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Kordan Marenus
Posted - 2011.06.19 18:53:00 - [1]
 

So i recently got done with my trial period and i've decided that eve is worth my time and money, so i subscribed. i spent my first month not really focused on anything and not really getting much done because i was trying out different aspects of eve and trying to understand different features of the game. I have alot of combat, minning and industry skills that took less than 10 hours to train. so i have a lot of skills at level 3 and some at 4 in these areas. I joined eve because a guy at work plays and he talked me into trying it. He is trying to get a new corp off the ground as ell.

I know that his long term plan is to set up in 0.0 space, so long term my goal is combat. Short term he is focused on setting up a pos is low or high sec space and manufacturing things to make isk. his combat character has a retriever and now so do i and his other account has a hulk. right now we are minning to make isk and for minerals we will need later.

I figure that being decent at minning and decent at production, (i can run 4 jobs) can make me alittle isk right now and also i can make stuff for personal use like ammo and such. plus i figure the first free month nothing is wasted because im trying things out and now that i've paid i can start to take things more serious.

we arent close to pvp yet, and i can get a hulk in alittle less than a month and we wont be in 0.0 space in a month at the rate we are at. so i've been thinking about getting a hulk maybe since im still in lvl 1 missions but im trained up to fly a battlecruiser i dont really need to train combat skills for awhile. another idea i had is to train up my production skills so i can make rigs from the salvage i get in missions also.

My ultimate goal is to be combat focused but still be able to make some money when not war declared. If i focus on combat can i make a living doing just missions? or do most have a side job? a second account is out of the question unless i make enough to keep it up with plex. right now im thinking combat with a salavge/rig production side job. or combat with minning and some production just so i can make items that sell for more than the ore it takes to make them to maximize isk i make.

RavenPaine
Posted - 2011.06.19 19:41:00 - [2]
 

I want to make a couple of points. And maybe a recommendation, but in the end Eve is a GAME, and whatever is fun for YOU is the real goal.

95% of the ships in Eve have GUNS. So PvP may come to you sooner than you are expecting to need/want it.

Mining from a solo account is easy, but it will never be the best way to make ISK.

Mining, Manufacturing, Marketing, etc. That whole line of endeaver can make great isk, but it's a full time job and will consume years of skill training.

It's good that your asking these questions now. Thinking ahead about ISK and focus is the best thing an Eve player can do.

If your goal is PvP, (again, 95% of Eve is Ships with Guns) then I would recomend that you start missioning right away. Missioning makes much better ISK than mining AND it trains combat skills while your doing it. You will learn early on, what your ship can do, and what it needs to make it better. You will learn about Range, Race types, Damage types, Drones, Tanking choices, etc. etc.

Eve is also a social game.
Words like "Alliance", "Fleet", "Gangs", "Corporation" are all indicaters of such. It may be that you will find yourself in a corp where your the only person that aspires to PvP. Be sure that your corp leadership has the same goals as you early on, or that you can live with the goals they have and still have fun. Maybe you can help your corp a lot by promoting certain direction in the game.

Long post.. Hope I helped a little. GL

Kordan Marenus
Posted - 2011.06.19 20:46:00 - [3]
 

cool, thanks. This game is radically different than other games such as wow. so im having to rewire how i think about things. which is good. alot of games you have a combat focus and a crafting focus. Also im used to being self sufficient which eve seems to be more group focused than other mmos. which is strange because alot of mmos feel like single player with other people around lol

im already trained to fly a noctis because i want to salavage my missions. would it be worth it to train to build rigs so i can use my salavaged material? and if so how much training into that is good?

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.19 21:17:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/06/2011 21:18:10
Originally by: Kordan Marenus
cool, thanks. This game is radically different than other games such as wow. so im having to rewire how i think about things. which is good. alot of games you have a combat focus and a crafting focus. Also im used to being self sufficient which eve seems to be more group focused than other mmos. which is strange because alot of mmos feel like single player with other people around lol

im already trained to fly a noctis because i want to salavage my missions. would it be worth it to train to build rigs so i can use my salavaged material? and if so how much training into that is good?

Just don't forget that training something really well really takes years. For instance, T2 battleship guns alone take around 75 days. It would be recommended that you specialize in something.

Why do you think so many people in EVE have second or third accounts?

Mahkal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.19 21:19:00 - [5]
 

While wanting to do everything is what I wanted to do when I started, I've found that the game rewards specialization.

Missioning, Mining/refining, Production & Invention are all things you need to devote several months to a year to in order to get enough the skills to excel at it.

Exploring, station trading, hauling, Planetary Interaction are things that don't need a lot of skill points to make work, but you still need to devote a fair bit of IRL time to developing.

Kordan Marenus
Posted - 2011.06.20 03:57:00 - [6]
 

ya i downloaded eve mon. im up to 300 days of stuff to train lol.

Gottii
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.06.20 05:57:00 - [7]
 

If you want to play EVE, work on building your skills, not just your characters.

If you want to be a combat pilot, that means pvp experience, the more the better. Dont buy the people who tell you that you need x number of level V skills to be a good pilot, even a well-flown Rifter is an asset on the battlefield.

Just learn, make mistakes, and learn along with your toon.


Starlight Twilight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.20 18:55:00 - [8]
 


Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.06.20 19:35:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kordan Marenus

im already trained to fly a noctis because i want to salavage my missions. would it be worth it to train to build rigs so i can use my salavaged material? and if so how much training into that is good?


Given what you'll be salvaging, you'll probably make good money just selling the salvaged material, but the good salvage doesn't start until level 3 or level 4 missions. That said, I make more money on salvage than I do on the mission itself in general, but it does slow you down, so you complete less missions(which could work against you if you treat missioning like ratting). Making your own rigs would save you money, but most rigs are not prohibitively expensive(though T2 rigs sell for a pretty penny and may be useful for mission running ships).

Ultimately, I'd spend very little training time on some market and salvage skills. Enough to be able to do the things you want, but not enough to truly delay combat skill training.

Asherr Sindar
Posted - 2011.06.22 20:55:00 - [10]
 

A noctis is a great idea for a few reasons - 1) you make good money salvaging 2) it keeps ninja pirates from stealing that money. Having said that, you are better of just powering through the level 1 and 2 missions until you get to level 3s, Don't bother with the salvage.. just get your standings up so you can run better missions. Your goal should be to get into level 4s, where you can make serious money.

Pick out a good BC that can easily solo level 3's, and just put in the time training and getting used to it. Go with a group to run level 4s once you are able. Don't rush into the BS until you can actually fit it decently. They are expensive and it would suck to lose a few hundred million isk because you tried to rush.

I'm a fairly new character, and your best way to make money early is to run missions. Dabble a bit in different ventures (production, transportation, mining, etc), but be sure to set some goals for yourself so that you don't wander forever.

Waylan Yutani
Gallente
Order of the Seraphim
Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 - [11]
 

being combat focussed will actually bring you more isk than being a production/mining toon - and the sweet part is that those mission-combat skills will come in handy when you decide to shoot at something non-scripted.

being shot at (imho) is the most fun part in eve, right after killing other players ofc Wink


 

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