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Chinalla
Posted - 2011.06.17 16:20:00 - [1]
 

took me about 3 hours to kill every NPC

i kill all npcs because i salvage everything

How long does it take you guys to kill worlds collide completely

Dragon Lord
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.06.17 16:51:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Dragon Lord on 17/06/2011 16:51:27
40mins last time i cleared everything, normally do one side and it take me around 25mins

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.17 18:43:00 - [3]
 

Just over half an hour for the whole thing, most of it gate travel (ok, probably not, but it feels like that at least) Razz

Chinalla
Posted - 2011.06.17 18:48:00 - [4]
 

whats the DPS required to do it in 30min? my raven does 400 missiles only. and it takes me more than 1 hour to finish worlds collide

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.17 19:07:00 - [5]
 

400? O_o

Your raven needs BCUs, higher missile skills, and probably a target painter or two and some rigor rigs.

Goose99
Posted - 2011.06.17 19:25:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Goose99 on 17/06/2011 19:34:04
Haven't cleared WC in a long time. Last time I remember was around 25 minutes in a 800dps hml tengu, mostly shooting, not much travel time. I tried clearing in a Mach once, but ran into tanking problems, went through gates and blitzed it instead. Other BS took very long due to travel times, despite higher dps.

Btw, a 3 bcs fit with standard cruise missiles in 6 t2 cruise launchers gives 450 missile dps, at all lvl5 skills. With lower skills, 450 sounds about right. Many people don't realize how little dps Caldari missile boats give. They shouldn't be. Raven/CNR are popular because it takes little SP to get into, can change damage types, and gets the job done, not because it blitz fast. Golems are popular because those same people continue down large missile path, never flew Mach/NM/Tengu and don't realize what they're missing.

Nuela
Posted - 2011.06.17 19:39:00 - [7]
 

25-30 min sounds right.

However, I only kill what I need to.

S0ylent Green
Posted - 2011.06.17 20:42:00 - [8]
 

last time I did it in my cnr the time in pocket was about 12 minutes, thats with an ab fitted, doing a semi blitz (killing the ships in the first room rather then using a hacker card, usually having to kill webbers in the second room and only killing the trigger group in the final room.

However I now blitz in a tengu, using somme of the stacks of hacker cards I have lying around, so prolly way less then 10 minutes depending on the faction as the only ships I shoot at are the trigger group in the final room and those are cleared without a reload iirc

Kesshisan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.17 21:18:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Chinalla
took me about 3 hours to kill every NPC

i kill all npcs because i salvage everything


Wrecks only last 2 hours then go poof.

If it is truly taking you more than 90 minutes to clear a mission, then I hope that you are doing it like this:

Clear one room.
Get salvage boat and salvage it.
Clear another room
Get salvage boat and salvage it.
etc.

Otherwise you are not salvaging 100% of the mission.

Chinalla
Posted - 2011.06.17 22:02:00 - [10]
 

I use 2nd account to salvage. this is why i need to clear completely everything . so it doesnt aggro noctis

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2011.06.17 22:34:00 - [11]
 

The only one I have a time on is with a Tengu. This is the Sansha/Angel variant of Worlds Collide. The way I run this in a Tengu is as follows:

1) Drop in to the mission, and immediately head under afterburner towards the Angel side acceleration gate.
2) As soon as I get within range, kill all the Angel battleships.
3) Use the gate to the Angel base. Kill the three sentry towers and spy frigates. Then kill the group that contains battleships and battlecruisers. Then kill the group with the battleships and elite frigates. Then head for the acceleration gate killing the last group on the way. For the last group I do not wait, I activate the gate as soon as I get there. All the large bounty ships are long dead by that time.
4) Drop into the final room and immediately move away from the damaged Heron and cluster of ships. Kill anything that aggros on me. Then pick one battleship, kill it, and anything that aggros from that group. Repeat until all battleships are dead plus the elite frigates.
5 While killing the last group, move back in and pick up the crew from the Heron. As soon as the last battleship dies and am capable of warping out with the crew, I leave.

Total time, 23 minutes 10 seconds. 704 DPS kinetic damage output. I don't mess with the Sansha side at all.

Lugalzagezi666
Posted - 2011.06.17 22:52:00 - [12]
 

Around 25-30 mins in tengu, but i kill frigs only if they are scraming me /or webbing and i cant get to acc gate/.
Blitzing takes maybe 5 mins in mwd tengu.

Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.06.17 23:19:00 - [13]
 

You need to skill up and maybe change your fit.

To begin with: Are you using correct ammo?

Kesshisan
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.17 23:27:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Chinalla
I use 2nd account to salvage. this is why i need to clear completely everything . so it doesnt aggro noctis


I don't mean to be rude, so I apologize for how this is going to sound but:

Nothing in your post contradicts anything I said. Furthermore your reply shows that you do not understand what I said in my post on multiple levels.

Would you like me to address these issues and help you increase your efficiency further, or would you prefer that I just move on?

Tenzeck
Posted - 2011.06.18 14:59:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Chinalla
whats the DPS required to do it in 30min? my raven does 400 missiles only. and it takes me more than 1 hour to finish worlds collide


You might be better off doing level 3s in a BC until you actually get some decent battleship skills. Level 4s aren't better money if its taking you ten times as long to finish them.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.18 20:15:00 - [16]
 

30 mins or so in an unprobeable Tengu for the Gallante/Blood Raider version.

Pi-zwei one
Posted - 2011.06.20 06:18:00 - [17]
 

3 Hours? That cant be right..
My Missionship brings ~ 530 DPS and i clear the whole Mission with salvaging after in ~ 45-60 minutes(sometimes i am lazy :>) Minutes. Sounds like you messed up with Dmg types (for Sansha WC: Angels -> Explo, Sanshas -> EM) or u having hard times with friggs.

Are u using T2 Fury missiles? If yes, dont (!!) do that, use T1 or faction instead, gives u a freakin lot more DPS against Crusier/Frig sized NPC's while sustaining reasonable DPS against BS's. Do us a favor and post your fit, then we may could give u advice.

Diamaht Nevain
Gallente
Avatar Union
Posted - 2011.06.20 15:19:00 - [18]
 

As your ships and fittings improve so will your times. If you kill everything 40-50mins or so would be a descent time.

The best times are going to come when you have high skill points and officer/faction fittings

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.20 16:24:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Nuela
25-30 min sounds right.

However, I only kill what I need to.


If you only kill what you need to in WC it only takes about 7 minutes to complete.

Kaji Xeg
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.06.20 16:28:00 - [20]
 

You silly carebears, you do missions for LP not ISK.

The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.20 16:35:00 - [21]
 

One way around 20-30 minutes, depending on the hull. Clearing all about 40-50 minutes.

Nuela
Posted - 2011.06.20 20:01:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Nuela on 20/06/2011 20:02:30
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Nuela
25-30 min sounds right.

However, I only kill what I need to.


If you only kill what you need to in WC it only takes about 7 minutes to complete.


Yea, I realized after reading what I wrote that it was wrong. I should have said...only kill what areas I need to (1 room plus final room where mission item is)...but I kill everything in those rooms. So Serp/Guer the Serp room and the final Guer room leaving the initial warp into room and the Guer room alone.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.06.21 01:24:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kesshisan
Nothing in your post contradicts anything I said. Furthermore your reply shows that you do not understand what I said in my post on multiple levels.


I think you are not understanding her post.

She clears each area with the mission-running ship, then salvages that area with the Noctis.

The easiest way to make her operation more efficient is to switch to a more gank-heavy fit on the mission ship, such as Raven la Liang.

After that comes a definition of "efficient". One person may suggest ISK/hr on the bounties and salvage, another may point out the value of LP/hr - but then you have to consider what the ISK/LP conversion rate is for the corporation this pilot is flying for.

Katowen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 10:22:00 - [24]
 

I am not the fastest at missioning but WC with full clear in a CNR and then using a Noctis to loot & salvage takes me around 50 mins.

I consider that pretty good. Because of that, there are times I don't see Overseers at all.

Thallus Tage
Posted - 2011.06.23 12:38:00 - [25]
 

Took me about 3 minutes. And after they blew up my drake and I realized this mission was too big for me in my current skills, I flew my pod back to the station and bought a new ship... dropped mission.


 

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