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Kerin Melak
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:56:00 - [511]
 

Originally by: Silver Night
Hell, I'm an RPer (and a bittervet who stays docked most times anyway, so I'm always looking at my character now and I have a lot of disposable IG income). We're the little dot in the middle of the target group for this sort of fluff.

When people like me aren't buying, it probably means almost noone is going to be buying. Confused


So very much this. Not only is this crap stupidly expensive (not all of us are making hundreds of millions of isk a month to buy plex in game), but all the "womens" clothes are horrible. I'd much rather have my avatar running around in those trousers and boots than a crappy two-tone skirt. Confused Though I admit that is an assumption based on them being labelled "mens" and "womens", since I'm not paying those prices to find out myself I could be completely wrong.

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:57:00 - [512]
 

T3 officer fit, terribad mercs, and poor scam schemes; and if all else fails... monocle smile!

Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:57:00 - [513]
 

Edited by: Chidori kun on 22/06/2011 02:58:40
psst some inform sites like IGN maybe then they get the message...

Mirage Excelsior
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:57:00 - [514]
 

Edited by: Mirage Excelsior on 22/06/2011 03:00:04
Originally by: Hockston Axe
Not even bankers are as greedy as you seem to have gotten. Your prices are beyond ridiculous.



My god that explains it! CCP hired the same bankers that crashed Icelands economy Shocked

EDIT: Wife raised a valid point, maybe this is all a smokescreen to deflect people from crying over the unscanable ship nerf?

Khamelean
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:58:00 - [515]
 

Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Khamelean
Just think of the items in the noble exchange as high end exclusive fashion. It's not that hard to find clothing that costs as much as a ferrari in the real world. Exclusive items are worth what people are willing to pay for them, when marketing exclusive items at people who buy super carriers by the dozen, you can afford to charge a lot.

It should be worth keeping in mind that if they made the NEX items too cheap it would over inflate the value of plex and deflate the value of isk. Large fleet battles sound far less impressive when you hear about how they destroyed a fleet of 100 capital ships with an equivalent real world cost of $3.50.


How would this deflate the value of PLEX? It would just make Aurum items affordable, used, and a minor PLEX sink, leaving PLEX prices mostly alone as they were before the stuff exists.


I said inflate the value of plex, not deflate it. Increased demand for limited supply increases cost.

Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:58:00 - [516]
 

Toanfoal:

I think you do make a good point, and it's one I made a few posts back too, about it being a good idea for there to be a few 'prestige' extremely expensive items, and a wide selection of much less expensive items. If there were any hint of that being the model CCP was pursuing in any of this, I might revise my opinion (though I think that the monocle is a bit ugly to make a good 'prestige' item in any case. YMMV.)

DRUGS
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:58:00 - [517]
 

Originally by: Graelyn
I do try my best to be the calm voice of reason when I post on these boards, but....

ARE YOU ON ******* DRUGS, CCP?


what you need?

Jim Aaltra
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:59:00 - [518]
 

I guess CCP so overstretched from developing Dust and WoD that this seems like a good idea. Hopefully if they do take off they'll show EVE the love it deserves and not ditch it for the fotm buck. At the moment all this shizzle is getting a bit tiresome..... Such a shame, a bit more focus and EVE could be and remain the ultimate game.

Carcosa Hali
True Slave Foundations
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:00:00 - [519]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
Just think of the items in the noble exchange as high end exclusive fashion. It's not that hard to find clothing that costs as much as a ferrari in the real world. Exclusive items are worth what people are willing to pay for them, when marketing exclusive items at people who buy super carriers by the dozen, you can afford to charge a lot.

It should be worth keeping in mind that if they made the NEX items too cheap it would over inflate the value of plex and deflate the value of isk. Large fleet battles sound far less impressive when you hear about how they destroyed a fleet of 100 capital ships with an equivalent real world cost of $3.50.


I would agree to that, if everyone was buying motherships for use in high-sec.. But the fact is, that there are no stations in 0.0, where people can afford to blow ludicrous ISK with little/no consequences..

But in high-sec where people actually have stations to play in, these items are ludicrously overpriced..

It's 02.54 on the 22nd, and there are NO eyewear sell orders in Amarr.. I expected the high money speculators would have them out, but so far No One has put them up for sale. Why?

Because the high-end traders in Eve realize when there is no market for such an item.

There is literally NO MARKET for cosmetic items at these prices.

Considering one could have 1.5 Nightmares for the cost of a monocle, who could blame them?

Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:00:00 - [520]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
Just think of the items in the noble exchange as high end exclusive fashion. It's not that hard to find clothing that costs as much as a ferrari in the real world. Exclusive items are worth what people are willing to pay for them, when marketing exclusive items at people who buy super carriers by the dozen, you can afford to charge a lot.



The stuff that goes for as high as a Ferrari in the RL world doesn't look like you'd have gotten it for $10 at Walmart, or even cheaper at a military surplus like those olive drab jackets.

What you'll be hard pressed to find is clothes costing more than aircraft carriers, which is the case for the current ones. Irrelevant of CCPs greed, disconnection with the player base etc, this is stupidly immersion breaking.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:02:00 - [521]
 

Originally by: Carcosa Hali


Considering one could have 1.5 Nightmares for the cost of a monocle, who could blame them?


It's the other way around. We're using the monocles as a unit of value measurement now.

What you mean to say is that a Nightmare costs you .75 monocles.

Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 - [522]
 

OK last post, for me

When i was on SiSi testing I played around with the clothes they where selling for what 2 to 3 AUR.
I was thinking ok if they set the prices around the range of 200 to 300 with peaks from 1000 for a special scorp well then they can make this a succes.

But no this is over the top

Chid

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 - [523]
 

This is silly and absurd.

CCP should take a look at cosmetic items IN DDO. Stuff ranges from 1 to 4 real life dollars.

Ivbeen Cloned
Caldari
Formidable Ops
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 - [524]
 

Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.


Carcosa Hali
True Slave Foundations
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 - [525]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Carcosa Hali


Considering one could have 1.5 Nightmares for the cost of a monocle, who could blame them?


It's the other way around. We're using the monocles as a unit of value measurement now.

What you mean to say is that a Nightmare costs you .75 monocles.


LOL... I accept your conversion. =DD

Alexei Antonov
Caldari
Morshu's Palace of Pain
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:05:00 - [526]
 

So for the use of a pixelated eyeball in one game, I could get carbon fiber 600mm heli blades....or another Lipo battery....or a reciever chip, pair of nice metric calipers, fill my car twice, have lunch for almost two weeks.... or a pc game off steam....

So this is a troll right? Because 90% of people I know in eve complain about being poor. So aside from the few fools who either have enough isk they don't care or the same person with no sense....

Again this was someone's drunk booboo right?....Right...?Confused

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:08:00 - [527]
 

quiet disturbing. these recent events are. ccp losing grip on reality.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:10:00 - [528]
 

Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned
Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.


have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?

Dimitri Fukoyama
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:11:00 - [529]
 

Originally by: Garia666
quiet disturbing. these recent events are. ccp losing grip on reality.



Dollar signs in her eyes

General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:13:00 - [530]
 

Originally by: davet517
I'm not getting the QQ here. Obviously, they mean for these things to be exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every year we have a tourney that generates cruisers and frigs that people buy for 20B and that they will never, ever fly.

So, not everyone gets to wear the monacle. It's a status symbol, like having an Adrestia in your hanger. If every other portrait you saw had one, nbd, but at these prices it'll be unusual. If that's the way CCP wants to play it V0V.


Because that 'monacle' costs $80 in a game we're already paying 15 a month for... and what does that Monacle even do? Least you can fly the ship if you wanted to, even if you don't, it actually DOES something.

This change is rip****. I can't believe they've added a new currency you have to PAY for at such a high cost in-game and this is a PAY PER MONTH GAME, not some stupid ass free to play 'there's an item shop' bull**** game. I pay to play because I want access to content. I don't play Free to Play micro-transaction games because I don't like being nickle'd and dime'd for every stupid little piece of **** in the game.

CCP has gone too far. This is totally insane and completely **** dumb.

Chigger Troutslayer
Internet Spaceship Gamers
RED Citizens
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:13:00 - [531]
 

On the bright side I am no longer worried that this will inflate the PLEX market because only the rich and the less bright folks among us will be buying up plex to convert to AUR and spend at these prices.

Wow... just WOW.

No way I'm spending more on Internetz pixel shirt than IRL shirt.

I would buy some stuff if it was reasonably priced, but this is just over priced. Or to put it in more familiar terms, LUDICROUSLY OVERPRICED.

Vernn Miller
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:14:00 - [532]
 

It`s really getting more and more obvious how the people that run this **** don`t actually play the game or know what the community needs and wants. With this last shenanigan the current CCP has shown it`s true money grabbing, nickel and diming face. Take the entire bizdev department out the back door and jet them into space as they are ****ing useless and each and everyone of them should consider taking up street sweeping as a future job.

And since this is a 18th page of this threadnaught without an official response, I can only imagine this has not been a mistake.


Ivbeen Cloned
Caldari
Formidable Ops
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 - [533]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned
Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.


have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?


I have not but I'll take your word for it.

General Xenophon
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 - [534]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned
Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.


have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?


yea but you pay 50 or whatever for TF2, then if you choose to you buy the extra crap you can, but its not a monthly fee game. You do know if CCP is allowed to go this micro-transaction games its only a matter of time before they add items that actually help your char or give stats. Eve is a pay to play game after paying the initial $20. What they're doing is having you pay to play, and then making you pay for some stupid **** item that doesn't actually DO anything, that doesn't matter, that doesn't mean ANYTHING, all because those jagholes want to make more money and give us **** in return.

Spacing Cowboy
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 - [535]
 

I am used to play microtransaction "games"
I don't mind spending rl money for pixel'ed gaming goody's
...

a plex+change for a t-**** ?

LOL

CCP , you added a 0 to much ?

One advantage tho, i won't need to even -think- about converting plex into
that aurum ****e Razz

Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:19:00 - [536]
 

Honestly, I'd like CCP to make money. I've played for a long time, and I want them to continue expanding the game. I'm excited to see what else they are going to do.

But a cursory knowledge of economics suggest that their concern should be $ per item released rather than per item sold, since new copies of an item in a database cost pretty much nothing, whereas creating an item is probably a (relatively) expensive activity.

So it makes a lot more sense to sell 20 units (Or 30, or 50, or 100) of an item at $5 each than 1 unit for $50.

All of that is, in a nutshell, what the economics of micro-transactions are. That goes hand-in-hand with the psychological side, which is that people are much more likely to make a $5 impulse buy than a $50 one.

That's what makes this entire thing so baffling. The problem isn't that CCP is being greedy. If they were being greedy (or at least being greedy correctly), the item prices would be much lower. Instead, it just looks like they are being stupid, which makes no sense given how many intelligent people seem to work there, and how many resources they've put into this.

Svetlana Kerensky
Caldari
The Black Bha'lir
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:22:00 - [537]
 

/me takes a look into the clothes store , looks again, and after rechecking the prices a third time knows CCP has lost it completely

cmon CCP, prices this high???? at 200-400 aurum things would be cool , but at these prices you're store is a deadborn

cragz
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:23:00 - [538]
 

wow this is turning into a MT ... Monster Thread about Monstertransactions!.

Did I mention earlier that I would luv to pay huge sums of in RL cash for a full skill respec ?

Heres my $40 CCP i'm waving infront of your nose, come get it, you know you want it.....

Hildegaard Russell
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:23:00 - [539]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
Originally by: Ivbeen Cloned
Theres really not much to say here, I mean it's hilarious that CCP thinks that people would actually pay this much RL money for some clothes in a game that was never met to have clothes in the first palce.


have you even seen how much money valve has made from TF2 microtransactions?


People have to buy the stuff in the first place for them to make money. I'd buy a plex and break it to outfit a character or two. That's cash CCP would get from me. I won't buy a plex to buy one item.

I want to give CCP money for vanity items. They've made a business decision that means I won't. They could have made money off me, and now they won't. I can't think I'm the only one who CCP'd profit off if the prices were lower but who won't get past the entry barrier of lolridiculous costs.


Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.22 03:25:00 - [540]
 

Originally by: Soryn Kael
The monocle shows up on your portrait right?


If so.. it's the absolute perfect item to rub it in people's faces that you have more isk than they do..


The rich are not rich because they are stupid.


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