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Michelle Vega
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:28:00 - [1]
 

It seems kind of silly that a huge change to the game (a major patch) is free. Every time a new splash screen comes out there should be an automatic patch fee which covers bandwidth and the extra work put in by CCP.

This would help keep AUR prices lower and PLEX prices in balance.

The player could of course decline the patch fee if he or her decides they'd had enough. The patch fee could be in the form of a PLEX or deducted from the players credit card.

At worst perhaps 1-2% of the playbase would quit. 20-30% would take the game more seriously.

My two cents.
Not a trollpost.
Michelle Vega

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:31:00 - [2]
 

Actually I think only 20-30% would NOT quit. Probably even less.

Caroline Nikon
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:35:00 - [3]
 

I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....

Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:35:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Tappits on 22/06/2011 00:35:19
Originally by: Michelle Vega
It seems kind of silly that a huge change to the game (a major patch) is free. Every time a new splash screen comes out there should be an automatic patch fee which covers bandwidth and the extra work put in by CCP.

This would help keep AUR prices lower and PLEX prices in balance.

The player could of course decline the patch fee if he or her decides they'd had enough. The patch fee could be in the form of a PLEX or deducted from the players credit card.

At worst perhaps 1-2% of the playbase would quit. 20-30% would take the game more seriously.

My two cents.
Not a trollpost.
Michelle Vega



Brill but if i have to pay for this one i would like my back as its crap.

All so..... GET OUT

Originally by: Caroline Nikon
I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....

Word

Graf Tomson
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:36:00 - [5]
 

Not feasible technically or socially.

Also, I don't want AUR to be low. You idiots want to pay 80 bucks for a monocle for your internet character, go for it.

Klein Warlock
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:36:00 - [6]
 

I would say 20-30% would not quit while 70-80% would quit. Sure its good if they can make more monny but they have eve store for that and selling plex. Do you want the game end up costing 300dollar a month would you play more serious then ??

Michelle Vega
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:45:00 - [7]
 

No not 300 a month. After red moon rising there have only been a handful of patches. Oon average it would cost 2-3 plex per year max. Still cheaper than any other spaceship interweb game out there.

Hwi Ix
Gallente
New Eden Trade Union
Genesis Invictus
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:49:00 - [8]
 

they'd have to do better then.

Blar Depton
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:57:00 - [9]
 

Michelle, replace that intelligence implant in your head because it is running at -25. There should be an automatic reimbursement fee so that players can get there bandwidth back for a patch that:
a) 70% don't want
b) a larger percentage probably wont use more than once
c) makes simple tasks longer to accomplish
d) costs players more real money to run due to increased CPU and GPU load

Michelle Vega
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:07:00 - [10]
 

I understand that players with less money (outdated computers) would find the payment a little overwhelming but if you really think about it eve is not on the expensive category if mmos.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. It was just a thought.

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:08:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 22/06/2011 01:10:42
that would be awesom. then i wouldnt pay and woudl still have the awesomness fo ship spinning.


why is it peopel keep banging on about old pc's and QC. most people have stated that it works on teher pc's and it just infact sucks balls.

yesterday could run all 8 accounts in and out of station. today i can with the help of a little check box. DONT TAKE AWAY THAT CHECK BOX CCP. bad programming and a feature that is lame do not make a bad pc

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:11:00 - [12]
 

If they tried to switch to the pay per expansion model, they would be forced to release expansion of a certain quality, or nobody would buy them.

Out of the last 5 or 6 expansions, 3 have been utter garbage, 2 have been ok, and 1 has been excellent.

Taking payment for expansions directly from subscriptions each month and then marketing them as "free" enables them to chuck any old dross out and get away with it. Some people even thank them for it.

Tobiaz
Spacerats
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:14:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 01:14:55
I've paid subscription since beta. That's bordering 1500 euro. Like hell if I'm going to pay for an update that's completely focused on squeezing more money out of the community with less content then ever.

edit: FFS it's even more money with the alts Neutral

Bloodcrow
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:17:00 - [14]
 

Honestly, I wouldnt of paid for Incarna, I would of unsubscribed for 6-8 months until content was added to the game.

Alot of work has gone into this, but yet it sadly feels token in terms of content of the patch.

Harkster
Imperial Trade Federation
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:18:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Caroline Nikon
I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....


This

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:19:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Caroline Nikon
I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....


this

Oranen
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:27:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Narisa Bithon
Originally by: Caroline Nikon
I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....


this


Same here, tell me who to pay and I would.

You know something is wrong when you click a button on the menu that disables 95% of the patch - and it has exactly ZERO impact on the play of the game once you do that.

Richard C Hoagland
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:38:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Michelle Vega
It seems kind of silly that a huge change to the game (a major patch) is free. Every time a new splash screen comes out there should be an automatic patch fee which covers bandwidth and the extra work put in by CCP.

This would help keep AUR prices lower and PLEX prices in balance.

The player could of course decline the patch fee if he or her decides they'd had enough. The patch fee could be in the form of a PLEX or deducted from the players credit card.

At worst perhaps 1-2% of the playbase would quit. 20-30% would take the game more seriously.

My two cents.
Not a trollpost.
Michelle Vega



Go take a look at what other companies tend to produce for their paid expansions. You need enough content to justify charging money for it. I'm quite fine with the CQ, but the fact is, this patch just doesn't have enough on its own to justify any cost beyond our monthly subs (which isn't zero). While the costs to develop Incarna-related content are probably not negligible, all we have in this first patch is a nice room with a couch and some big screens, and we're missing three versions of that room.


IIIAsharakIII
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:41:00 - [19]
 

You're talking about a company that....

Already has a number of subscribers who pay for more than one account.

Already has a number of subscribers purchasing IN-GAME currency.

Already has an online store with gift shop crap.

Now has a micro-transactions store for IN-GAME products.



I think they're getting enough money.

mobius nm
Minmatar
Empyrean Engineering
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:42:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Caroline Nikon
I woudl gladly pay 15$ to get RID of incanrna and revert my client to work like yesterday....


Quoted for truth

Paija
Posted - 2011.06.22 18:59:00 - [21]
 

Rumour has it this may one day come true.
4 out of 5 people would not want to see this happen.

Arm Smith
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:03:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Arm Smith on 22/06/2011 19:03:19
pay to patch and im done, simples.

i pay alot of money per month to play so why should i pay more for patches and changes that are a waste of time (current patch in case)

i'd guess player numbers would rop a good 50%

Fretful Cabinboy
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:22:00 - [23]
 

You've clearly never worked in software production. QA and rev rec both say no.

Red Emma
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:23:00 - [24]
 

I think we're moving in the opposite direction from paid expansions. The current scheme seems to have an emphasis on more frequent releases, which means you aren't getting one or two big patches a year. Incarna will be no different. We got one version of the CQ, and will get the other three later this summer.

With CCP adding fluff content like the Noble Exchange, I think they're looking at other ways to make extra cash, that won't involve charging money for patches. In short, I don't see where we'd need to worry about paid expansions.


 

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