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Karme Geddon
Posted - 2011.06.18 19:02:00 - [1]
 

Hey guys,
I haven't been playing for some time. Now I am back and I see prices of salvaged materials are down by 1/3 since my last time. Is it worth to do loot/salvage of wrecks with Noctis or its better to go straight to another mission? I can fly only t2 fitted drake, so it takes me a bit longer to finish lvl 4 mission. I know some meta level 4 items are worth few millions, but drop chances are not that high. So whats your opinion? Do the salvage or don't?

PS: I have almost perfect refining skills. I used to sell only named loot and I refined the rest and sold the ore.

Herman Klaus
Caldari
Touched By Klaus
Posted - 2011.06.18 21:02:00 - [2]
 

DO your own math. Personally i don't waste my time. Blitz the high bounties and move onto the next mission.

Jeff Severasse
Posted - 2011.06.18 21:10:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Jeff Severasse on 18/06/2011 21:10:47
Depends.

In general I found that I have at least a 2:1 isk ratio on looting/salvaging to bounties/rewards when running level 4 missions.

Also sometimes you can get lucky and have some really rare modules drop, like the 'arbalest' heavy missile launcher (13mil buy order in Dodixie).

One option to you if you dont want to take the time so salvage is put a tractor beam on your drake in the 8th high slot and loot as you kill. I used to do that when I flew a dominix but ran into issues with limited cargo space.

Ultimately it comes down to how you want to invest your time. The isk/hour is good if you do but at the same time I find it mind numbing after awhile.

*EDIT* I forgot to mention I have a noctis alt so that makes it less painful for me :P

Alvaresh Kingston
Posted - 2011.06.19 07:07:00 - [4]
 

One major point that makes Salvaging and looting more worth the effort is that the salvage is still used to build rigs and thus is worth money. In my book if you can make money by simply tractoring and salvaging why not?

Skorpynekomimi
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.19 07:19:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Alvaresh Kingston
One major point that makes Salvaging and looting more worth the effort is that the salvage is still used to build rigs and thus is worth money. In my book if you can make money by simply tractoring and salvaging why not?


Because it's more ISK/hour to just go run another mission.

Galding
Posted - 2011.06.19 10:44:00 - [6]
 

If you only have one account, blitz missions.

If you have a second account that isn't particularly well skilled, have him salvage behind you and you can make a tidy profit for a little extra attention while playing.

That said, I don't think a drake is going to be blitzing level 4 missions, so it might be worth it for you to salvage, you could always do the math yourself in terms of isk/hour from drake missioning, vs. isk/hour salvaging.

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.06.19 10:58:00 - [7]
 

Whether or not it is worth it really depends on where your priorities are. If you are maximizing your isk/hr and only have the one toon, no its not. If you have a second account like said above, then it can be. Invest in a Noctis if you plan to salvage/loot.

Rigs used to be more valuable than the salvage they were made from. For the last year that has not been the case. But lately the salvage prices have been dropping drastically. So it may be worthwhile to build rigs again, rather than just selling to buy orders.

BPOs for T1 rigs are fairly cheap, and the skills required to make rigs are negligable. Industry 3, jury-rigging, and the rig skill appropriate to the rigs you want to build (astronautics, missiles, shields, armor, etc.). You can literally be a pro-skilled salvager and rig builder in less than a week for a 100 million isk initial investment.

Fearless Worthless
Posted - 2011.06.19 11:48:00 - [8]
 

I think this might depend on the character (and therefore their skills and the ship that they're flying).

Right?

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.06.19 23:18:00 - [9]
 

i do it, loot and salvage, however i find looting relaxing, though it might not be as efficient i factor in the possiblilty to dc or lose my ship during mission running salvaging its almost imposible to die and sometimes u get some epic loots.

Clambumper June
Posted - 2011.06.20 00:25:00 - [10]
 

If you manufacture and have good refine skills the drone ore alone is worth the hassle. As stated above getting a few prints and researching them you can build rigs with the salvage and make extra isk that way, or sell the salvage directly to the market. Either case I find looting to be worth the hassle for the profit alone. Especially if you wait until you have an indi full then transport to market. I can make over 100 mil on armor salvage alone.

Mahkal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.20 14:41:00 - [11]
 

Depends on your dps. If you're still taking 1 or 2 hours to complete a mission, then salvaging and looting is worth it. I have heard that 1k dps is the break even point, but I haven't verified that.

Chrandon
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.20 17:36:00 - [12]
 

Depends on the mission for me. If there's a good number of wrecks near eachother, and it isn't all small ships, I'll go ahead and salvage. Occasionally play at work too, so I'll do it just to kill time as well.

Used to keep a tractor & salvage on my Domi, since the drones are doing most of the work but the travel time was just really annoying so I stopped.

Ghost hawk332
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:13:00 - [13]
 

Here is the easy answer, and the best of both worlds.

Take some newb under your wing, set him up to do the salvage.

You go in, get aggro, or clean the room, he warps to you, he cleans up while you go on to the next room, or turn in the mission and get started on the next one.

In a couple of weeks if you help him plan his skills right he can be in a noctis.

Costs you next to nothing, and gives him a real chance to make some isk.

In return for mission rewards and bonus's I bet he would be glad to slip you a stack of alloy bars, tripped power circuits, or Fried interface now and then for making rigs. Especially if you share a few of the rigs with him.

Yes I was one of the lucky ones, have 2 "mentors" both of which run level 4 missions. Both helped me get off to a good start.
Granted not every newb loves doing salvage as much as I do.




Orion Pendragon
Posted - 2011.06.21 12:30:00 - [14]
 

Ghost Hawks answer - plenty of noobs all too willing to help you loot and split it.

It all depends on where the missions are. Same system, lots of loot then yes loot it. For example AE gives 35-40m? in bounties and takes anything from 40-60 minutes depending on your ship/skills. Noctis will clean up the loot in about 15-20 mins and From AE you will make an extra 25m or so from loot (with no 'nice' drops).

If its 4 jumps away and you have to travel back to swap to your Noctis its probably questionable about it being worth the time as that will waste you 10 minutes in travel.

However its always worth it if the noob is pulling it in for you.


 

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