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Ford Mersombre
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:12:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Estephania
The reasoning behind Dust is simple - to get on the lucrative console market. But whether Dust is going to last is a totally different matter. Console gamers usually lack any sense of loylty and console crowd will happily forget about Dust the moment Call of Duty 22, or Counter Strike 32 will come out. It will be up to CCP to keep pace with experienced FPS companies that are baking a sequel per year.
I think Dust should be released both on consoles and on PC, but they were probably afraid that PC players will get too much of advantage because of awkward console controllers. But in any case, if Dust players influence on Eve is kept at minimum, I don't care and wish CCP all the luck.


I have a hard time believing that console gamers are going to spend a lot of money buying stuff from the cash shop.

I love the idea of DUST and want to play it, but I have doubts on its success given the source of income. Hopefully they've done some kind of market research and I'm wrong ...

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:16:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Lidia Prince on 11/06/2011 21:16:44
Originally by: Estephania
The reasoning behind Dust is simple - to get on the lucrative console market. But whether Dust is going to last is a totally different matter. Console gamers usually lack any sense of loylty and console crowd will happily forget about Dust the moment Call of Duty 22, or Counter Strike 32 will come out. It will be up to CCP to keep pace with experienced FPS companies that are baking a sequel per year.
I think Dust should be released both on consoles and on PC, but they were probably afraid that PC players will get too much of advantage because of awkward console controllers. But in any case, if Dust players influence on Eve is kept at minimum, I don't care and wish CCP all the luck.

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Console gamers usually lack any sense of loylty and console crowd will happily forget about Dust the moment Call of Duty 22, or Counter Strike 32

Tell me about loyalty next time some dude steals all money from his corpwallet, ok?
And "just so ya know", Counter Strike is a game of glorious PC master race, lol. Sorry, it's hard not to giggle on this one.

There will be players who'll find Dust more appealing than CoD, BF3 and such, especially because EVE's economy and MMO-style leveling. Not sure how many will, tho.
And no way in hell Dust should be released on PC. First, there WILL be aimbotters, and noone needs that ****. Second, PC is not the main system for FPS games nowadays, exactly because of aimbotters.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:19:00 - [33]
 

Doesn't the op know you can emulate a ps3 and all its functions on a computer and you can also remotely use a ps3 from a computer too?


I for one welcome our ps3 porting to pc duskateer overlords.

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:25:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Doesn't the op know you can emulate a ps3 and all its functions on a computer and you can also remotely use a ps3 from a computer too?


I for one welcome our ps3 porting to pc duskateer overlords.

Oh come on. Emulations never worked, don't work, and will never work properly.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:33:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 11/06/2011 21:33:54
Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Doesn't the op know you can emulate a ps3 and all its functions on a computer and you can also remotely use a ps3 from a computer too?


I for one welcome our ps3 porting to pc duskateer overlords.

Oh come on. Emulations never worked, don't work, and will never work properly.


It's also unnatural for people to fly, it'll never become practical right? Right??

You boys should have spoken up back when DUST was first revealed.

If you view the release of DUST on a console as a reason to quit EVE, you never had your head on straight about EVE to begin with. DUST merely becomes a convenient rationalization of why you are quiting.

Or to put it more succinctly, nobody really cares if you leave or why. At least have the self respect to pass on quietly.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:39:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 11/06/2011 21:39:37
Originally by: Jasdemi
Oh come on. Emulations never worked, don't work, and will never work properly.

PS1 emulation works almost perfectly. Both me and my brother played and finished quite a few PS games on our PCs.
PS2 emulation mostly works nowadays, still a bit wonky, but you can play a lot of the PS2 games on a modern PC.
PS3 emulation will eventually sort of start working, probably a couple of years after PS4 is out.

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:45:00 - [37]
 

WTB: A working PS3 emulator in the short lifecycle where Dust is relevant to anything.

Oh wait. I don't because I'm not into stupid FPSh*tes

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:53:00 - [38]
 

Boom Headshot..Boom Headshot..Boom Headshot..Boom Headshot..Wait, how is he doing that?

Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.11 21:58:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Mars Theran on 11/06/2011 22:00:00
Originally by: Lady Spank
WTB: A working PS3 emulator in the short lifecycle where Dust is relevant to anything.

Oh wait. I don't because I'm not into stupid FPSh*tes


FPS games are fun, don't knock it like that. FPS on PC sucks because of hackers. Worst case scenario is someone gets headshots on everybody in the field, from the other side of the map, and all they have to do is mouse over a box indicating their locations to do it. Best case scenario, you get some guy using an aimbot in for a few minutes when the admin is on, and he gets banned, and banned, and banned, repeatedly along with 10-20 other guys all night.

Oh yeah.. fun.

FPS on PS3 best FPS

edit: yeah, I'm just saying that. Couldn't care less, but at least I know the hacking will be limited. Controls are easier for some, not so easy for others. Kind of gotten used to keyboard and mouse myself. oing to take me a long time to get back into a controller.

Yukiko Kagashima
Posted - 2011.06.11 22:08:00 - [40]
 

I think in the end the major problem is that the console online community is far less loyal to a single game. Whenever the next big triple A hyped warshooter gets released folks will move on. This will leave the Dust514 integration dwindling very quickly after an initial peak.
I think most Dust514 players will be folks who play EVE right now. It sucks it's on the PS3 only, but I can only hope it will support keyboard/mouse (since, how else can you communicate with someone in the EVEverse?) and a joypad is just a crime to play an FPS on.

The idea is great, the potential enormous, but the execution seems flawed. It's most likely a money issue, Sony greases some palms and console opens up a whole new market for them to gain income from which was previously unavailable.

Most likely a day one buy from me none the less.

Fumbleface
Posted - 2011.06.11 22:08:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Sir Oliver Midwestshire
I can't comprehend your logic. Exactly what about DUST coming out for the PS3 makes you not want to play EVE? Because it's on the PS3?

The amount of xbox and PC fanboys on these forums is horrendous.

And no, you're not going to quit, your probably going to take a few weeks off and then wind up playing again, you people are all the same.
You probably spend too much time at N4G, that would explain why seeing so many people with only Xbox 360's and PC's seem so strange to you. ShockedShockedShocked

Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.11 22:39:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: EyeBye
no you can't have my stuff
don't give 2 sh*ts how many versions of this thread there are, this is BS - if you look at the interviews even the interviewers are spam-asking why CCP is making an obviously bad decision

"let's release our game for the least popular modern console"

FPS on a console = stupid

3 accounts for years, boom headshot - not paying again.



Darth Vader [from Family Guy's Blue Harvest]: "Get the f**k out of my bounty hunter meeting".

Ruri Mizushisi
Posted - 2011.06.11 23:54:00 - [43]
 

Some of the stupidity in this thread is painful.

1) The release of the PS4 does not mean the PS3 goes "belly-up". There will be people playing PS3s for a very long time, in the same way that there are STILL people playing games on the PS2. The Nintendo 3DS was released recently, and no new games are being developed for the DS. Guess what? My DSi still, miraculously, works.

2) The release of the PS4 does not mean that a game like Dust has to be redeveloped from scratch. At most it needs some code adjustment, but quite possibly, depending on how backwards-compatible the PS4 is, it just has to be *installed on the new system*. You know how every single PS1 game works on the PS2? Like that.

3) "Who would play an FPS on a console..." Lots of people. FPSes are very popular on consoles. Get over yourself. It's a slightly different skillset, but that's it.

4) "Console gamers have no loyalty..." Rolling Eyes

Basically, all you people who don't have consoles at all are speaking from total ignorance, and to be honest, people who have XBoxes and not PS3s seem to be assuming that the player culture around both is the same, which it's really, really not.

I, for one, relish how long I can spend playing multiplayer FPSes on my PS3 without someone calling me a Mexican jew lizard.

Generals4
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.12 00:04:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: EyeBye
no you can't have my stuff
don't give 2 sh*ts how many versions of this thread there are, this is BS - if you look at the interviews even the interviewers are spam-asking why CCP is making an obviously bad decision

"let's release our game for the least popular modern console"

FPS on a console = stupid

3 accounts for years, boom headshot - not paying again.



Those tears will go fine with my chicken.

Tyriana McLoren
Caldari
The Republic of Free Trade
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:03:00 - [45]
 

I personally don't care about Dust or if it has an impact on EvE at all... however I do find it slightly silly that the console chosen was one that has recently been breached and over 70Million people's personal information has been obtained by whom?

Might as well let Google host it

Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:04:00 - [46]
 

While I agree that Dust should have been released for both consoles (why throw away so many potential customers?), who cares really. If you've played FPS, you know their popularity only lasts a few months until the next Call of Duty or whatever comes out. Sure, there's the occasional Halo, but I think the best CCP can realistically hope for is a good run of a few months and maybe a temporary boost in Eve subs, though most will probably leave due to Eve not being 'twitch' based.

Dust, while a cool concept, will only be a blip on your Eve radar. Why get so angry? Why quit Eve. I won't be playing Dust, but I won't be quitting Eve. I think the best solution, OP, is for you to give me all your stuff.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:23:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Bklyn 1
While I agree that Dust should have been released for both consoles (why throw away so many potential customers?), who cares really. If you've played FPS, you know their popularity only lasts a few months until the next Call of Duty or whatever comes out. Sure, there's the occasional Halo, but I think the best CCP can realistically hope for is a good run of a few months and maybe a temporary boost in Eve subs, though most will probably leave due to Eve not being 'twitch' based.



Microsoft wouldn't share the network

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:27:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Bklyn 1
While I agree that Dust should have been released for both consoles (why throw away so many potential customers?), who cares really. If you've played FPS, you know their popularity only lasts a few months until the next Call of Duty or whatever comes out. Sure, there's the occasional Halo, but I think the best CCP can realistically hope for is a good run of a few months and maybe a temporary boost in Eve subs, though most will probably leave due to Eve not being 'twitch' based.

Dust, while a cool concept, will only be a blip on your Eve radar. Why get so angry? Why quit Eve. I won't be playing Dust, but I won't be quitting Eve. I think the best solution, OP, is for you to give me all your stuff.


This depends on the fps. Planetside lasted years, not months, and since we really don't know the specifics on the mechanics of dust yet, its impossible to say just how long it will last.

Yaz Mynne
Gallente
DiamondCutterz
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2011.06.12 01:58:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: EyeBye
no you can't have my stuff
don't give 2 sh*ts how many versions of this thread there are, this is BS - if you look at the interviews even the interviewers are spam-asking why CCP is making an obviously bad decision

"let's release our game for the least popular modern console"

FPS on a console = stupid

3 accounts for years, boom headshot - not paying again.



I miss him already

Shova Kais
Caldari
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2011.06.12 02:02:00 - [50]
 

Children(op)? IN MY EVE?!?!

No. Get out.

Thelitos
Posted - 2011.06.12 02:04:00 - [51]
 

I didnt read the whole thread and I'm pretty sure this was mentioned but they couldn't release the game on xbox due to their policy that wouldn't work with dust in many ways (in-game currency, cross-platform play, etc). In addition it was never meant to be on the PC if that's what you're mad about.

You're really overreacting.

Unit757
North Point
Posted - 2011.06.12 02:22:00 - [52]
 

Yeah as far as I know it isn't on xbox because of Microsofts policy on xbox live interacting with PC servers or something along those lines. It's not CCP's fault, I'm sure if they could release dust on xbox they would in a heart beat. Get mad at Microsoft, not CCP.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.06.12 02:47:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Copine Callmeknau on 12/06/2011 02:54:07
Originally by: EyeBye
no you can't have my stuff
don't give 2 sh*ts how many versions of this thread there are, this is BS - if you look at the interviews even the interviewers are spam-asking why CCP is making an obviously bad decision

"let's release our game for the least popular modern console"

FPS on a console = stupid

3 accounts for years, boom headshot - not paying again.



hahahaa, this is the funniest **** I've seen in a while.

Thank you for ending your miserable EVE existence, you've brought a smile to my face on an otherwise mediocre day

also: He's mad

edit:
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

BEST
SIG
EVAR!

Pete15
Posted - 2011.06.12 02:54:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
And no way in hell Dust should be released on PC. First, there WILL be aimbotters, and noone needs that ****. Second, PC is not the main system for FPS games nowadays, exactly because of aimbotters.

Wow that's very stupid of you to think that.
Reason why the PC ain't the main system has nothing to do with hackers.
Consoles just have a waaaaay bigger playerbase and companies like Activision know that they can push out the same CoD game every year and console kiddies will eat it up. That's why console's are the main system for FPS's these days. They're still better played on PC tho.

Originally by: Mars Theran

FPS games are fun, don't knock it like that. FPS on PC sucks because of hackers. Worst case scenario is someone gets headshots on everybody in the field, from the other side of the map, and all they have to do is mouse over a box indicating their locations to do it. Best case scenario, you get some guy using an aimbot in for a few minutes when the admin is on, and he gets banned, and banned, and banned, repeatedly along with 10-20 other guys all night.

Oh yeah.. fun.

FPS on PS3 best FPS

edit: yeah, I'm just saying that. Couldn't care less, but at least I know the hacking will be limited. Controls are easier for some, not so easy for others. Kind of gotten used to keyboard and mouse myself. oing to take me a long time to get back into a controller.

Yeah btw you do realise that there is a higher percentage of hackers on consoles than their is on PC.
Also the reason people get away with hacks on PC is because of games with **** anti cheat systems (Modern Warfare 2). Jump on Call of Duty 4 for PC and guarantee you'll see the anti cheat system pop up every 20 minutes to say someone has been banned.

A Little Girl
Posted - 2011.06.12 05:49:00 - [55]
 

What? It isn't coming out on Wii?!

Neutra RaVe
Amarr
Drunken Wookies
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.06.12 11:06:00 - [56]
 

LOL... They told us that it was going to be on the PS3 over a year (or 2) ago when they first announced Dust 514. I'm failing to see why you are freaking out so badly now? Did a fanboi xbox player who just heard the news from E3 laugh at your epeen cause you've been obsessing over Dust for the past year and now its NOT on the console you own? OH NOES!! God forbid CCP exclusively uses one platform so that they can fully optimized the game on one console and NOT 2 or 3...

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.12 12:11:00 - [57]
 

Regardless of the reasons, all 'I quit' threads belong in Out of Pod.

We are sorry to see you leave and wish you all the best in your future ventures.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.06.12 16:53:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Regardless of the reasons, all 'I quit' threads belong in Out of Pod.

We are sorry to see you leave and wish you all the best in your future ventures.


He's not leaving, he's just acting out.

m4ster112
Caldari
Combat and Recon
The Last Chancers.
Posted - 2011.06.14 14:27:00 - [59]
 

Oh yeah he mad.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.06.20 20:58:00 - [60]
 

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