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Acac Sunflyier
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.17 07:49:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Acac Sunflyier on 17/06/2011 07:51:25
I hardly ever see any posts in there. It seems like they pretty much stick to the stickies and then come over to the GD thread. Meanwhile there are a lot of super cool ideas that seem to go unnoticed.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.06.17 07:52:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 17/06/2011 08:00:31

They read it, they just don't post there often.

EDIT: I don't see your "a lot of super cool ideas" though. There are a few grains of gold, some decent ideas and a mountain of bad ideas, that the OP always thinks is the best idea ever. Your docking fee idea being one of the bad ones for example.

kerradeph
Gallente
CATO.nss
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:04:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
They read it, they just don't post there often.


well if they are taking the time to read the threads they could at least give some feedback on what they think of the idea as actually feasible or not.

Mithfindel
Zenko Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:18:00 - [4]
 

The major problem with Features and Ideas forum is that the majority of the ideas are impractical, don't work, belong to another game, or have already been suggested a few hundred times. Now what does this have to do with devposts? Simple. If the few good ideas there get devposts, we'd end up with idiots whining about why devs post in that ****ty thread about an idea no one is interested of, but don't post in my wonderful thread about making CONCORD titans with omni-damage doomsdays available to players for high-sec griefing (exclamation mark, exclamation mark, one, one, exclamation mark).

So, in order to sift through all the crap in F&I, you'd pretty much need to find a dev that understands every aspect of the game (including, very importantly, griefing) and read & reply to the F&I as a nearly full-time job. Which just isn't really productive.

knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:22:00 - [5]
 

P don't care what you think! Or anyone else!

Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:22:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Mithfindel
The major problem with Features and Ideas forum is that the majority of the ideas are impractical, don't work, belong to another game, or have already been suggested a few hundred times. Now what does this have to do with devposts? Simple. If the few good ideas there get devposts, we'd end up with idiots whining about why devs post in that ****ty thread about an idea no one is interested of, but don't post in my wonderful thread about making CONCORD titans with omni-damage doomsdays available to players for high-sec griefing (exclamation mark, exclamation mark, one, one, exclamation mark).

So, in order to sift through all the crap in F&I, you'd pretty much need to find a dev that understands every aspect of the game (including, very importantly, griefing) and read & reply to the F&I as a nearly full-time job. Which just isn't really productive.


YARRRR!! You mean the devs aren't just here to hear how we feel today?
+1 though, it explains the situation well.

Aelius
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Dark Matter Coalition
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: knobber Jobbler
P don't care what you think! Or anyone else!

I used to have some faith in CCP but as you say they have turned into P.
I doubt they even read that forum at all... although i recon there are alot of stupid ideas, some gather the player base consensus like the "modular POS" idea... and not even a single reply from CCP.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.06.17 08:53:00 - [8]
 

from here
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Features and Ideas is absolutely not the dustbin of the forums. On the contrary it is the ideal place for every player to post game changing features and ideas.

Part of the role of every Community Representative is to find threads that would be of interest to Content or Game Design and link those threads to the Depts on a regular basis. I personally tend to link quite a few threads from F&I through to the correct people whenever possible.

I also know that many of the Developers within those Depts will read F&I much more regularly than GD. So the truth of the matter is that game changing ideas are much better off in that section

Originally by: CCP Navigator

The problem that can exist in terms of Developer replies to good or bad features and ideas are numerous. For example we may find a thread and think "This would make a good addition" but it may be weeks or months before it reaches a development stage. During testing it may then prove that implementation causes significant bad side affects or balancing issues.

So now we are left with the problem that a Developer says "Good idea!" and nothing comes from it.

This could result in player anger at being told one thing and nothing happening. This is absolutely something we would want to avoid.


Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.17 09:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator

The problem that can exist in terms of Developer replies to good or bad features and ideas are numerous. For example we may find a thread and think "This would make a good addition" but it may be weeks or months before it reaches a development stage. During testing it may then prove that implementation causes significant bad side affects or balancing issues.

So now we are left with the problem that a Developer says "Good idea!" and nothing comes from it.

This could result in player anger at being told one thing and nothing happening. This is absolutely something we would want to avoid.



A good way to avoid player anger is to have an active "in the works" section in the forum available only to DEV postings chronicling what is being considered, what is being worked on as well as the failures, why it failed, and whether it's going to be shelved for the moment or just done away with completely.

In other words...communicate with your players CCP. That is all we want.

Boobytrapper
Posted - 2011.06.17 09:02:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
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It d be bllody interesting to know why that bit of very non-trivial information isnt a sticky in the F&I subforum.

Bleh.

Amber Accelerando
Posted - 2011.06.17 09:04:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 17/06/2011 08:00:31

They read it, they just don't post there often.

EDIT: I don't see your "a lot of super cool ideas" though. There are a few grains of gold, some decent ideas and a mountain of bad ideas, that the OP always thinks is the best idea ever. Your docking fee idea being one of the bad ones for example.


seriously. how the hell do you know what they read?

could you not pretend to know what you're talking about here please!

Cyriel Longinus
Caldari
XERCORE
Posted - 2011.06.17 09:23:00 - [12]
 

They don't replay often but they do read it


 

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