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Chidori kun
Minmatar
Starship Operating BastardZ
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:31:00 - [481]
 

Edited by: Chidori kun on 22/06/2011 02:33:39
Originally by: sixfortyk
Sinks and Faucets

You guys do realise that you can buy PLEX with ISK yeah?

Go out and make some ISK, buy PLEX on the market and spend it on in game items if you cant afford the RL cash. While you are doing that the folk who have already done said task will be creating a demand for the PLEX while satiating their peacock needs with monocles and the like.

If you weren't jealous them the fashion market would fail - so maybe its not broken after all



Yes and then??

PLEX for ISK to get 30 days I fully can understand but to buy 3 PLEX with ISK to get a golden ball stuffed in my eye socket.... is useful???

I like the look of the new characters but not that much...

Even if you can buy PLEX with ISK fact remains PLEX has a monetary value because it's bought and payed for...

Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:32:00 - [482]
 

MONEY GRABBING DESPERADOS

Luke S
Zeta Corp.
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:32:00 - [483]
 

I think CCP forgot the whole idea of microtransactions is the fact that its Micro as in cheap stuff.

Ellina Alleron
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:33:00 - [484]
 

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Sucks to be anyone who wanted to custimize anything. Ill be the one shooting your pod and bathing in the tears when CCP makes this stuff destructable. Cant wait to see the, "WTF!! I spent $200 on those clothes!" in local.

Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:33:00 - [485]
 

Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste

Mistakes happen, but lately there have been no mistakes, but legitimately poor choice making.


Because of this guy: CCP Zinfandel(Aka Assbag)


Irony is he has the Monocle and worked at Meridian 59. If you knew about Meridian 59 you will probably realize the way EVE is heading, which is not a good place. Over and over you can see the SEVERE lack of FORESIGHT and POOR CHOICE MAKING EVE has been making lately. This is not the CCP we used to know, this simply is some kind of faceless entity that just wants to eat people's money.

Who knows? In a year we might get purchaseable skill points packs to apply to skills of our choice , how the mighty have fallen tsk,tsk,tsk.

Your Stuff
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:33:00 - [486]
 

Originally by: Chewiest Bong

Because of this guy: CCP Zinfandel(Aka Assbag)


$60 says he didn't buy his monocle. It was probably given to him by the guy who stuck a **** in his eye.

Marwood Ford
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:34:00 - [487]
 

Originally by: Shereza
There isn't even anything in the lineup worth buying now so why so serious?

I'll grant it's not a good precedent and dosn't bode well for future item prices when useful items become available... I find the prices to be absurdly high.


Kind of answered your own question, Shereza. Most people here aren't nerdraging any more than you are.

Jaya
Caldari
Brothers At Arms
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:35:00 - [488]
 

I agree, the prices are insane and i for one will not be supporting this system. Your blowing it CCP. Sad

Nak hak
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:35:00 - [489]
 

Edited by: Nak hak on 22/06/2011 02:35:38
Was planning on WIS in underwear and flip-flops. Damn, hate to think about how much a pair of flop-flops are going to cost. ugh

Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:37:00 - [490]
 

At least if you show info on someone and they have a monocle, you know that you probably found a good scam target.

Meldrich
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 - [491]
 

Edited by: Meldrich on 22/06/2011 02:53:10
Not bright CCP, at all. I'm still trying to figure out where all the money is going, 'cause for what you are charging I expect one expansion per month or maybe every 2 months.

By the way, fire your marketing and sales director CCP Zinfandel while you are at it, because after the monetizing debacle and this one you've lost ALOT of you credibility, seriously rethinking if I should renew my sub.

Scruffy Sandra
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 - [492]
 

Originally by: Silver Night
At least if you show info on someone and they have a monocle, you know that you probably found a good scam target.


hahaha so true

Borameir
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 - [493]
 

Out of curiosity, how would this effect PLEX prices in game? If PLEX costs something like 350-400m ISK now, how much higher would you expect the PLEX go up if these vanity items were much less?

Could it be that this is a good thing to prevent the in game ISK market from going crazy? I honestly don't know, just curious.

Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:40:00 - [494]
 

With CCP's idea of MT pricing, I can't wait to see what happens with Dust 514. What do you mean I get a slingshot as basic gear and a rifle cost $50!

Cooper Anderson Stewart
Caldari
Casalt Corp
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:40:00 - [495]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

This is pretty damned ridiculous.

Play eve for a month for free or buy a women's "impress" dress skirt?

The prices for these "virtual goods" are a joke.



I'd suggest your dev who said during the alliance tournament was working on microtransactions and other games look at the real dollar value of vanity items. They should be pennies on the dollar not upwards of actual real life cost. I can buy actual shoes for less real dollars than aurem/plex equivalents. I know it's a first rollout and I'm patient but when nothing is selling, don't take it as a feature no one wants but rather something people won't use because the prices are unbalanced.

Dimitri Fukoyama
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:40:00 - [496]
 

CCP Zinfandel's motto on his profile:

If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.


Judicator Saturnius
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:41:00 - [497]
 

I must find someone who's already kitted out in the new garb.

Where are the rich suckers around here?

helmut cheddar
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:42:00 - [498]
 

Originally by: Dimitri Fukoyama
CCP Zinfandel's motto on his profile:

If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.





fo real ??

Kurj Valdoria
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:43:00 - [499]
 

Originally by: helmut cheddar
Originally by: Dimitri Fukoyama
CCP Zinfandel's motto on his profile:

If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.





fo real ??



Yeah, I assume they'll make him change that soon.

Toanfoal
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 - [500]
 

Originally by: Silver Night
If I want to show off, I can just fly a Machariel, and you know what?

More people will see it.

Anyway, it isn't really the cost itself, so much as the huge disconnect between CCP and the player base that it implies, and what it might say about who is driving things over at CCP at the moment. Until now, I'd felt fairly confident it was the people actually making the game.

CCP, when they have screwed up in the past, have done so mostly in being careless or over-reaching - even with things like boot.ini. I've been there for all those screw-ups, and they didn't worry me as much as this one, because they didn't seem like just plain stupidity like this one does.


But now you're comparing apples and oranges.

The Mach is an actual tool in the Eve universe - you can use it to more efficiently kill, and you can also lose it.

The monocle (or whatever) is not a tool. It serves absolutely no function other than being a fashion accessory, and you aren't risking it by being seen with it (whether you're risking whatever ship you're flying is another question, but that reaction alone will be of great value to some, I'm sure).

And I think a very brief examination of the real fashion industry will show you that it does one thing and one thing only - constantly produce new, eye-catching stuff that is overpriced, for the simple purpose of displaying to others that you have what it takes to be dressed in the latest best.

Is it stupid? Yes - I personally think that it is completely inane. I still wear clothes that I bought 5-10 years ago, and I'm sure they were lame then.

But I'm not filthy rich, I don't run in those circles, I'm not trying to impress anyone, and I really couldn't care less.


Who I am in Eve, though, is another issue entirely. Maybe I want to be the rich guy, flaunting the ridiculous, latest fashion - and I can do it all just with in-game isk.


Pricing these things so that everyone could have them would've merely made them into additional character customization - nothing special at all, really. I realize many people wanted more customization (and they have a point), and I think that CCP did make a mistake by not including a whole range of much cheaper, but less cool, fashion options in addition to the ridiculous stuff.

Nonetheless, CCP has introduced to us another flavor of the 'upper class' of Eve. So, of course, the peasants are rioting.



Harold Tuphlos
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 - [501]
 

snicker @ ccp.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 - [502]
 

CCP...They're called microtransactions for a reason.

Khamelean
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:49:00 - [503]
 

Just think of the items in the noble exchange as high end exclusive fashion. It's not that hard to find clothing that costs as much as a ferrari in the real world. Exclusive items are worth what people are willing to pay for them, when marketing exclusive items at people who buy super carriers by the dozen, you can afford to charge a lot.

It should be worth keeping in mind that if they made the NEX items too cheap it would over inflate the value of plex and deflate the value of isk. Large fleet battles sound far less impressive when you hear about how they destroyed a fleet of 100 capital ships with an equivalent real world cost of $3.50.

Zelphinine
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:53:00 - [504]
 

Sent an email to Ars Technica (my computer emag of choice) regarding all this, though looks like Massive's already on the case.

Hroya
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:53:00 - [505]
 

A whole lot of rage about a feature a legion of players were against from the start allready.
So how much exactly does it matter if the prices for vanity items are over the top or not when the concept of micro transactions was allready frowned upon from the get go ?

It's not a mandatory feature to use ( at this point ) so why you all rage and scream here is beyond me.
When stuff like this does become mandatory i can understand public rage and turning your back on the game.

Dont like it, dont use it. It's not ccp that keeps a feature alive, it's the customers that participate in it so perhaps it's a good angle to look at the customers not the suppliers.


Silver Night
Caldari
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 - [506]
 

Originally by: Toanfoal
Originally by: Silver Night
If I want to show off, I can just fly a Machariel, and you know what?

More people will see it.

Anyway, it isn't really the cost itself, so much as the huge disconnect between CCP and the player base that it implies, and what it might say about who is driving things over at CCP at the moment. Until now, I'd felt fairly confident it was the people actually making the game.

CCP, when they have screwed up in the past, have done so mostly in being careless or over-reaching - even with things like boot.ini. I've been there for all those screw-ups, and they didn't worry me as much as this one, because they didn't seem like just plain stupidity like this one does.


But now you're comparing apples and oranges.

The Mach is an actual tool in the Eve universe - you can use it to more efficiently kill, and you can also lose it.

The monocle (or whatever) is not a tool. It serves absolutely no function other than being a fashion accessory, and you aren't risking it by being seen with it (whether you're risking whatever ship you're flying is another question, but that reaction alone will be of great value to some, I'm sure).

And I think a very brief examination of the real fashion industry will show you that it does one thing and one thing only - constantly produce new, eye-catching stuff that is overpriced, for the simple purpose of displaying to others that you have what it takes to be dressed in the latest best.

Is it stupid? Yes - I personally think that it is completely inane. I still wear clothes that I bought 5-10 years ago, and I'm sure they were lame then.

But I'm not filthy rich, I don't run in those circles, I'm not trying to impress anyone, and I really couldn't care less.


Who I am in Eve, though, is another issue entirely. Maybe I want to be the rich guy, flaunting the ridiculous, latest fashion - and I can do it all just with in-game isk.


Pricing these things so that everyone could have them would've merely made them into additional character customization - nothing special at all, really. I realize many people wanted more customization (and they have a point), and I think that CCP did make a mistake by not including a whole range of much cheaper, but less cool, fashion options in addition to the ridiculous stuff.

Nonetheless, CCP has introduced to us another flavor of the 'upper class' of Eve. So, of course, the peasants are rioting.





See, the thing is though, I am filthy rich IG, or at least, rich enough where these prices on their own aren't really a detriment to me. I still think that the Mach would make that statement - if I felt like making it - more efficiently than the monocle.

Incidentally, being able to risk losing faction stuff is a very good way of advertising how e-rich you are.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 - [507]
 

Originally by: Khamelean
Just think of the items in the noble exchange as high end exclusive fashion. It's not that hard to find clothing that costs as much as a ferrari in the real world. Exclusive items are worth what people are willing to pay for them, when marketing exclusive items at people who buy super carriers by the dozen, you can afford to charge a lot.

It should be worth keeping in mind that if they made the NEX items too cheap it would over inflate the value of plex and deflate the value of isk. Large fleet battles sound far less impressive when you hear about how they destroyed a fleet of 100 capital ships with an equivalent real world cost of $3.50.


How would this deflate the value of PLEX? It would just make Aurum items affordable, used, and a minor PLEX sink, leaving PLEX prices mostly alone as they were before the stuff exists.

Hockston Axe
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:55:00 - [508]
 

And I thought that Civ 5 trying to charge $5 for a new civilization was an insane greed fueled money grab... are you high? are you drunk? do you think your players are stupid? are you insane? or are you just stupid CCP?

Not even bankers are as greedy as you seem to have gotten. Your prices are beyond ridiculous.

Scruffy Sandra
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:55:00 - [509]
 

Originally by: Hroya
A whole lot of rage about a feature a legion of players were against from the start allready.
So how much exactly does it matter if the prices for vanity items are over the top or not when the concept of micro transactions was allready frowned upon from the get go ?

It's not a mandatory feature to use ( at this point ) so why you all rage and scream here is beyond me.
When stuff like this does become mandatory i can understand public rage and turning your back on the game.

Dont like it, dont use it. It's not ccp that keeps a feature alive, it's the customers that participate in it so perhaps it's a good angle to look at the customers not the suppliers.




Its the Principal, instead of a PVP space game we get CCP begging us for cash.

Wrayeth
EdgeGamers
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.06.22 02:55:00 - [510]
 

Edited by: Wrayeth on 22/06/2011 02:57:58
I want to believe this is an instance of epic trolling where CCP is poking fun at all of those players who shouted "The sky is falling!" when they announced there would be a cash shop for vanity items only. However, I don't think this is a joke, and that saddens me to no end. I used to have a lot of faith in CCP as a company that, while in business to make money, were out to make a great game. This makes me doubt that is true, anymore. Unfortunately, I expect we're going to have to wait for the devs to wake up tomorrow before we find out for certain.

(For the record, I'm vehemently against cash shops for items with actual game effects. As a result, I didn't give a damn one way or another about the EVE cash shop until I read about the ridiculous Aurum prices for the vanity items.)

EDIT: Incomprehensible grammar.


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