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Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:34:00 - [691]
 

I'm pretty much freaked out by those prices. Pay $20 for one piece of dress? I mean, I understand that it's a permanent item, it's not like a ship that you can loose anywhere, it supposed to cost some money, but still, what the hell? One skirt cost more than two my Meta-4 fitted Abaddons? HOW?

There's some people out there that might buy pricy dresses just to look fancy, but what's the point, you can't show it anywhere, there's no station walking yet. And will any EVE player spend 1.5bil for a monocle, while he can spend such money to fit couple ships and go solo PvP in low/null?

Just... why?

Midnight Hope
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:34:00 - [692]
 

CCP are you freaking insane!! Obviously you missed the idea of MICRO-transactions!

What's micro in a 50$ ugly monocle?!! Evil or Very Mad (Not that the rest of the crap is any better...or cheaper)

I was expecting on throwing away a few bucks here and there every now and then. With these prices there's no way! I'd rather use PLEX to play 30 more days.

I still can't understand how this makes ANY sense business wise. Rolling Eyes

You obviously are out of touch with your player base.

Even an app in the apple store costs you less than 5$ (most of them between $1 or $2).

Tron Flux
Caldari
Midnite Madness
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:36:00 - [693]
 

@silver night

Too expensive (full stop) in what context? If you accept it as a balancing mechanism, then the high price is necessary to have a balancing effect.

I read 22 pages of this thread and what I mostly see in between the full stops is, "I can't afford it without spending RL money."

I'd say that those people (myself included) aren't the target market because those aren't the people unbalancing the game.

Agent 42
Gallente
RADIO RAMPAGE
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:37:00 - [694]
 

Edited by: Agent 42 on 22/06/2011 06:37:51
Quote:
well if you bought a plex for real life cash, that pretty much says it all how much of a moron you are.

its pretty obvious that the items are meant for people who have toons of i money so they can buy pelxes and convert it to aurum.


As I said, I expected to get most of my isk back by reselling items I purchase from the remaining Aur I would have left. I usually pay for my accounts with isk but lately I've been falling behind so I'm buying plexes to catch up. It wasn't dumb, just a huge oversight I was going too fast. I didn't take the time to look at the prices, I just assumed they would be the same as they were on the test server or at least reasonable.

It's just like an ingame scam, no one would pay 450 mil for a t1 Megathron but some people do get caught because they're too fast.

I fully expect CCP to change the prices but they better make the items cost less Aur rather than give more Aur per plex or I'll be ****ed.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:37:00 - [695]
 

I wonder what the infamous stripper pole is going to cost? 100k aurum?

Naburi NasNaburi
Rens Nursing Home
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:39:00 - [696]
 


Nery Nebu
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:39:00 - [697]
 

LOL CCP went Insane with these prices!


Aelita
Minmatar
CHON
THE R0NIN
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:39:00 - [698]
 

Edited by: Aelita on 22/06/2011 06:40:12
CCP lost natural sense. Virtual items cost more then stuff in real life? Do you think I will go naked out on street just to buy virtual items in game? Dress in shop cost less than 50$ here in my country so...

If CCP is so poor company and need money so badly, they just could ask me for small donation and I would will decide to give it + my monthly subscription for 5 accounts. But what Incarna bring in start to knock my mind and I would rething if I would need to play EVE at all and use subs money for something else.

couriertrading alt
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:39:00 - [699]
 

WOW...

This is bad CCP, not bad for us because we dont have to buy this C**p but bad for you when a lot of people unsub due to massive greed on your part.

So, anyone else looking forward to SWTOR?

COMEATMEBRO IMHERE
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:40:00 - [700]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: COMEATMEBRO IMHERE

Don't deny your heritage, blame your parents for inbreding. One day you will be loved (maybe by some men in an underground toilet), so keep up the posting kid.


How do you know there are men in some nasty stanky ol underground toilet, do you frequent those sorts of places often?


nana don't deny it. First your Heritage and now your work. But i can see why you are upset, since you served so many men untill you could afford a plex (to convert it to aurum) and buy yourself a shiny monocol. Sadly the price is too high, so now you need to work even HARDER till you can get one.

Ulmega
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:40:00 - [701]
 

this is plain stupid, hell in other games when I drop down 12 bucks I get a whole new ship with a nice special trick, in an other game when I drop 30 I get a nice big fat tank that makes everyone cry and here I do not even get something that remotely matters.

Guess they made it easy on my wallet, means new PC faster I suppose, still pricing is just plain stupid and no worth the money even remotely.

Stignos
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:42:00 - [702]
 

Never using the Aurum for those prizes, and if DUST 514 is going to have a simmilar rating system then I wont be playing that either.

This is rather insulting.

Spacing Cowboy
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:43:00 - [703]
 

Dear ccp...

If you charge 15 euro for a pants...


Wth will you charge for a ship logo or ship paintjob?

2000 euro's ???


Ccp im most willing to pay for shiny stuff,
However....

With these prices, i at least expect a post package with some ana-lube to .... Make the price better to.. Take...


Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:45:00 - [704]
 

Hey CCP how much aurum would I have to pay for a boob job on my character? I want GG cups Very Happy

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:47:00 - [705]
 

Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 22/06/2011 06:48:58

Some example for microtransactions in other games I play/used to play:

WoW (EU): Celestial Steed: 20

LoL (EU): any legendary skin: 1,820 RP ~ 9.7-10.8

WoT (US): Lowe tank: 7,500 gold ~ 30-41$

except for the monocle CCP's pricing does not seem to be grossly out of line for microtransactions...

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:49:00 - [706]
 

Originally by: COMEATMEBRO IMHERE

nana don't deny it. First your Heritage and now your work. But i can see why you are upset, since you served so many men untill you could afford a plex (to convert it to aurum) and buy yourself a shiny monocol. Sadly the price is too high, so now you need to work even HARDER till you can get one.



Fortunately for me, I'm not stupid enough to buy any of this MT crap. However since you seem to be impressed with it, we'll all be looking forward to your new monocle portrait.

Agent 42
Gallente
RADIO RAMPAGE
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:49:00 - [707]
 

Edited by: Agent 42 on 22/06/2011 06:50:07
Quote:
Hey CCP how much aurum would I have to pay for a boob job on my character? I want GG cups Very Happy



Sorry CCP hasn't yet worked out how to convert our souls to Aur.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:49:00 - [708]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 22/06/2011 06:50:55
Originally by: Tron Flux
I read 22 pages of this thread and what I mostly see in between the full stops is, "I can't afford it without spending RL money."

I'd say that those people (myself included) aren't the target market because those aren't the people unbalancing the game.
The assumption here is that, since it's an MT shop, it's there for CCP to make money. The problem is that, with the current prices, it will utterly fail to serve that purpose because no-one will buy additional PLEX to feed into the ship. The PLEX market will remain completely the same once the patch-day speculation dies down.

As someone said in one of these threads (can't keep track any more): they've managed to price themselves out of their own monopoly they are the only vendor in the market, and they've made sure people won't choose that vendor.

If they want to make money off of it, they need volume and velocity, not high price and ε sales. By setting the AUR price that high, and by making sure that to compensate the stuff is hard to lose, they've killed both the primary demand and any chance of a secondary market.

Token Afrodude
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:50:00 - [709]
 

Originally by: Julian Assagne
quit eve and join Perpetuum Online, mecha eve WITHOUT ****ty overpriced Clothings!




BIG +1.

Mithfindel
Zenko Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:51:00 - [710]
 

The flow of wealth related to PLEX in Incarna:
(1) Someone wanting ISK buys a PLEX, sells on the market.
(2a) Player wanting to play but can't afford it buys the PLEX, gets game time. (End of story.)
(2b) Player wanting to show off buys PLEX, converts to e-gold.
(3) E-gold is used to buy overpriced pixels.

It is a minor PLEX sink designed to be fueled by those with too much ingame ISK. Some people will, no doubt, use their real life wallets for this, but no one in their right minds is going to use anything but ISK to get the PLEX to be converted to e-gold. So people not wanting microtransactions (RL money to game stuff) got what they wanted, mostly.

PLEX is an interesting item, because it has no ingame use. It simply exists as a way for people to trade game time, and now "other services" in a simple way using the ingame market. (The only ingame function it has is to be blown up while being transported from station to station.) The sole PLEX faucet is people who want to buy ISK with real money. This far, the only PLEX sink was people who can't or do not want to buy game time with real money. Now there's an added sink of people with really, really too much money lying in their wallets, with characters which have everything they want. Now they can also have some clothes on top of that.

I don't have the numbers of how many active trillionaire characters we have in EVE, but if a few dozen of them throw a few billions on the vanity market, I'd assume the feature has done its job about getting that ISK from their wallets back to circulation. A hint to CCP: It should be made possible to withdraw ISK again from the wallet as an ingame item (ISK bills). These bills could be, say, 1k, 10k, 100k and 1M. Each bill could be used to roll a cigarette. The 1k bill could be used to make a small cigarette, whereas the 1M bill would show up as a Double Corona cigar. To be used by those who have money to burn.

Triple Entendre
Atrocity.
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:51:00 - [711]
 


Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:51:00 - [712]
 

Or may be CCP are just creating a PLEX sink? As there are players who accumulate enormous amounts of PLEX and it is starting to show on CCP accounting reports?

I was telling long time ago (on other toon) that GTC's are a very bad thing with a potential to hit Eve pretty hard and many were saying how wonderful that some ppl can play for free and others who don't have time to play will still play by paying for those who have too much time and too little cash?
The problem here is CCP service time can be stockpiled, speculated and bought for virtual currency. Now their accountants see the problem and BizDev will not stop before they address the problem, even by selling overpowered pwnmobiles for AUR.

Syna Atruin
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:52:00 - [713]
 

Wow. Less then 8 hours and this thred is over 700 posts at 24-25 pages. I really really hope CCP gets this rather massive hint we are trying to give them. The most expencive item in the current store should be less then $2.00.

Spin Spin Sugar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:52:00 - [714]
 

******ed.

Pixels cost more than RL items....

Even more ******ed, pixel items that no one else can see because "Incarna" is just looking at your own backside...


When going for fail, might as well make it a big fail eh?


SPACESHIPS MUTHERFARKER...

Communith
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:52:00 - [715]
 

Subscription cancelled, this is a slap in the face.

Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:54:00 - [716]
 

Originally by: Tron Flux
@silver night

Too expensive (full stop) in what context? If you accept it as a balancing mechanism, then the high price is necessary to have a balancing effect.

I read 22 pages of this thread and what I mostly see in between the full stops is, "I can't afford it without spending RL money."

I'd say that those people (myself included) aren't the target market because those aren't the people unbalancing the game.


Right. What I'm saying is that for those of us who do have plenty of money, and can afford it, it still doesn't make sense. I'd be happy to buy vanity items, and I could afford it at twice the price, or five times the price. But being able to afford it isn't really the point. The point is that a Machariel for 1B isk is also a vanity item, it's cheaper, and it sends the same message (I have plenty of money, look at me, I'm cool) more effectively. I'm not really seeing the incentive as a member of the target demographic for this to buy any of it.

I think in part that if there were more expensive items, and also cheaper items, there would be more of an incentive. As it is, it's all or nothing - and aside from the monocle noone will even see them. Most people won't even see the monocle, because who looks that close at portraits?

If I want to show off, I'll stick to faction ships, pirate implants, and bragging about skillpoints, at least for the time being.

sid pr0vid3nce
BALKAN EXPRESS
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:56:00 - [717]
 

Originally by: Spin Spin Sugar
******ed.

Pixels cost more than RL items....

Even more ******ed, pixel items that no one else can see because "Incarna" is just looking at your own backside...

When going for fail, might as well make it a big fail eh?

SPACESHIPS MUTHERFARKER...


omg so true Laughing

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 06:57:00 - [718]
 

Originally by: Agent 42

Quote:

Hey CCP how much aurum would I have to pay for a boob job on my character? I want GG cups Very Happy


Sorry CCP hasn't yet worked out how to convert our souls to Aur.



Except their own.

Quistis Noir
The Lotus Edge
Posted - 2011.06.22 07:00:00 - [719]
 

Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 22/06/2011 06:48:58

Some example for microtransactions in other games I play/used to play:

WoW (EU): Celestial Steed: 20

LoL (EU): any legendary skin: 1,820 RP ~ 9.7-10.8

WoT (US): Lowe tank: 7,500 gold ~ 30-41$

except for the monocle CCP's pricing does not seem to be grossly out of line for microtransactions...


The examples you gave are the high end premium items for those games. Their micro-transaction stores also have items on the low scale which start you paying money for in game items, gateway items you could say. When the average item in your store costs about the same as the premium items in other games, it says something may be off. And there are no gateway items in the store. I could buy 5$ boots which dont look that much different from ones that are available for free, and which no-one else but me will see, or I could buy multiple characters in LoL which I wouldnt have access to otherwise and open up more gameplay for me.

Xervish Krin
Posted - 2011.06.22 07:03:00 - [720]
 

Agreed, this is utterly ridiculous. I supported Incarna, I supported microtransactions, but I'll be damned if I'm paying 15 for a virtual shirt. Well done CCP, you've proven the naysayers right.


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