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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.06.12 08:36:00 - [31]
 

The worst of it is listening to the nasally voice of some kid (half the time eastern European, so he sounds like a young Borat) who goes on and on about how awesome his Rattlesnake is, and how much DPS he can do with it. Or how adept he is at avoiding gate camps, or one-up this, one-up that. For ****'s sake spare me, SPARE ME! So yeah, only in fleet ops.

Maximum Manmeat
Posted - 2011.06.12 08:39:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Maximum Manmeat on 12/06/2011 08:39:47
Originally by: Sverige Pahis
Holy **** sperging aspie trap sprung.


Someone call for a sperging ass-spy?

Edit: also "sprung"

Nuniki
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:05:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Nuniki on 12/06/2011 09:06:26
I wonder how the people who complain about "voices that sound dumb" and "small talk" fare in real life. Is it so torturous to your ears that you cannot join an extension of the social environment which allows for quicker more precise communication?

You can play just as well without voice as you do with it. Correct, but only as a solo player. You will be working less efficiently with a team then if you were using voice communications. It is a undeniable fact.

There is no reason in the world to not use voice comms that you can drop here that won't make you look like a spoiled whining brat. The only true exception to this is a person who is deaf, but that does not suddenly mean they are operating at the level at which they would be if they were able to use voice communications.

Edit: All I am reading is complaints about people being forced to listen to someone talk about random stupid things. Maybe you should be friends with people before you're playing a video game together.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:08:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 12/06/2011 09:09:16
Voice for combat - and only with strict rules in place so that only useful combat information is being relayed, and only by the appropriate people at appropriate times. Herein lies and undeniable advantage.

Otherwise, text chat wins.

EDIT: To the socialites in the thread, I don't play eve to socialize better. I socialize, when necessary, to play eve better.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:37:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Sverige Pahis
Holy **** sperging aspie trap sprung.


You rang? Laughing

Nerds can't communicate. That just leaves attention *****s and vaginas who equate their sense of snowflake or nipples with some kind of social heirarchy.

Voice is nice for ops but text is a purer medium of self. So naer.

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:37:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Nuniki

Edit: All I am reading is complaints about people being forced to listen to someone talk about random stupid things. Maybe you should be friends with people before you're playing a video game together.


Really? So you knew all of the people you play with now before you started playing EVE? Rolling Eyes

Maximum Manmeat
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:41:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Holy One
Nerds can't communicate.


Test would like a word with you

JitaBUGz TheGreat
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:42:00 - [38]
 

LOL

There is not a single TS I have been in, mostly all the NC. That is not a utter joke. Far to many people like to hear themselves talk.

But I will say WI. was the funniest. Nothing like a bunch of adults trying to troll like there 16 year old counter parts. Alot like those wanabee-teen moms trying to dress like there kids. Just dose not work, but good for a laugh.


Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:43:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Nuniki
Edit: All I am reading is complaints about people being forced to listen to someone talk about random stupid things. Maybe you should be friends with people before you're playing a video game together.


Perish the thought of trying to make friends with people that you end up teaming up in the game with Laughing

Maximum Manmeat
Posted - 2011.06.12 09:57:00 - [40]
 

Vuk RMT'd all my friends away. Evil or Very Mad

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.06.12 10:55:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 12/06/2011 11:01:54
Originally by: Akita T

Incomprehensible accents.
Grating voices.


I get that in RL all the time Surprised
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Inane smalltalk.

Mute sound.
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Wildly different volumes, from "need to turn up headphone at max to barely hear" to "yank headphones out because your eardrums just exploded".

Good folks use TS3. You can make individual adjustments. Its also why you want to have admins on server who know what the f* they're doing.
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Voice-activated transmit with a noisy background.

Tell them, or mute them. Though TS3 eliminates bg noise pretty well unless the idjit using it really cranks his mic in up way too high.

See this is what talking to people is all about. If these things annoy you, then talk to the people and have them rectify. It's not that big a deal. Most will be quite thankful if you help them set their rig up.
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Key-activated transmit with people forgetting to push the key.

I love it when they do that Wink
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No record or what was said, people missing what's said, having to repeat it a zillion times and for each newcomer.

You don't have to, you know. Just be uncompromising. It's either be there from the start or follow the pack as best as you can. Yeah... it can be annoying but you can always mute with a button press. Matter of fact, though, the OP is right in so far that it is mission critical if you really get into the game and those odd individuals who refuse to use it and yet still demand to be filled in on everything via chat are about as annoying as it really gets. F* em.

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Voice channels ? No thanks. I'd rather use text mode mainly.

Cool. Just don't expect to be part of the pack when you don't wanna join the ranks. No pun.

froggy boy
Posted - 2011.06.12 12:09:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Praxis Astra
Hey all you New EVE Players. I just wanted to clue you in as to how you can guarantee that you remain on the fringes of any online organization.

Now some folks do just want to have fun poking around on their own. That's fine with us if this is the case. Just remember that you have an open invitation to the revels and a seat near the hearth any time you want it.

But if you want to be in the thick of what is happening in this or any online organization, you gotta do the same thing you have to do at any party. You have to TALK to the other people. You have to get into the corp voice chat server. Voice to voice is the heart of the operation. Getting into the voice server makes it easier to do every single thing you want to do in the game. The voice server is where almost all of the educating, wheeling and dealing, Secret Evil Planning, and bonding takes place. That's just how it works. Fairness has nothing to do with it. Or to put it another way, who would you rather play with--somebody who is talking in the room with you "face to face" or somebody who only exchanges written messages with you through a slot in a door? (They'd have to be a DAMN good writer to keep me interested for long.)

Voice communication is essental to entering the leadership, to ops of any kind, to doing anything in 0.0 space. The only way I accept voiceless people in ops is with the understanding that nobody is responsible for what happens to you if you miss out on critical instructions at crisis moments such as if a mining op is attacked. A lot of the time typing is simply not an option.

It really doesn't matter why you don't participate in voice communication. All the other players can judge with any certainly is that, with millions of ISK and our character's lives at stake, you are someone who does not have this essential tool. If your finances are so bad that you don't have $15.00 for a headset, you need to stop reading this and find a job. If you are having tech troubles and are unable to figure them out I got some bad news for you: learning EVE is at least as complicated as that. If you can't figure out how to make a microphone work, you probably won't ever be very good at this game. Perhaps something simpler like tic tac toe? Solitaire? Finally, if you need further explanation on this point that does not bode well for your ability to function as a part of a team.


what about the those that are deaf

Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.06.12 13:01:00 - [43]
 

text, especially local chat, is not to be underestimated for combat either

Demure Guise
Posted - 2011.06.12 13:20:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Demure Guise on 12/06/2011 22:35:08
Edited by: Demure Guise on 12/06/2011 13:22:25
Originally by: Akita T
Incomprehensible accents.
Grating voices.
Inane smalltalk.
Wildly different volumes, from "need to turn up headphone at max to barely hear" to "yank headphones out because your eardrums just exploded".
Voice-activated transmit with a noisy background.
Key-activated transmit with people forgetting to push the key.
No record or what was said, people missing what's said, having to repeat it a zillion times and for each newcomer.

Voice channels ? No thanks. I'd rather use text mode mainly.

This, and...

Annoying attempts at humour which fail to even be faintly amusing.
Puerile, immature, inarticulate conversations that are painful to endure.
Forced to listen to people I wouldn't even want to sit next to on a bus let alone talk/listen to.

Who needs all that ****! I haven't needed voice chat in Eve for five+ years, and I won't be using it for the forseeable future. No way, no how. I'll voice chat happily to RL friends and family but I'm not interested in talking to every faceless individual on the Internet just because we play a game.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.06.13 03:15:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Demure Guise
Edited by: Demure Guise on 12/06/2011 22:35:08
Edited by: Demure Guise on 12/06/2011 13:22:25
Originally by: Akita T
Incomprehensible accents.
Grating voices.
Inane smalltalk.
Wildly different volumes, from "need to turn up headphone at max to barely hear" to "yank headphones out because your eardrums just exploded".
Voice-activated transmit with a noisy background.
Key-activated transmit with people forgetting to push the key.
No record or what was said, people missing what's said, having to repeat it a zillion times and for each newcomer.

Voice channels ? No thanks. I'd rather use text mode mainly.

This, and...

Annoying attempts at humour which fail to even be faintly amusing.
Puerile, immature, inarticulate conversations that are painful to endure.
Forced to listen to people I wouldn't even want to sit next to on a bus let alone talk/listen to.

Who needs all that ****! I haven't needed voice chat in Eve for five+ years, and I won't be using it for the forseeable future. No way, no how. I'll voice chat happily to RL friends and family but I'm not interested in talking to every faceless individual on the Internet just because we play a game.

So basically... what you're saying is you're either playing together with people that you find so annoying that you wouldn't wanna talk to them, or you're playing alone. So either those peopel that you refuse to talk are *******s, or you are. Either way, you lose.

Crewman Jenkins
Caldari
Malicious Demi-Lancers
Posted - 2011.06.13 05:09:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Crewman Jenkins on 13/06/2011 05:14:34
I won't join a pvp op without voice, and I like to be on comms for incursions. However, other than those few times, I don't care to be on it. I don't enjoy talking all that much.

He's right though, for the big alliances, if you aren't on voice you'll most likely always be a pawn.

Cham Palaung
Posted - 2011.06.13 05:22:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Cham Palaung on 13/06/2011 05:31:54
Edited by: Cham Palaung on 13/06/2011 05:27:18
I find voice communications totally "immersion breaking". I understand its necessity in pvp fleet operations, with enforced rules to avoid out of topic babbles, but else, it's a big NO for me. I'm in space and don't want to hear about what's on your pizza or who has won the football match. At least when you write it i can ignore it, but sadly, ears have no eyelids. Written communication it more quiet, relaxing, people will have a bit more time to think before they express themselves. Also i don't want to have something on the head which cuts me from my natural environment, and i don't want to annoy people living around me by talking in a microphone.
Out of fleet ops, voice coms is encouraging poor quality of communication.

Our modern world is permanantly agressing us with violent and vulgar noises which are making us more and more dumb and decadent (tv, radio, noise pollution). I play an online game to share something better with people.

Hurffa Duornya Uffflna
Posted - 2011.06.13 06:16:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna on 13/06/2011 06:17:31
This thread is especially funny for me. The last time I had a spy in the Jagged Alliance (hi OP) it was all voice coms all the time. I got the pleasure of learning about.. just a small sampling. A, hrm how should I put it. A gay male nurse who was convinced he was straight but was suffering from erectile dysfunction and couldn't make his wife pregnant and sounded like Rosy Odonnell and a recovering/relapsing crystal meth addict who was having an online affair with a FC borrowed from FW. Not to mention a gaggle of nerds fawning over a teenage girl that said she would **** in their mouths. (Not ****ing kidding)

That's just a few and not to mention, they couldn't function as a coherent group in PVP at all.

Did not help with my immersion. I really wasn't even bothering to anything but rat while I had the opportunity anit really troubled me, all of it.

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.06.13 06:51:00 - [49]
 

To the people who posting the negative points you should remember that many of the bad points you post are applicable to many RL social situations. Getting onto a voice server has its bad sides but you also get some great fun out it with jokes and the funny things that happen.

Cham Palaung
Posted - 2011.06.13 06:56:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
remember that many of the bad points you post are applicable to many RL social situations.


That's precisely the point : many of us play a mmo to experience something different than our daily life.

Aisha Ravenwood
Posted - 2011.06.13 07:19:00 - [51]
 

More importantly..

Teamspeak or Vent? please vote

salty Milk
Posted - 2011.06.13 08:17:00 - [52]
 

"How to be a Second Class Citizen of ANY Online Organization"


Be male.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.13 10:28:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Habaticus on 13/06/2011 10:29:36
Originally by: Aisha Ravenwood
More importantly..

Teamspeak or Vent? please vote



That is the kind of stupid inane bull you get with voice comm

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2011.06.13 11:04:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna
Edited by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna on 13/06/2011 06:17:31
This thread is especially funny for me. The last time I had a spy in the Jagged Alliance (hi OP) it was all voice coms all the time. I got the pleasure of learning about.. just a small sampling. A, hrm how should I put it. A gay male nurse who was convinced he was straight but was suffering from erectile dysfunction and couldn't make his wife pregnant and sounded like Rosy Odonnell and a recovering/relapsing crystal meth addict who was having an online affair with a FC borrowed from FW. Not to mention a gaggle of nerds fawning over a teenage girl that said she would **** in their mouths. (Not ****ing kidding)

That's just a few and not to mention, they couldn't function as a coherent group in PVP at all.

Did not help with my immersion. I really wasn't even bothering to anything but rat while I had the opportunity anit really troubled me, all of it.

Lol that **** almost made me go apply at some random 0.0 alliance corp Twisted Evil

Gotta love the random ****talk on TS. Thankfully the "mute sound" button is never far away if you're not in the mood. I wish I could shut people down that easily in real life.

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.06.13 12:42:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 13/06/2011 12:47:11
Originally by: Cham Palaung
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
remember that many of the bad points you post are applicable to many RL social situations.


That's precisely the point : many of us play a mmo to experience something different than our daily life.


So you play a social game in order to avoid being social?

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna
Edited by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna on 13/06/2011 06:17:31
This thread is especially funny for me. The last time I had a spy in the Jagged Alliance (hi OP) it was all voice coms all the time. I got the pleasure of learning about.. just a small sampling. A, hrm how should I put it. A gay male nurse who was convinced he was straight but was suffering from erectile dysfunction and couldn't make his wife pregnant and sounded like Rosy Odonnell and a recovering/relapsing crystal meth addict who was having an online affair with a FC borrowed from FW. Not to mention a gaggle of nerds fawning over a teenage girl that said she would **** in their mouths. (Not ****ing kidding)

That's just a few and not to mention, they couldn't function as a coherent group in PVP at all.

Did not help with my immersion. I really wasn't even bothering to anything but rat while I had the opportunity anit really troubled me, all of it.

Lol that **** almost made me go apply at some random 0.0 alliance corp Twisted Evil

Gotta love the random ****talk on TS. Thankfully the "mute sound" button is never far away if you're not in the mood. I wish I could shut people down that easily in real life.


You could almost join Jagged Alliance just for that quality of lols on voice coms, that's some of the best I have ever heard off.

Shazi Mavox
Posted - 2011.06.13 12:52:00 - [56]
 

Heh, forced voicechat is the #1 reason I have not yet bothered with joining a corp...

notabene
Posted - 2011.06.13 12:56:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 13/06/2011 12:47:11
Originally by: Cham Palaung
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
remember that many of the bad points you post are applicable to many RL social situations.


That's precisely the point : many of us play a mmo to experience something different than our daily life.


So you play a social game in order to avoid being social?

Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna
Edited by: Hurffa Duornya Uffflna on 13/06/2011 06:17:31
This thread is especially funny for me. The last time I had a spy in the Jagged Alliance (hi OP) it was all voice coms all the time. I got the pleasure of learning about.. just a small sampling. A, hrm how should I put it. A gay male nurse who was convinced he was straight but was suffering from erectile dysfunction and couldn't make his wife pregnant and sounded like Rosy Odonnell and a recovering/relapsing crystal meth addict who was having an online affair with a FC borrowed from FW. Not to mention a gaggle of nerds fawning over a teenage girl that said she would **** in their mouths. (Not ****ing kidding)

That's just a few and not to mention, they couldn't function as a coherent group in PVP at all.

Did not help with my immersion. I really wasn't even bothering to anything but rat while I had the opportunity anit really troubled me, all of it.

Lol that **** almost made me go apply at some random 0.0 alliance corp Twisted Evil

Gotta love the random ****talk on TS. Thankfully the "mute sound" button is never far away if you're not in the mood. I wish I could shut people down that easily in real life.


You could almost join Jagged Alliance just for that quality of lols on voice coms, that's some of the best I have ever heard off.


Social game?

You can actually play eve your entire life without having to text or speak to anybody

Mon Maures
Minmatar
Blacklight Incorporated
Posted - 2011.06.13 12:57:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Nuniki
Edited by: Nuniki on 12/06/2011 09:06:26
I wonder how the people who complain about "voices that sound dumb" and "small talk" fare in real life. Is it so torturous to your ears that you cannot join an extension of the social environment which allows for quicker more precise communication?


Ok, i get on fine in RL, probably because i'm not forced into inane conversations with idiot teenagers who feel the need to vocalise their every thought or play their music down the mike because it "awwsoome".

I agree with the sentiment of the OP - voice is a useful tool in game - but only when necessary and not all the time.

Originally by: Nuniki
Edited by: Nuniki on 12/06/2011 09:06:26
Maybe you should be friends with people before you're playing a video game together.



Not sure what point your making here - we should all be friends before we start to play? Erm....no

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.13 12:58:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
So you play a social game in order to avoid being social?

[/quote


Whatever gave you the idea this is a social game?


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