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Jubil
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:30:00 - [991]
 

Edited by: Jubil on 23/06/2011 08:30:08
XX - 2 accounts and seriously considering cancellation of my accounts entirely.

Angelwhisper
Caldari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:32:00 - [992]
 

x I want my ship spinning

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:37:00 - [993]
 

A lot of whining going on for nothing. Are you people actually whining because CCP evolved the game to keep up with modern mmo's and made use of modern technology? Give me a break, go play 'Space Orbit' if you want a cheap, no-brainer space game with no immersion.

I like Incarna a lot and I look forward to where CCP is headed with the new features.

Star Manul
Gallente
LostMoon555
Silent Requiem
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:42:00 - [994]
 

X

Incarna is cool. BUT if I dock for seconds no reasons to leave ship. And I often dock for secondsEvil or Very Mad

Ramiroz Kaldary
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:45:00 - [995]
 

X I want the hangar view back!!!!!!!!!!!

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:47:00 - [996]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 23/06/2011 08:47:48
Originally by: Galdor
A lot of whining going on for nothing. Are you people actually whining because CCP evolved the game to keep up with modern mmo's and made use of modern technology?
"Evolving" does not include the removal of functionality, reduction of choice and options, reduction of immersion, and breaking the established lore.

So no, people are not whining for that reason. They're whining because CCP is not evolving the game, but rather moving backwards.

Lexxxii
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:48:00 - [997]
 

Originally by: Galdor
A lot of whining going on for nothing. Are you people actually whining because CCP evolved the game to keep up with modern mmo's and made use of modern technology? Give me a break, go play 'Space Orbit' if you want a cheap, no-brainer space game with no immersion.

I like Incarna a lot and I look forward to where CCP is headed with the new features.



Anyone who completely misses the point of the concerns everyone has here can't be the sharpest knife in the box

jx3p
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:51:00 - [998]
 

X

Danatious
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:52:00 - [999]
 

YOU DONE ****ED UP CCP,

If you do this again myself and my partner will be closing our accounts and play something else!ExclamationExclamationExclamationExclamationExclamation

Aylara
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:53:00 - [1000]
 

X Incarna is nice, but CQ should not be mandatory

Sven Hammerstorm
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:53:00 - [1001]
 

x

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:56:00 - [1002]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 23/06/2011 08:47:48
Originally by: Galdor
A lot of whining going on for nothing. Are you people actually whining because CCP evolved the game to keep up with modern mmo's and made use of modern technology?
"Evolving" does not include the removal of functionality, reduction of choice and options, reduction of immersion, and breaking the established lore.

So no, people are not whining for that reason. They're whining because CCP is not evolving the game, but rather moving backwards.


Lol, the CQ still has all the functionality of the old stations. Leaving the pods does NOT break the lore. It has always been in the lore before Incarna. It has never said the pilots stay in the pods forever, that is physically impossible. The pew-pew players just have allergic reactions to anything other than pulling a trigger is the problem. Throwing fits solves nothing.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:57:00 - [1003]
 

X, incarna isnt that bad of an idea, but CCPs implementation is.

Also want ship spinning (and no not MT for ship spinning)

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 08:59:00 - [1004]
 

Originally by: Lexxxii
Originally by: Galdor
A lot of whining going on for nothing. Are you people actually whining because CCP evolved the game to keep up with modern mmo's and made use of modern technology? Give me a break, go play 'Space Orbit' if you want a cheap, no-brainer space game with no immersion.

I like Incarna a lot and I look forward to where CCP is headed with the new features.



Anyone who completely misses the point of the concerns everyone has here can't be the sharpest knife in the box


Sharp enough to know if you had one, you would have said it instead of wasting a post just to flame.

Dalsa Darkworker
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:00:00 - [1005]
 

X

I want the old hangar view back!

Sarin Alaya
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:02:00 - [1006]
 

X - The old hangar back with a button saying "ENTER STATION"

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:02:00 - [1007]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 23/06/2011 09:04:09
Originally by: Galdor
Lol, the CQ still has all the functionality of the old stations.
Incorrect, but if you aren't familiar enough with either station view to know this, I can understand why you think people are whining. Some of the quickest and most immediately accessible ways of managing your ship has been completely removed. They are also going to remove the functionality of not loading station environments to begin with.

Try the following: double click your ship. Now right-click your ship. Now do either of those when not on the balcony. Now do either of those with station environments turned off. Report back on what happens in each case…
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Leaving the pods does NOT break the lore.
The ability to leave the pods does not; the requirement to leave them does. The ability to do so very quickly does. The idea of walking in the buff, covered in goo, on a metal grating in full view of the world does. Incarna breaks immersion and goes against the lore far more than it improves and follows them.

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:03:00 - [1008]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
X, incarna isnt that bad of an idea, but CCPs implementation is.

Also want ship spinning (and no not MT for ship spinning)


I laugh every time someone tries to use that as a reason. That is like saying "No thanks, I don't want the keys to a fast car, I just want the little model to look at so I can spin it in my hand..."

Speaking of fast, if you can't load a simple CQ and have fps problems; then get a better PC and don't whine to reduce the game features just because you're suffering.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:06:00 - [1009]
 

Originally by: Galdor
Speaking of fast, if you can't load a simple CQ and have fps problems; then get a better PC and don't whine to reduce the game features just because you're suffering.
…or they could just keep the feature with next to no additional work and make more people happy. Why does the idea of people having options scare you so much? Why are you so butthurt over the idea that people aren't interested in loading content they don't intend to use?

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:06:00 - [1010]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Galdor
[Lol, the CQ still has all the functionality of the old stations.
Incorrect, but if you aren't familiar enough with either station view to know this, I can understand why you think people are whining. Some of the quickest and most immediately accessible ways of managing your ship has been completely removed. They are also going to remove the functionality of not loading station environments to begin with.
Quote:
Leaving the pods does NOT break the lore.
The ability to leave the pods does not; the requirement to leave them does. The ability to do so very quickly does. The idea of walking in the buff, covered in goo, on a metal grating in full view of the world does. Incarna breaks immersion and goes against the lore far more than it improves and follows them.


As far as the elements you say break lore goes, it's a game. Like every other game out there, you have to bend certain rules and cut corners in the interest of time and entertainment. No one would want to wait hours for a pilot to remove himself from a pod after docking, you are being unrealistic in not seeing the bigger picture.

Lexxxii
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:08:00 - [1011]
 

Originally by: Galdor
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Galdor
[Lol, the CQ still has all the functionality of the old stations.
Incorrect, but if you aren't familiar enough with either station view to know this, I can understand why you think people are whining. Some of the quickest and most immediately accessible ways of managing your ship has been completely removed. They are also going to remove the functionality of not loading station environments to begin with.
Quote:
Leaving the pods does NOT break the lore.
The ability to leave the pods does not; the requirement to leave them does. The ability to do so very quickly does. The idea of walking in the buff, covered in goo, on a metal grating in full view of the world does. Incarna breaks immersion and goes against the lore far more than it improves and follows them.


As far as the elements you say break lore goes, it's a game. Like every other game out there, you have to bend certain rules and cut corners in the interest of time and entertainment. No one would want to wait hours for a pilot to remove himself from a pod after docking, you are being unrealistic in not seeing the bigger picture.


LOL at this guy .... /facepalm

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:08:00 - [1012]
 


[x] Confirming a quad GPU cores doesn't help.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:08:00 - [1013]
 

Originally by: Galdor
As far as the elements you say break lore goes, it's a game. Like every other game out there, you have to bend certain rules and cut corners in the interest of time and entertainment. No one would want to wait hours for a pilot to remove himself from a pod after docking, you are being unrealistic in not seeing the bigger picture.
So you agree, then, that they should keep the hangar view. Good.

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:10:00 - [1014]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Galdor
Speaking of fast, if you can't load a simple CQ and have fps problems; then get a better PC and don't whine to reduce the game features just because you're suffering.
…or they could just keep the feature with next to no additional work and make more people happy. Why does the idea of people having options scare you so much? Why are you so butthurt over the idea that people aren't interested in loading content they don't intend to use?


Because thanks to Moore's Law, technology evolves at an ever increasing rate and with that, technology components inevitably become more inexpensive. Thus, leaving no reason why a gamer can't be surprised that games require more and more technology and likewise require gamers to upgrade along with it.

Joao Duarte
Selflessness
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:11:00 - [1015]
 

x

Galdor
Gallente
Khatovar Industries Ltd
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:12:00 - [1016]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Galdor
As far as the elements you say break lore goes, it's a game. Like every other game out there, you have to bend certain rules and cut corners in the interest of time and entertainment. No one would want to wait hours for a pilot to remove himself from a pod after docking, you are being unrealistic in not seeing the bigger picture.
So you agree, then, that they should keep the hangar view. Good.


Don't put words in other people's mouths. I said, bend not break rules by having a cheaply designed little model sitting in a hangar so gamers can spin the ship like a 2 yr old with a toy. The old stations are gone, change happens, life goes on. Have a nice day

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:13:00 - [1017]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 23/06/2011 09:16:32
Originally by: Galdor
Because thanks to Moore's Law, technology evolves at an ever increasing rate and with that, technology components inevitably become more inexpensive. Thus, leaving no reason why a gamer can't be surprised that games require more and more technology and likewise require gamers to upgrade along with it.
…which doesn't answer the concern or the question: they could just keep the feature with next to no additional work and make more people happy. And again, why does the idea of people having options scare you so much? Why are you so butthurt over the idea that people aren't interested in loading content they don't intend to use?

Moore's Law means that more options can be made available to everyone without making clogging everything up. So why reduce the number of options?
Quote:
Don't put words in other people's mouths. I said, bend not break rules by having a cheaply designed little model sitting in a hangar so gamers can spin the ship like a 2 yr old with a toy.
Why not? They're not spinning the ship like a toy, after all — that's what the new balcony view does — they spin a camera around the ship. And why not maintain lore by only breaking it in one place (taking hours to leave the ship) rather than in multiple places (leaving the ship every time you dock, appearing naked, leaving the ship instantly)?

I'm not putting words in your mouth — I'm taking your comment about "[bending] certain rules and cut corners in the interest of time and entertainment" to its logical conclusion.

i hatechosingnames
Gallente
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:15:00 - [1018]
 

Edited by: i hatechosingnames on 23/06/2011 09:15:51
Edited by: i hatechosingnames on 23/06/2011 09:15:31
x

CCP you took away functionality with this patch,
    no double click to open cargo
    no dragging ship into hanger to activate it
    no dragging item into hanger to more them there
    NO SHIP SPINNING


CQ adds nothing to this game - if someone has disabled station environment, please give us back the old hanger with all it's functionality intact.

IskPlease
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:15:00 - [1019]
 

[X] - Disabled because i'm not getting paid to do WoD quality assurance

Pinco Pez
UK Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2011.06.23 09:24:00 - [1020]
 

[x]

because there was a stupid doll pretending to be me.


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