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Viibl Triibl
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:23:00 - [811]
 

Originally by: LIOZTH
Originally by: Inspiration
Awesome post!


^...and you should be working for CCP, it will probably be one hell of an improvement.


Pretty much anyone would be an improvement. They've taken a sandbox game about spaceships and made it into a regulated game about styling your avatar.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:36:00 - [812]
 

Originally by: syphurous

( if it is not produced in EVE, I dont want it in Eve )


THIS

They should sell the items required to make vanity items so that players can make the end product, otherwise we are going to have forty thousand character walking around with the same monocle.

Callic Veratar
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:52:00 - [813]
 

I'm a little late to the party on this topic, but now that Incarna has actually come out, I wouldn't be surprised if the IWScorp needs 15000-20000 AUR. The idea that you'd need to spend $100 to get one IW Scorps kinda seems likely to me at this point (at least if they do a scorp for free week, and even if they don't).

Gylfie Ambraelle
Posted - 2011.06.23 20:53:00 - [814]
 

ugh what is happening to this game... It's really sad that our subscription money is being used to develop ways to make more money instead of adding to the gameplay. The turret update in incarna was nice, i will give them that. However, It doesn't make up for the terrible walking in stations BS. That was seriously the biggest waste of man hours and player money to date. If CCP would focus on making the game more exciting again with new ships, balancing, etc they would draw more people back to the game, thus making more money. If I wanted a cash shop i'd go play LoL or soemething. And yes, blizzard has a cash shop for WoW but at least their main focus is still gameplay and content... as easy and boring it may be.

noneofnine
The Circle
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:19:00 - [815]
 

Originally by: Evelgrivion
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 13/06/2011 22:22:02
Originally by: Lothros Andastar
Protip: You can buy ships for Isk, which comes from Plex, so you can buy ships for Dollars anyway.


Dead wrong.



Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is unacceptable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent cannot be allowed. The sandbox MUST NOT become second fiddle to Microtransactions!

Mikal Morataya
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:21:00 - [816]
 

Originally by: noneofnine
Originally by: Evelgrivion
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 13/06/2011 22:22:02
Originally by: Lothros Andastar
Protip: You can buy ships for Isk, which comes from Plex, so you can buy ships for Dollars anyway.


Dead wrong.



Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is unacceptable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent cannot be allowed. The sandbox MUST NOT become second fiddle to Microtransactions!



Hear, hear!

Isis Soryu
Caldari
Universitas Interimo Research
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:22:00 - [817]
 

Originally by: noneofnine
Originally by: Evelgrivion
Edited by: Evelgrivion on 13/06/2011 22:22:02
Originally by: Lothros Andastar
Protip: You can buy ships for Isk, which comes from Plex, so you can buy ships for Dollars anyway.


Dead wrong.



Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is unacceptable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent cannot be allowed. The sandbox MUST NOT become second fiddle to Microtransactions!

THIS So much THIS

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:24:00 - [818]
 

Well said! Eve is about focus and personal effort, and if we allow this we'll have basement-dwelling incompetents being bought ships by Mummy and Daddy to keep junior happy.

noneofnine
The Circle
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:24:00 - [819]
 

BUMP

velox
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:33:00 - [820]
 

Having played since 04 this is a sad turn of events. Kinda feels like EA are in the wings with the mass adoption of lets milk the players.

The perfect scenario to introduce custom ships skins was already ingame in the form of the LP stores custom bpcs should have been made available there all be it at a very high cost.

That would have upheld the effort = reward and the 'everything is made by the playerbase rule'

As it stands from here I fear its all down hill.



Creetalor
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:37:00 - [821]
 

Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
I got a break between meetings. I have 11 minutes to post again in this thread. I apologize I haven't been able to read all the posts.

I had a chance to talk to the CSM and get a clarification. I was not remembering it some parts correctly. At that time, we talked about only making the ship available for one week as a test (sold directly for Aurum) and then saving it until we had the correct trade-in or BPC functionality in the store. Then selling it normally.

The CSM didn't like the idea of selling a whole ship, but they could live with a one week test.

What I will do is take the ship off the schedule and just put it on hold for now. We are still going to make it available, but I will wait until August and see how things are going. By then I will know more about how long it will take to get either BPC or trade-in functionality into the store. At that point we can revisit the schedule for introducing the ship.



So what will we be looking at 84000 AUR? I mean considering the size and sophisticated level of the maschine furthermore considering I would not want to put any cheap maschine in my eye, I would not like to buy a flying junkyard. Who else would aggree to the reasonable price of 2 years playtime?

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:43:00 - [822]
 

I find it funny where people just fail at reading the blue-bar posts. They've said that the store cannot accept trade-ins or BPCs _RIGHT NOW_, but will later. They also stated that they won't launch the Scorpion until it does.

So what is the problem here?

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:46:00 - [823]
 

Because they really tried this gambit of selling a ship to see how well it would go down with the userbase. I'm betting if everyone applauded it, even more ships would go on sale - permanently.

Nybbas
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.24 09:56:00 - [824]
 

Originally by: Ancy Denaries
I find it funny where people just fail at reading the blue-bar posts. They've said that the store cannot accept trade-ins or BPCs _RIGHT NOW_, but will later. They also stated that they won't launch the Scorpion until it does.

So what is the problem here?


Why don't you just shut up and start burning cars and looting buildings with the rest of us! DONT ASK WHY JUST SCREAM AND YELL AND WHINE.

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2011.06.24 10:07:00 - [825]
 

Originally by: Nybbas
Originally by: Ancy Denaries
I find it funny where people just fail at reading the blue-bar posts. They've said that the store cannot accept trade-ins or BPCs _RIGHT NOW_, but will later. They also stated that they won't launch the Scorpion until it does.

So what is the problem here?


Why don't you just shut up and start burning cars and looting buildings with the rest of us! DONT ASK WHY JUST SCREAM AND YELL AND WHINE.
Because I don't live in Vancouver? :P

Zao Jin
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:16:00 - [826]
 

The way to stop MT is not to buy it. If that doesn't work because of basement dwelling incompetent bottom feeders, unsub when it goes through. There are other games to play. The reason I play EvE is because CCP historically hasn't done stupid stuff like this, and despite absurd nerfbats, has a pretty good sandbox. No sandbox, no sub.

Zao Jin
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:22:00 - [827]
 

CCP used to make fun of stuff like this.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=549

Now, after enabling AUR, you can just click on the ScorpionAnywhere! button and CCP will automatically bill your credit card for the transaction as part of the Customer Experience Process. No hassle, no fuss, instant Scorpion!

As they continue developing AUR 2.0, you will almost assuredly be able to buy T3 BS's Only With AUR!(tm).
With the release of AUR 3.0, even poor children from Zimbabwe will be able to afford a 10% bonus on their existing ships for a mere 2 or 3 USD.

Just remember, Only With AUR!(tm). If you don't have the money, or don't want to spend it, you LOSE!

Zao Jin
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:24:00 - [828]
 

Edited by: Zao Jin on 25/06/2011 15:25:03
Double Post

larry hotter bigpants
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:32:00 - [829]
 

What I find insulting is that they think that having a NeX store that can't accept a trade in now and that we believe they will in the future is rather ******ed.

Come one folks. The structure already exists int eh Loyalty point store structure to do just what is needed but they dont WANT trade ins in the Nex store other wise it would be there already.

CCP thinks we are fools and will go along with any crap they say. People need to listen to teh **** they are not saying rather then the stuff they are saying.

As CCP said. Our actions speak more than our words. The same is true for them.


Daemeon Fyral
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:36:00 - [830]
 

Originally by: Ancy Denaries
Originally by: Nybbas
Originally by: Ancy Denaries
I find it funny where people just fail at reading the blue-bar posts. They've said that the store cannot accept trade-ins or BPCs _RIGHT NOW_, but will later. They also stated that they won't launch the Scorpion until it does.

So what is the problem here?


Why don't you just shut up and start burning cars and looting buildings with the rest of us! DONT ASK WHY JUST SCREAM AND YELL AND WHINE.
Because I don't live in Vancouver? :P


HEY!!! I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK!!!

X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:36:00 - [831]
 

Originally by: Callic Veratar
I'm a little late to the party on this topic, but now that Incarna has actually come out, I wouldn't be surprised if the IWScorp needs 15000-20000 AUR. The idea that you'd need to spend $100 to get one IW Scorps kinda seems likely to me at this point (at least if they do a scorp for free week, and even if they don't).
Nobody will spend $100 to purchase an Ishukone Scorpion (at least I hope not for their sake Very Happy ). People will purchase PLEX and sell that PLEX to people with too much isk. It's those guys that will purchase the fancy scorpions.

Maybe there's some idiot out there who used RL money to purchase a monocle, but more likely all 58 or so of those monocles purchased are guys with 10 billion isk readily available for lols.


Ripley Nostromo
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:47:00 - [832]
 

Originally by: Evelgrivion

Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is unacceptable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent cannot be allowed. The sandbox MUST NOT become second fiddle to Microtransactions!


Corrected:

Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is very desirable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent MUST be allowed. The sandbox will be quite fine with Microtransactions!

Press TabQuick
Posted - 2011.06.25 15:49:00 - [833]
 

Originally by: Ripley Nostromo
Originally by: Evelgrivion

Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is unacceptable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent cannot be allowed. The sandbox MUST NOT become second fiddle to Microtransactions!


Corrected:

Nothing in EVE, beyond PLEX itself, is created without consuming minerals that were acquired through game mechanics. It is very desirable for CCP to introduce a ship to the economy that consumes neither minerals, or an otherwise identical ship, for nothing.

This precedent MUST be allowed. The sandbox will be quite fine with Microtransactions!



May I ask why it is very desirable and why it must be allowed? It does not seem to fit with the EVE player driven economy. Unless your point is that there are no BOTS, and no players left to mine.

StillBorn CrackBaby
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:05:00 - [834]
 

Originally by: Soden Rah
Not once did you really engage with us and say, hey you guys, it turns out making clothes and tattoos and custom paint jobs and quarters is more expensive than we thought...
are you ok with a slower pace of development on them...
or would you be prepared to pay more on your subscription...
or vanity item only microtransactions....
Are you that delusional to believe ANY company is going to engage their customers in this fashion? I have no trouble telling my customers in my Company. "This was a business decision. I'm sorry you have decided to take your business elsewhere"... Loosely translated means "eat **** Sherlock...."

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:18:00 - [835]
 

Originally by: Tippia


Yes, it's a kludge, but if you absolutely have to get the ship in ASAP, this is the best way to do it. AUR store doesn't sell the ship it sells a newfangled Caldari XT-1 Nexus Chip (or whatever). The IW LP store (which we can open ever since Incursions did away with the need for having LP before you could actually make use of the LP Store window), in turn, sells IW Scorps for the price of 0 LP + 1 XT-1 + 1 Scorp. Or, hell, throw it in the CONCORD store if you want to make it more universally available.

Ugly as hell, but a much better solution to spawning minerals out of nothing.


yes that sounds PERFECT

jury rig the LP store to do the trade in part for you

Bizheep
Minmatar
Shin Hikage
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:33:00 - [836]
 

CCP keep telling us that they are worried because there are too much ISK in the game.
instead of adding aurum they should have just added vanity items that could be bought for isk and not for aurum (the only downgrade for this was RP reason like paint costing more than the ship) as isk sink

Admiral Valdore
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:38:00 - [837]
 

Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
If we need to go even slower, we can and will.


No need to go slower, you guys are slow enough as it is.

cynomass
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:46:00 - [838]
 

Buy scorpion from market
Trade scorpion+aurum for new designed one
You still only have 1 scorpion

Thats what they said in AT9
if you think otherwise, you are infact a ******


End of thread

Anon Forumalt6858
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:54:00 - [839]
 

My problem is that selling an item outright violates one of the base tenets of Eve, that everything in created by the players. Conjuring a scorpion out of thin air is bull****. Now selling you the BPC for a ship or consuming a standard scorpion from your hangar and replacing it with the sparkle pony that is identical to all other scorpions would be fine. You'd still need to create the ship with resources or obtain it from the market via conventional means. It's the circle of Eve life.

zlt
Posted - 2011.06.25 16:59:00 - [840]
 

Players who are willing to pay extra have always had an advantage over those who don't. Selling plexes and having multiple accounts CLEARLY gives you an advantage over players who would rather not pay for those things. And even without all that, it's impossible to stop people from buying and selling their characters and ISK on ebay. This is an age old problem with MMOs and theres never been a real solution. It's as good as it is. People buying their way to success is something that happens in real life as well as video games and you just have to deal with it. Cool


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