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Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:45:00 - [1]
 

So if the Multiverse concept is correct, then the world of eve could really exist.....somewhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Yea im bored right now guys

Dr Larry Goldstein
Charybdis Laboratories
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [2]
 

Read the very basic plotline of EVE and be surprised.

Halbert Vector
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:50:00 - [3]
 

Maybe it even exists in our universe.

Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:55:00 - [4]
 

Man think, so hard, reality, exist, here, hurt mind, go crazy.....me smash.....yea lets be ant brain, much better now

Johnny Wander
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:57:00 - [5]
 

Very good, you've taken the first step.
Now realize this concept applies to all fiction, ever.

OverlordY
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:57:00 - [6]
 

We also still do not know if our own universe is infinite :)

AC Carborundum
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:58:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Renard Voltaire
So if the Multiverse concept is correct, then the world of eve could really exist.....somewhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Yea im bored right now guys


On behalf of Cald.... er... the governing body that you answer to, I demand that you cease and desist in this baseless discussion. There is no New Eden and there are no Caldari.
By the by, just studying my astrometrics, where is France exactly? And if one were to view them from above, which regions would best be considered "strategic" ... I'd just like to know before I clone, (do they clone or do they still fly?) over for vacation.

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.06.21 19:59:00 - [8]
 

Perhaps we are just the universe in which there are no parallel universes?

Saskie Castillo
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:02:00 - [9]
 

So if the Multiverse concept is correct, then our world could really exist in a future iteration of eve....

Gaoman Nosconian
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:04:00 - [10]
 

Eve and Earth in one universe.. brilliant!

Does no-one read lore? :P

Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:08:00 - [11]
 

I can see it now, I could either be a capsuleer or a caldari worker living in mud...I know which one I'm more likely to be :P

Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:09:00 - [12]
 

Im afraid

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 - [13]
 

What if every atom in our universe is another universe, and our universe is merely an atom in an even greater universe, so on and so forth? And every time atoms are split another universe is literally destroyed.

I have too much free time.

Halbert Vector
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:18:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Johnny Wander
Very good, you've taken the first step.
Now realize this concept applies to all fiction, ever.


Well, moreso for science fiction, ideally.

elenasa
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 - [15]
 

Hmm...

...if the universe is infinite, how can it be expanding?

...and if it's expanding, what is outside it for it to expand into?


..and if it ever contracts again, what happens to all the space?




Wink

Pou Tau
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:21:00 - [16]
 

Do not seed the idea of creating an Eve Trammell.

Ori Empress
United Systems of the Allegiance
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 - [17]
 

Imagine a universe where CCP actually released patches on time without extended downtimes and where botting was non-existent and all of us sitting around a camp fire singing kumbaya!

Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [18]
 

It an alternate universe where im rich sitting on a big pile of money surrounded by beautiful women.......the patch was released on time.......

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Maplestone on 21/06/2011 20:34:28
Originally by: Discrodia
I have too much free time.


*takes away Discordia's copy of "Horton Hears a Who"*

(actually if you look at (at least one of) the latest models of the expansion of the universe, the visible horizon of the universe is mathematically identical to the event horizon of a black hole - so (if the model holds up) one way of looking at the big bang would be as the inside-out view of the initial formation of a black hole inside a larger universe)

*edit - added uncertainty; not all models agree

DuKackBoon
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: elenasa
Hmm...

...if the universe is infinite, how can it be expanding?

...and if it's expanding, what is outside it for it to expand into?


..and if it ever contracts again, what happens to all the space?

Wink


1/2: Into nothing, and it's not infinite, at least, we think. If not: Adding more to infinity doesn't make it bigger.

3: Will be compressed into a singularity.


Also, the universe of EVE DOES exist in some alternate universe, simply because can imagine it.




Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [21]
 

This messing with my head!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow

NASA's Goddard Space Center confirmed this could be the effects of a sibling universe or a region of space-time fundamentally different from the observable universe. Data on more than 1,000 galaxy clusters have been measured, including some as distant as 3 billion light-years. Alexander Kashlinsky claims these measurements show the universe's steady flow is clearly not a statistical fluke. Said Kashlinsky: "At this point we don't have enough information to see what it is, or to constrain it. We can only say with certainty that somewhere very far away the world is very different than what we see locally. Whether it's 'another universe' or a different fabric of space-time we don't know

Aubrey Addams
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: elenasa
Hmm...

...if the universe is infinite, how can it be expanding?

...and if it's expanding, what is outside it for it to expand into?

..and if it ever contracts again, what happens to all the space?

Wink


space and time is not two different thing, it's just one thing called "spacetime", so there is nothing outside the universe (spacetime) ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime )

secondly if it contracts again, you will die. let the game begin...

this is also interesting:

http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/

Korah Arnelle
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:37:00 - [23]
 

We start with a point. Cool

Ben Alman
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:41:00 - [24]
 

The problem is. If the existence is infinite (be it one infinite universe, infinite number of universes, infinite amount of time etc) then every non zero possibility has to exist somewhere.
So there has to be another Sol system/Universe/Earth out there where everything is completely identical to ours but me not writing a post here.

Think about it, it makes your brain hurt ;)

Skinae
Hello Kitty Hug Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:44:00 - [25]
 

People without Ph.D's shouldnt be allowed to talk theoretical physics.

Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [26]
 

Oh i get it, our characters are playing that boring game of "Earth, the Sims game" staring you! You pay bills and drive a "Car" in a premitive world, post on fourms, and things like that........

Or my character is asleep, having a strange dream of me or something

Ok yea they need to hurry and deploy that patch

Verizana
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [27]
 

Eve is real isn't it? fly out in my car all the time. oh wait

Lugia3
Gallente
Triangular Initiative
STR8NGE BREW
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:48:00 - [28]
 

New Eden is in the same universe. I dont remember where I read this though... Once a bright dot apreared in the sky for a few months about a century before the capsuleers were born. That dot was the gate closing in our galaxy.

So thats about 7000 years after it closed so the New Eden cluster must be about 7000 light years away.

Renard Voltaire
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Renard Voltaire on 21/06/2011 20:50:31
Originally by: Skinae
People without Ph.D's shouldnt be allowed to talk theoretical physics.


Perhaps theoretical physics and the Metaphysics should combine

Now that would make some strange results

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.06.21 20:53:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Maplestone on 21/06/2011 21:00:17
Originally by: Ben Alman
The problem is. If the existence is infinite (be it one infinite universe, infinite number of universes, infinite amount of time etc) then every non zero possibility has to exist somewhere.


Incorrect. There are an infinite number of even numbers, but 3 isn't one of them.

*(edit - er, you could quibble that 3 has a "zero possibility", but then your statement becomes a tautalogy - everything that doesn't exist in your multiverse, by definition had zero possibility)

Infinity is disturbingly complicated subject - once you try to define infinity mathematically, you discover there are even different sizes of infinity.


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