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Dr Larry Goldstein
Charybdis Laboratories
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:20:00 - [91]
 

My Fermi GPU burnt down my house and killed my dog.

Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:21:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Not-Apsalar on 21/06/2011 14:22:52
Originally by: Taipan Leviathan

The ignorance towards AMD/ATI is staggering here, You sound like a bunch of Console fanboys!


Which is funny since I see some of the same people here that have *****ed about PS3 lock-in instead of 360 while the 360 runs an ATi card

Originally by: Mikal Morataya
Rather than all the fanboy flaming, can someone describe what will be different losing this feature on my ATI card, worse performance? Worse looking game?


It's going to be possibly slightly better performance for a slightly worse look

Benri Konpaku
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:23:00 - [93]
 

Considering the quality of Nvidia fanboys' (and maybe marketing alts) posts so far it's very evident why they fell for the PPU scam. Laughing

But anyway, unless CCP actually implements multithreading support for software Physx and other improvements supposedly made available to developers by Nvidia there can be a very noticeable and sometimes unplayable drops in performance due to intentionally crippled Physx. Just as it has happened in all those other crappy Physx games out there. and in the end that is all I care about and what will affect my decision to continue playing or not.

coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:24:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Euph... The SSAO is NVidia code, we’ve seen artifacts on ATI cards.


answer from CCP(in the deployment topic)

Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:28:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Mikal Morataya
Rather than all the fanboy flaming, can someone describe what will be different losing this feature on my ATI card, worse performance? Worse looking game?

With ATI cards you will see some details disappear. For example, women will lose their clothes... HeH HeH HeH

Patches Ohulahann
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:31:00 - [96]
 

so i take it that no-one actually knows what SSAO actually does in eve then? and what will change when it is not available to ATI users.

Dan Daren't
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:34:00 - [97]
 

I'm waiting for the whine thread about the performance hit for those people with cheapass nvidia cards thinking their game is going to look all shiney with this enabled instead of the inevitable slideshow they'll get Laughing

Josefine Etrange
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:36:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Seishi Maru
bla, bla, bla, making **** up, bla, bla, making more **** up, bla, bla


If you are working with nvidia or ati gaming cards, your boss should be shoot into his face. But as you just made **** up, its not that bad ;-)




Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:38:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Illwill Bill on 21/06/2011 14:40:54
Originally by: BrundleMeth

Oooohhh Glide was the good old 3DFX days. I miss *sniff*

Bah, I remember the looks on my friends' faces when I launched Unreal Tournament with my Savage 4 and the S3 Metal renderer. Good times!Cool

Taipan Leviathan
Dark Star Confederation
The Ancients.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:42:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Patches Ohulahann
so i take it that no-one actually knows what SSAO actually does in eve then? and what will change when it is not available to ATI users.


This is what i understand of it:

Ssao allows for dark corners on models to be dark, and to illimunate a room with light passing through a small crack in a wall. In eve it makes ships feel more real due to better lighting effects on them.



Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:43:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Patches Ohulahann
so i take it that no-one actually knows what SSAO actually does in eve then? and what will change when it is not available to ATI users.

If you bothered reading my OP and followed some links you´d maybe know?

Or rather guess as we all do. As even after 12 hours a DEV still hasn´t managed to surprise us with an actual explanation.

And no this isn´t because of patchday. Last I heard GFX guys don´t do server and client patch stuff.

OSGOD
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:45:00 - [102]
 

to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,they refused to support voodoo cards of which i had the dual gpu 5500 from this refusal to support a customer who paid over 700 dollars for the best card on the market at the time made them instantly loose this customer i have been with ati ever since and will never spend moey on thiefs tech, intel are the same they introduced the dns chip can turn it on anytime with out your knowledge again lost another customer i use amd 6 core at mo, i get with a minimum 8 mg commection can run 2 eve clients at max settings with no lag and avcerage about 90 fps per client **** nvidia and intel and we all know why CCP are in bed with intel and nvidia cuase they all use monkey code

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:46:00 - [103]
 



Get the hint: ATI are 2nd rate, especially now AMD bought em.


I have had 2 ATI chips, drivers suck big time, features suck big time.

I always end up going back to Nvidia. Must be a reason for that. The pattern is too frequent.


Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:46:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: OSGOD
to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,they refused to support voodoo cards of which i had the dual gpu 5500 from this refusal to support a customer who paid over 700 dollars for the best card on the market at the time made them instantly loose this customer i have been with ati ever since and will never spend moey on thiefs tech, intel are the same they introduced the dns chip can turn it on anytime with out your knowledge again lost another customer i use amd 6 core at mo, i get with a minimum 8 mg commection can run 2 eve clients at max settings with no lag and avcerage about 90 fps per client **** nvidia and intel and we all know why CCP are in bed with intel and nvidia cuase they all use monkey code

Ummm...

wut?

Jaudark
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:47:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Dr Larry Goldstein
My Fermi GPU burnt down my house and killed my dog.


I run DukeNukem Forever and Crysis 2 on my 3Dfx voodoo5 5500 max settings.

true story.


(on a side note, dear AMD, please do non-****ed up (and non-bloated; .netfx, that's you) drivers and I'll reconsider you as an option)

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:47:00 - [106]
 

I didn't realize there is something like a gpu fanboi. For real now?

Kez Aumer
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:48:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: OSGOD
Sir, I respectfully bring your attention to this counterpoint


It's dangerous to go alone. Take these: ........... ,,,,,,,,,,,, ??? !!!

StillBorn CrackBaby
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:49:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Miilla


I always end up going back to Nvidia. Must be a reason for that. The pattern is too frequent.



I'm sure there is a reason? Another poor operator blaming their tools?

BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:51:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Illwill Bill
Edited by: Illwill Bill on 21/06/2011 14:40:54
Originally by: BrundleMeth

Oooohhh Glide was the good old 3DFX days. I miss *sniff*

Bah, I remember the looks on my friends' faces when I launched Unreal Tournament with my Savage 4 and the S3 Metal renderer. Good times!Cool


Actually that stuff was way cool wasn't it....

Jaudark
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:51:00 - [110]
 

Edited by: Jaudark on 21/06/2011 14:53:24
Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
Big wall of text about nVidia and 3dFX.

Ummm...

wut?


he's refering to the nVidia buys 3dFX back in the beginning of 2000. the transfer of IP left nVidia not able to use dual GPU cards and the SLi technology that 3dFX had made for about 4 years.
Also, nVidia bought 3dFX legally so IDK where the "omg nVidia stole technology from 3dFX" comes from.

Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:51:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,

Ummm...

wut?
Ah, good ole Voodoo vs Nvidia hatred.
Good times.

I of course had to buy a Matrox. Laughing

OSGOD
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:51:00 - [112]
 

hahahaha funny how i dont have any trouble with my set up yet people i know with nvidia /intel always have trouble . Fail tech nvidia brought out voodoo becuase thier was no competition and ****d voodoo`s dual gpu technology thats why nvidia will always play catch up lololololo, bye the way i was running dual cards in 1994 where was nvidia then

London
Imminent Ruin
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2011.06.21 14:53:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: London on 21/06/2011 14:58:23
Well this is just lazy if it's only 'nvidia' code that causes artifacts on AMD GPUs. AMD cards definitely support all the same features. I run SSAO and advanced depth effects in games like Shogun 2, and SSAO in Bad Company 2 on an AMD 6970.

I guess it's the same thing with AMD stamped games like Shogun 2, but at least those effects still work on nvidia cards too because the company doesn't want to split its customer base.

Shame on you CCP. Get in contact with AMD catalyst people and sort this out, don't just turn your back on it because you happen to be partnered with a jolly green giant.

Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:00:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Not-Apsalar on 21/06/2011 15:01:31
Originally by: Liva Daril
Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,

Ummm...

wut?
Ah, good ole Voodoo vs Nvidia hatred.
Good times.

I of course had to buy a Matrox. Laughing


And that is why you fail. You should have went with PowerVR instead. The power of tile based rendering

Jaudark
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:02:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Liva Daril
Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,

Ummm...

wut?
Ah, good ole Voodoo vs Nvidia hatred.
Good times.

I of course had to buy a Matrox. Laughing


Montreal represent!!!
Btw, you think EyeFinity is great? the only decent way to support up to 24 screens on a single card is still Matrox.
just sayin'

Dace Kaveira
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:10:00 - [116]
 

So what's actually the problem right here, you mean Incarna will be less pretty on AMD cards compared to Nvidia cards? I'd like to know as I actually bought an AMD computer just for Incarna as my old laptop couldn't handle it. I feel like I'm being ripped off by CCP.

Kytayn
Gallente
Kronos TEchnologies
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:10:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Mars Theran
Edited by: Mars Theran on 21/06/2011 03:58:01

Compare these:

ATi Developer Tools and SDKs

Nvidia Developer Tools and SDKs

Now, which one do you think you would go with?
...

Heh. And they chose PS3 instead of XBox 360 for Dust 514. If it were just a matter of dev tools, the XBox is by far the easier choice. (I know, they chose PS3 because Sony permits CCP to connect the console to CCP's network directly.)

I have an ATI Radeon HD 5870 on Windows 7. That card was better than anything NVidia had to offer at the time I bought it. Thankfully, none of those restrictions seem to intersect with my current configuration.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:12:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Not-Apsalar
And that is why you fail. You should have went with PowerVR instead. The power of tile based rendering

This.
I bought a Kyro II after I OC'd my Savage to a fiery death. It was awesome.

Liva Daril
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.21 15:13:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Not-Apsalar
Edited by: Not-Apsalar on 21/06/2011 15:01:31
Originally by: Liva Daril
Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
to all you nvidia suckers out thier i was a voodoo fan nvidia and its dual gpu technology is based on stolen ideas from voodo and they still cant get it right ,

Ummm...

wut?
Ah, good ole Voodoo vs Nvidia hatred.
Good times.

I of course had to buy a Matrox. Laughing


And that is why you fail. You should have went with PowerVR instead. The power of tile based rendering
LMAO!
I added that one later.
It was clearly the superior technological alternative to stinkin´ 3dfx and thus soon completely abandoned. Evil or Very Mad

Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.21 16:24:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Jaudark
Edited by: Jaudark on 21/06/2011 14:53:24
Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: OSGOD
Big wall of text about nVidia and 3dFX.

Ummm...

wut?


he's refering to the nVidia buys 3dFX back in the beginning of 2000. the transfer of IP left nVidia not able to use dual GPU cards and the SLi technology that 3dFX had made for about 4 years.
Also, nVidia bought 3dFX legally so IDK where the "omg nVidia stole technology from 3dFX" comes from.

Yeah, I remember when all that happened. You said it better though....


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