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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: DamnS Saken
How many of em are we gonna geT?



None, expansions are Free™.

Jered Transer
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: DamnS Saken
How many of em are we gonna geT?



It doesnt matter. I will still have more than you.


Now thats cold.
I lol'd

Etheoma
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [33]
 

i just put in the final 2 support skills for logistics so i will be training for like 5 days so in that sence it doesnt matter about the down time but in the isk sence i think they should give us isk because i could have made 500 - 1 bill isk in this downtime

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:28:00 - [34]
 

NO WARRANTIES
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CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

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khac
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:28:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Ty Padecain
Well if you forgot to set long skilltraining right before patch-day, you're kind of a n00b anyways... Why reward that with free skillpoints?



The noobs are the ones who need skillpoints the most YARRRR!!

Chronos Chi
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven
Originally by: Chronos Chi
I HATE THESE ****ING THREADS EVERY TIME EVE GOES OFF LINE FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.

WE GET A FREE ****ING GAME, FREE NEW CONTENT AND UPDATES

YES WE PAY A SUBSCRIPTION BUT THATS PEANUTS A MONTH EVEN LESS IF YOU BUY 3/6/12 MONTHS AT A TIME

LINK YOUR ADDRESS AND I'LL SEND YOU A CHEQUE FOR 24HRS OF GAME TIME Twisted Evil


Who are you to say whether the sub is expensive or not?

And it's been over 12 ****ing hours not just 30 minutes.


I suppose I have been lucky I have been working all day and have only just finished and your right "Who am I to say its not expensive or not"

But come on aren't you sick of threads like this?

We don't need skill point refunds as we continue to accumulate sp when the server is down. We don't need reimbursement for not being able to play as CCP are giving us something for free.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: DamnS Saken
How many of em are we gonna geT?




HERE IT IS! THE THREAD EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WAITING FOR!




I had excpected this a few hours ago. The community is starting to slack off i guess.

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [38]
 

People seriously need to get a life and chill out.

When a new expansion or patch comes out and is over 500 MB of space, that is hundreds if not thousands of hours of working to make that possible.

IF you know nothing of what online gaming actually requires in proper communication/organization/execution to make things like this work, ESPECIALLY adding new game-play things (like from not being able to get out of your ship to being able to do so), then realize that it is a HUGE undertaking with a HUGE repertoire for potential issues/bugs/mistakes.

They say it will be online at a certain time for a best case scenario and 85% of the time, these things do not work out the best way they are supposed to. Get used to it!

The best thing to do is:
1.Explain to me what skill point compensation is and how it works.
2.Go watch a movie or find one of those free mmo's online like D&D[[[https://trial.turbine.com/ddo.php?ftui=DDODefault&utm_source=Google_Search&utm_medium=Text&utm_campaign=DDOFree+to+Play+US%2C+CA&referral=127284]]] or some other, and play that for a few hours while you wait.

DamnS Saken
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: DamnS Saken on 21/06/2011 20:33:03
Originally by: Will Darkartist
People seriously need to get a life and chill out.

When a new expansion or patch comes out and is over 500 MB of space, that is hundreds if not thousands of hours of working to make that possible.

IF you know nothing of what online gaming actually requires in proper communication/organization/execution to make things like this work, ESPECIALLY adding new game-play things (like from not being able to get out of your ship to being able to do so), then realize that it is a HUGE undertaking with a HUGE repertoire for potential issues/bugs/mistakes.
i guess i'll just biomass myself nao :D

LOL get a life? i already lost it to eve

They say it will be online at a certain time for a best case scenario and 85% of the time, these things do not work out the best way they are supposed to. Get used to it!

The best thing to do is:
1.Explain to me what skill point compensation is and how it works.
2.Go watch a movie or find one of those free mmo's online like D&D[[[https://trial.turbine.com/ddo.php?ftui=DDODefault&utm_source=Google_Search&utm_medium=Text&utm_campaign=DDOFree+to+Play+US%2C+CA&referral=127284]]] or some other, and play that for a few hours while you wait.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.

CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.


I payed for 30 game time, doesn't that mean i'm entitled to 30 days game time?

Chronos Chi
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Chronos Chi on 21/06/2011 20:35:31
Originally by: Will Darkartist
People seriously need to get a life and chill out.

When a new expansion or patch comes out and is over 500 MB of space, that is hundreds if not thousands of hours of working to make that possible.

IF you know nothing of what online gaming actually requires in proper communication/organization/execution to make things like this work, ESPECIALLY adding new game-play things (like from not being able to get out of your ship to being able to do so), then realize that it is a HUGE undertaking with a HUGE repertoire for potential issues/bugs/mistakes.

They say it will be online at a certain time for a best case scenario and 85% of the time, these things do not work out the best way they are supposed to. Get used to it!

The best thing to do is:
1.Explain to me what skill point compensation is and how it works.
2.Go watch a movie or find one of those free mmo's online like D&D[[[https://trial.turbine.com/ddo.php?ftui=DDODefault&utm_source=Google_Search&utm_medium=Text&utm_campaign=DDOFree+to+Play+US%2C+CA&referral=127284]]] or some other, and play that for a few hours while you wait.


Fixed that for you

LINK



/me wanders of to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R - SOC

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [42]
 

People seriously need to get a life and chill out.

When a new expansion or patch comes out and is over 500 MB of space, that is hundreds if not thousands of hours of working to make that possible.

IF you know nothing of what online gaming actually requires in proper communication/organization/execution to make things like this work, ESPECIALLY adding new game-play things (like from not being able to get out of your ship to being able to do so), then realize that it is a HUGE undertaking with a HUGE repertoire for potential issues/bugs/mistakes.

They say it will be online at a certain time for a best case scenario and 85% of the time, these things do not work out the best way they are supposed to. Get used to it!

The best thing to do is:
1.Explain to me what skill point compensation is and how it works.
2.Go watch a movie or find one of those free mmo's online like D&D[[[https://trial.turbine.com/ddo.php?ftui=DDODefault&utm_source=Google_Search&utm_medium=Text&utm_campaign=DDOFree+to+Play+US%2C+CA&referral=127284]]] or some other, and play that for a few hours while you wait.

Xervish Krin
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [43]
 

God I hate this attitude people have that whenever they are inconvenienced or something negative happens that they are entitled to free stuff to make it up to them. Perhaps you'd like small forest animals to deliver a complimentary fruit basket whenever it rains as well?

Etheoma
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:37:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.

CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.


I was not saying that i expected money or skill points i was just lamenting the fact that its your own damn fault if you where silly enough not to put skill in the training queue for at least 10 hours if not 24 hours, but you cant make isk whilst the game is offline until your moon mining with a POS or doing PI i had wanted to do a lot of sites today and probably lost out on like i said 500m to 1 bill because of this downtime and i think if CCP where to give the players anything it should be isk for time lost, but i don't expect it and am not terribly bothered.

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:38:00 - [45]
 

Sorry for the multiple, did not mean to do that, again, I apologizre.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:41:00 - [46]
 

And anyone who has been playing eve for 1+ years knew this was going to happen, and they knew to set a 25day + skill. Right now Im laughing at the op and drinking a mt dew.

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:41:00 - [47]
 

Ethomea, your exactly right. I still do not understand skill point compensation, but hey, there is nothing we can do about the down time but ***** and moan, and us here in the USA are fuggin' great at that. I just hate to see whiners get their way. Anyways, yea, I'd way rather get ISK for compensation rather than something about skill-points I don't yet understand... someone...please... explain... skill-point compensation please?

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Chronos Chi
Originally by: Rek Seven
Originally by: Chronos Chi
I HATE THESE ****ING THREADS EVERY TIME EVE GOES OFF LINE FOR MORE THAN 30 MINUTES.

WE GET A FREE ****ING GAME, FREE NEW CONTENT AND UPDATES

YES WE PAY A SUBSCRIPTION BUT THATS PEANUTS A MONTH EVEN LESS IF YOU BUY 3/6/12 MONTHS AT A TIME

LINK YOUR ADDRESS AND I'LL SEND YOU A CHEQUE FOR 24HRS OF GAME TIME Twisted Evil


hours not just 30 minutes.


I suppose I have been lucky I have been working all day and have only just finished and your right "Who am I to say its not expensive or not"

But come on aren't you sick of threads like this?

We don't need skill point refunds as we continue to accumulate sp when the server is down. We don't need reimbursement for not being able to play as CCP are giving us something for free.



I agree, we shouldn't get skill points as our skill are still training but i think they should extend our game time when they have un expected down time. That extra time could have been the difference for someone to earn enough money to buy a plex before their sub runs out.

I wouldn't call these updates free. We pay for them with our subs. If i had to pay for incursion (which i have yet to experience) i would have probably cancelled my sub by now.

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 - [49]
 

How would you get a 25 day training period, is there mods for Eve? I didn't think so.... that sucks if you guys are using mods, I consider it cheating and I frown upon that heavily. When I get more skilled I will come after people like you. Unless I just don't understand how a 25day training period is possible without cheating? Is it? How?

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven


And it's been over 12 ****ing hours not just 30 minutes.


Um go outside and enjoy the real world. If you get this irked over internet spaceships you might have an addiction problem.

Kravasher Prime
Amarr
We Could Be Heroes
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Kravasher Prime on 21/06/2011 20:47:23
@Will Darkartist

There are skills that take up to 30 Days. I put in Heavy Missiles V the other night. It runs for 11 days for my char.

Shocked

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Probably Alt
Originally by: Rek Seven


And it's been over 12 ****ing hours not just 30 minutes.


Um go outside and enjoy the real world. If you get this irked over internet spaceships you might have an addiction problem.



I openly admit i have an addiction to eve and i think ccp should do something to help people like me... but that is a story for another thread. Smile

Probably Alt
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Will Darkartist
How would you get a 25 day training period, is there mods for Eve? I didn't think so.... that sucks if you guys are using mods, I consider it cheating and I frown upon that heavily. When I get more skilled I will come after people like you. Unless I just don't understand how a 25day training period is possible without cheating? Is it? How?


You're trying way too hard -1/10

Rui Morin
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Etheoma
i just put in the final 2 support skills for logistics so i will be training for like 5 days so in that sence it doesnt matter about the down time but in the isk sence i think they should give us isk because i could have made 500 - 1 bill isk in this downtime


But it is the same for everyone so you are no worse off. Unless CCP buy all my stuff off the market when they are floating around testing it all works on TQ :P

Op, if you didn't set a long skill on a major patch day with huge amounts of notice this was coming then wtf? If you did why are you whining about needing free skill points? Either way, you won't be getting any.

Conor Todaki
Pure Evil Warriors
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 - [55]
 

CCP release an expansion and you want more.

Captain Zone
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [56]
 

Oh no!!! I only set a 5 day skill plan!!!! ughughugh

Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Zag''mar Jurkar on 21/06/2011 20:50:35
Originally by: Etheoma
Originally by: Zag'mar Jurkar
NO WARRANTIES
The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.

CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software.

While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.


I was not saying that i expected money or skill points i was just lamenting the fact that its your own damn fault if you where silly enough not to put skill in the training queue for at least 10 hours if not 24 hours, but you cant make isk whilst the game is offline until your moon mining with a POS or doing PI i had wanted to do a lot of sites today and probably lost out on like i said 500m to 1 bill because of this downtime and i think if CCP where to give the players anything it should be isk for time lost, but i don't expect it and am not terribly bothered.


It was directed towards people whining about extended downtime, on a PATCH DAY nonetheless, and that expect CCP to give them free stuff for things they could have planned better.

Yes it sucks that EVERYONE (note here: you do not make money, yes, but nobody else makes money, so you do not get behind) can't login and do stuff that require to be logged in to do. It is an inconvenience that everybody here agreed on. I bet they could have a week+ downtime and there is nothing we could do about it, and they wouldn't have to give us anything to compensate.

Will Darkartist
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [58]
 

Why is it so hard for people to understand that Eve is NOT a child's game and you have to actually get a JOB in Eve if you want to make enough ISK to experience the game properly (though "properly is subjective"). If you cannot pay for Eve on your own in real cash, you need to find a lucrative career in Eve to pay for your PLEX.

Now I would join EVE UNIVERSITY and take some classes and learn how to do that. There are also many ways in real life to make the money to play Eve. I wouldn;t recmmend playing Eve until you have enough money to buy at least 3 months of game-time and a PLEX to sell for ISK to get started. You have many die-hard people out there with billions of ISK who make thier characters so bad ass that if you try and pvp, or do many things earning ISK in a normal fashion, without trading PLEX for ISK etc.

Basically these, what I call "Eve-twinks", will always kick your ass and own you at everything. Keep playing your 21 day/or 14 day trials till you can buy at least 2 months of Eve and a PLEX to trade for ISK, you will be a much more helpful and happy player.

Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [59]
 

Every SP is welcome. We can't play again for yet another patch/update/extended downtime/node crash/bug/expansion reason. Giving us a little SP can't do any harm in my opinion.

janet calder
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
And anyone who has been playing eve for 1+ years knew this was going to happen, and they knew to set a 25day + skill. Right now Im laughing at the op and drinking a mt dew.
Whats in the mount dew?? lol


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