs thread but I seriously suggest tending to your CPU cooling system or have it serviced before possible failure.

Remember that many components of a motherboard such as the MOSFETs are cooled by the exhaust air from the CPU. Therefore if it is clogged you risk damaging things such as the MOSFETS and northbridge.

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72C is not a problem. And it will throttle if temps gets too high. Alot of people simply dont understand the difference between Tcase and Tjunction.

Tcase is the external CPU package temperature. Tjunction is the ondie sensors. (DTS).

You cant measure Tcase unless you put a sensor between your CPU and heatsink. And thats far from easy and nobody got that as home users.

Originally by: Syndeq

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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder

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E8400 @3.0 GHz stock cooler with a lot of dust (yeah, my bad)
460 GTX overclocked
4 gb DDR2 800 ram
PK5 mobo
WIN7x64

CPU is hitting 100% as usual with new stuff. max temp is hitting 72 C
VGA is fine, hitting 55 C

CQ is running pretty good with high graphics.
EVE is somehow prettier now, running fine.

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You do realize max temp per intel on this CPU is 72.4C? That number looked high for that series of CPU so I had to look it up. Running it for long periods at that temp is going to kill it.

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Again, you found a Tcase number and now try to compare it to a Tjunction one.

Also as a note, CPUs dont have their lifespan reduced much or any by heat. They have their lifespan reduced due to voltage mainly. Overvoltage is the biggest single most damaging thing. All due to electron migration and material degrading.

Heat only cause temporary stability issues mainly. Voltage, frequency(current) permanently damages.

Posted - 2011.06.22 15:22:00 - [106]

 

Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)

Posted - 2011.06.22 16:13:00 - [108]

 

Originally by: Vycra

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Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)

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Hi Vycra,

just out of interest as I have similar setup and results are you using stock cooling solution on the 460's? I have the MSI's which are silent most of the time but at 65 degrees my fans are running at 70 - 80 % which is really quite loud for me.

Posted - 2011.06.22 16:26:00 - [110]

 

Edited by: Solstice Project on 22/06/2011 16:28:47
using "balanced" and not "power save"

DualCore (+HyperThreaded) Core i3 M 370, running at 2.4 GHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD5470, at 1366x768
Win7, 3 Gig of Ram.

Every graphics setting at High, 4x AA
Physics for Hair turned off, because i got none anyway.


Well, it's not FLUID, but it's not unplayable either.
There's a BIT of stutter, but that's it.

Also, the fans don't work harder as usual.
Unlike in Duke Nukem Forever, which i can run perfectly fluid,
at perfect settings with AA turned on,
but then the fans start screaming.

So ... whatever problems ppl have,
my machine really is far from optimal,
but it works great for CQ.

I won't give FPS, because there's no point in doing it
unless we have a standardized point in the CQ where everybody
measures his FPS.

It's not fluid, but as it's only in CQ, that doesn't matter.

Posted - 2011.06.23 12:42:00 - [112]

 

Originally by: Norian Lonark

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Originally by: Vycra

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Edited by: Vycra on 22/06/2011 15:22:45
CPU - i7-950 @ 4.3Ghz
Ram - 12GB 1600Mhz
GPU - 2x GTX460 @ 900/1950
Settings - Max in game (Anti Aliasing set to low, you'll see why below)

Playing at 5280x1050 with 2x2 SSAA (Supersampling antialiasing) and 8xQ AA.

Can load 3 clients and play just fine. Not tested with more than 3 yet.

In CQ I get ~35fps. GPU temps never above 75 degrees celsius (mind they are in SLI)

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Hi Vycra,

just out of interest as I have similar setup and results are you using stock cooling solution on the 460's? I have the MSI's which are silent most of the time but at 65 degrees my fans are running at 70 - 80 % which is really quite loud for me.

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I have the external exhaust EVGA ones inside a Silverstone FT02 case. I have a manual fan profile were the fan speed matches the temp. So 50 degrees is 50% and 75degrees is 75% etc.

Try install MSI afterburner and make a profile and see how it goes.

Posted - 2011.06.23 14:33:00 - [114]

 

Phenom II X2 3ghz
4 GB RAM
Radeon 4750

Runs fine. Heat problems, but only in the CQ, but that's a problem with my cheap case and stupid stock cooler.

Posted - 2011.06.23 14:43:00 - [116]

 

Edited by: Siestre Vitale on 23/06/2011 14:43:53
Edited by: Siestre Vitale on 23/06/2011 14:43:11
Windows 7

I7-920 stock @ 2.66ghz - Noctua cooler
6gb Viper 1800mhz ram
Nvidia GTX295

All settings on High (1900X1200)

3 Clients running all docked with CQ enabled

50> fps in CQ
40% CPU load
66% Ram load
average of 49 degrees centigrade across all 4 cores
85 degrees centigrade on the GPU

runs smooth, slight graphical "hang" when alt-tabbing between clients

average CQ load time 5 seconds

Overall very happy with the way it performs on my rig, will monitor the temperatures on the GPU as its the only thing thats getting semi close to its max. quite happy considering this is the first "live" build

good work CCP

Posted - 2011.06.23 16:12:00 - [118]

 

MB: MSI 880GM-E41 (MS-7623)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor (4x 3000Mhz)
mem: 2x Kingston DDR3 2Gb (=4Gb total)
Videocard: MSI GeForce GT 430 1Gb (driverversion 275.33, afaik the latest version)
OS: WinXP Pro SP3
Minitor: Samsung SyncMaster BX2231 at 1920 x 1080 resolution (=native)

Pre-Incarna: In space and in station a capped 60 FPS at interval 1, all settings High, HDR and Dept effects disabled. CPU(1) at max 45c, GPU at max 55c (max 80% usage peek, fans at 50%)
Post-Incarna: In space the same values as Pre-Incarna. Docked with CQ enabled however: 10-15 FPS at interval immidiate (interval 1 gives me 2-3 FPS.....), all settings low/off/disabled, CPU at max 60c, GPU (100% constant usage, fans at 100%) temperature rising till reaching the inevitable threshold of 105c, then shutting down the system (i.e. Blue screen)

Appart from the CPU fan and the two on the video cart I have build in 3 aditional cooling fans. The large steelplate tower is cooled with two 16 cm case fans, giving an airflow of 200m3/hr. The in/out gates for the air are not blocked and its clean (i.e. no large amount of dust or clogged heat sinks) Under any other conditions this machine has never exceded 50c for the CPU and 60c for the GPU, and that was with an outside temperature of 30c. Until now.
I have tried several solutions (like letting the CPU run the Nvidia physX engine, instead of the GPU) but to no avail.
Oh well, CQ can be disabled. For now.....

Posted - 2011.07.01 08:57:00 - [120]

 

Edited by: Qjuwert III on 01/07/2011 09:00:13

Originally by: Lyam260

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CPU: AMD 965 Black Ed Quad Core @ 3.6GHZ
GPU: 2 x Sapphire ATI 5770's OC'ed
RAM: 8g DDR3 @ 1600
OS: Windows 7 64bit

Runs at 60-80 fps with all max settings expcept with shadows disabled... If I enable shadows I get 60-70 but all the lighting flickers and just about gives me a seizure.. But for now I can deal with no shadows I guess :(

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I have the exact same issue. All lights in CQ are flickering like they where all old neon lights or dying fluorescent lamp. Disabling shadows with everything else maxed out fixes the flickering. Running the game full-screened at 1920x1080, presumably at 120Hz.

My specs:
Windows 7 x64
Intel I7 860 @ 4.0GHz
16GB RAM @ DDR3-2133 CAS 8-8-8-24
ASUS Maximus Formula III motherboard
2x Geforce 460 1GB in SLI (Palit Sonic Platinum Editions at factory clocks)
System on Vertex 2 SSD
EVE Online on RAID0 drive.
Besides from the overclock i use several tweaks to improve the performance and/or graphics of applications/games. The problem persists on my "clean system partition" with absolutely no tweaks (emulating casual gamers system settings i.e defaults) with BIOS default profile loaded. All drivers are latest "release" drivers. I've tried various graphics drivers both older and betas. The issue still persist.

We have completely different platforms, Yours is AMD based mine is Intel/nvidia. We are very unlikely to have any driver software utilized by the graphics in common.