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Grutry
Minmatar
Eon Mining
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:16:00 - [1]
 

My corp recently raised it's tax rate from 8% to 100!!! Evil or Very Mad
Our alliance just got into a war... with a 15 man corp. So that's pretty lame that we have to have a gate camp with like 200 people. So I went 20 or so jumps out and brought my drake so i could run missions and make some isk without the alliance telling me otherwise. So our ceo comes on and says that she raised the tax to 100 to discourage missioning and mining. I don't know how long the war will last, probably only a week, but this is bull. So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:18:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Sader Rykane on 08/06/2011 01:19:03
If you don't give a **** about the war then leave corp, its really that simple.



*EDIT*

Oh hey look at that we have similar corp /ally names ; I'de just like to clarify that I don't know who this guys corp is and am no way affiliated with whatever bull**** war they are involved in.

Montevius Williams
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:19:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Montevius Williams on 08/06/2011 01:19:06
Originally by: Grutry
My corp recently raised it's tax rate from 8% to 100!!! Evil or Very Mad
Our alliance just got into a war... with a 15 man corp. So that's pretty lame that we have to have a gate camp with like 200 people. So I went 20 or so jumps out and brought my drake so i could run missions and make some isk without the alliance telling me otherwise. So our ceo comes on and says that she raised the tax to 100 to discourage missioning and mining. I don't know how long the war will last, probably only a week, but this is bull. So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?


If they've been treating you not so kindly, leave - there are plenty of corps around EVE. You pay your account to play, not your Corp CEO - do what makes you happy bud.

Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:20:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Grutry
My corp recently raised it's tax rate from 8% to 100!!! Evil or Very Mad
Our alliance just got into a war... with a 15 man corp. So that's pretty lame that we have to have a gate camp with like 200 people. So I went 20 or so jumps out and brought my drake so i could run missions and make some isk without the alliance telling me otherwise. So our ceo comes on and says that she raised the tax to 100 to discourage missioning and mining. I don't know how long the war will last, probably only a week, but this is bull. So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?


So your corp doesnt want you to earn any isk, just work for the corp?

Not worth staying in if you ask me.

Lady Natacha
Minmatar
Water and Power
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:24:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Lady Natacha on 08/06/2011 01:24:41
Unless your corp is willing to pay your sub or give you a Plex whenever they tell you how you can play, you should tell them to sod off.

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:28:00 - [6]
 

Definitely leave. It's stupid they would raise it to 100%, especially if there isn't a ship loss reimbursement policy. How are you supposed to replace ships that you lose if you cannot make any ISK? Sounds like a CEO's way of making a quick buck off his corp members before he scrams.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:30:00 - [7]
 

Why are you in the corp?

Natalya Mayaki
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:31:00 - [8]
 

So you're not willing to defend your corp in a war for a whole week and instead probably feed kills to the attackers (off soloing in a drake)? Probably ought to leave the corp ... why are you even in the corp in the first place?

Realistically - is the corp doing anything to deserve either the 8% or the 100%? Are they replacing ships? Providing skills? Providing something you can't get somewhere else? If corps are charging any tax - there should be some benefits they are providing to their members (TS, team ops, mission hubs, faction to do something?, people to do things with?, replacements? cheaper ships/mods? something). If the only reason to be in the corp in the first place is avoiding the 11% tax in the npc corps - make your own corp and set the tax to 0.


Atticus Fynch
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.08 01:39:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 08/06/2011 01:39:09
Originally by: Natalya Mayaki
So you're not willing to defend your corp in a war for a whole week and instead probably feed kills to the attackers (off soloing in a drake)? Probably ought to leave the corp ... why are you even in the corp in the first place?



If the corp were Communist (is it?), I would see your point. Otherwise, no. 100% isk committment demands some kind of positive reimbursment in the end for the sacrifice to the corp.


Lady Aja
Posted - 2011.06.08 03:31:00 - [10]
 

100% tax is just one way of discouraging pve in times of war.

you can

A. pve with 100% tax
B. get ganked while at war no matter what the taxes
C. remain docked.
D. leave corp and forever stay in a npc corp.

Burn Jita Down
Posted - 2011.06.08 03:54:00 - [11]
 

I think it's to help prevent you being scanned down and ganked like an idiot. But if you don't care about the corp anyway now's the perfect time to do dirty deeds behind their back with the enemy, blow up your CEO and take his stuff. Then tell him your clandestine behavior began with his commie tax policies.

Cpt Fina
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2011.06.08 04:04:00 - [12]
 

How terrible that the corp does such a thing against people who simply just want to grind missions while the corporation is threatened by war.

Yes, you should leave if grinding missions is more important than helping corpmembers out in time of need. But then I think you are missing the whole point of not just player corps but online interaction on a whole; it's not only "gimme gimme gimme" it's also about sacrifice.

Sakura Ren Fenikkusu
Posted - 2011.06.08 04:28:00 - [13]
 

I have issue with any corporation/alliance that raises taxes to 100% for long periods of time with the only reason being to discourage PvE.

I don't have a problem with taxes being raised during a CTA operation, as long as the taxes are lowered as soon as the operation completes.

For example, a hostile entity is invading your alliance's space. It is fine to call a CTA to defend/repair a tower when it comes out of reinforced, and raise taxes to 100% while on the operation to defend/repair that tower is underway. But as soon as the tower to defended/repaired/lost and everyone returns home safely the tax should be lowered.

It would be wrong to raise taxes for the entire period of time that the hostile entity is invading, with no break in raised taxes.


Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.06.08 05:43:00 - [14]
 

OP is not built for Eve University.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.06.08 05:48:00 - [15]
 

If you're not willing to help your corp out when at war, you should probably just stay in an NPC corp or go solo.

The whole point is to work together...be it defending yourselves or what not...

Doesn't sound like you should really be in a corp if you're not willing to put in the effort to help.

Skydell
Caldari
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.06.08 05:49:00 - [16]
 

CTA tax is 100%
I've never heard of war dec bringing CTA but I kind of admire them for trying. If its a good corp and alliance, absorb the pain, help out. Soon they will figure out war dec is a lamer undock camp fest and won't CTA them but you should applauf them for putting up. They should boot your ass to the curb for not.

Michelle Devereux
Posted - 2011.06.08 06:44:00 - [17]
 

Apparently this is seen as a necessary measure to prevent giving the wardeccers easy lulzkills and thus provinding an incentive to prolong the war.
Unfortunate, but apparently necessary as OP has proven.

Originally by: Wa'roun
OP is not built for Eve University.


This is no longer the case though. Missionrunners and miners during a war now simply get kicked (popped first if found in flagranti).

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.06.08 06:52:00 - [18]
 

After a whine like that I'd suspect the corp would have just kicked you by now.

Grutry
Minmatar
Eon Mining
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:11:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Grutry on 08/06/2011 07:13:09
Some of you guys are saying that I'm not wanting to put in the effort to help my alliance out, which is kinda true. But they're in a one-way system with about 200 alliance people on the gate. I don't think one more person would make a difference against a 15 man corp. And, the enemy corp is all in the neighboring systems of where my alliance is. I'm exactly 32 jumps away.

Dawn Flare
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:11:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Dawn Flare on 08/06/2011 07:13:22
For the love of... If you are in a corp, the point is to work together. If you are actively hurting the corp by being out and getting ganked cause your to dumb not to PvE while at war then yeah, you should totally have to pay a 100% tax to compensate for the additional losses you are causing your corpmates(by making the corp look like an easy target, which will cause the wardec to be extended/more wardecs to happen)

If you can't deal with pvp, eve may in fact not be the game for you. Rolling Eyes

Edit: Somehow, I think you may have convinced more people to wardec your alliance with just this post. I know I am gonna be trying to figure out where you live to get roams going in that direction for easy killz YARRRR!!

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:20:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Grey Stormshadow on 08/06/2011 07:44:54
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Eyup Mi'duck
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:29:00 - [22]
 

If you like the corp and like the pvp, stick with it, as long as the 100% tax is a temporary thing. Otherwise, give two fingers to their outrageous draconian demands on you, and go find another corp more suited to your requirements.

But what most people do is use an alt or a second account toon whilst a war is on, which will let you take a break from the constant camping etc. and work round the wardec and the 100% tax if you need to do other stuff. Many players have multiple persona's both in-game and on the forums - some open, some secret.

Ynot Eyob
Minmatar
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:37:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Ynot Eyob on 08/06/2011 07:46:20
Originally by: Grutry
My corp recently raised it's tax rate from 8% to 100!!! Evil or Very Mad
Our alliance just got into a war... with a 15 man corp. So that's pretty lame that we have to have a gate camp with like 200 people. So I went 20 or so jumps out and brought my drake so i could run missions and make some isk without the alliance telling me otherwise. So our ceo comes on and says that she raised the tax to 100 to discourage missioning and mining. I don't know how long the war will last, probably only a week, but this is bull. So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?


I would do just the exact same. Eighter your a part of something or you are not. If you run 20 jumps to run missions, the war targets will just run a locator on you, probe you down, kill you and extend the war due the fun they have killing people. So while you are thinking of your self, your hurting your hole alliance, not just corp, and risk X alliance members will be at war even longer.

For some thats cool, for someone like you, you wouldnt survive in that corp for long as "All you can" is spinning your ship in a hanger crying about being unable to undock and why noone is doing anything twas this war.

My 2 cent

knanid volatar
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:42:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: knanid volatar on 08/06/2011 07:52:08
Originally by: Grutry
...But they're in a one-way system with about 200 alliance people on the gate. I don't think one more person would make a difference against a 15 man corp.


I don't know what is worse about this thread, the fact that you are whining because your CEO has the nerve to try and coerce you into helping out, or the fact there are people agreeing with you.

Am paging your CEO to this thread to see what they think of your whininess... who knows perhaps she will make the decision for you and boot you out (I know I would).

edit - and for the record:

You have been in your corp for 2 and a half months (not 5)
Your present corp tax is 8% - implying that the tax is at 100% purely for CTA's and you are being disingenuous with the facts because the last CTA was during your prime play time.

bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:42:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Grutry
My corp recently raised it's tax rate from 8% to 100!!! Evil or Very Mad
Our alliance just got into a war... with a 15 man corp. So that's pretty lame that we have to have a gate camp with like 200 people. So I went 20 or so jumps out and brought my drake so i could run missions and make some isk without the alliance telling me otherwise. So our ceo comes on and says that she raised the tax to 100 to discourage missioning and mining. I don't know how long the war will last, probably only a week, but this is bull. So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?


You should join any ex-NC Alliance/Corp, they were full of ppl like you ( maybe thats why they now in Jita ). hurrr


Grutry
Minmatar
Eon Mining
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:56:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: knanid volatar
Edited by: knanid volatar on 08/06/2011 07:52:08
Originally by: Grutry
...But they're in a one-way system with about 200 alliance people on the gate. I don't think one more person would make a difference against a 15 man corp.


I don't know what is worse about this thread, the fact that you are whining because your CEO has the nerve to try and coerce you into helping out, or the fact there are people agreeing with you.

Am paging your CEO to this thread to see what they think of your whininess... who knows perhaps she will make the decision for you and boot you out (I know I would).

edit - and for the record:

You have been in your corp for 2 and a half months (not 5)
Your present corp tax is 8% - implying that the tax is at 100% purely for CTA's and you are being disingenuous with the facts because the last CTA was during your prime play time.

First: my old corp, miner creations is the same corp as im in now, we moved for alliance benefit.
Second: Great, they must have heard 43 other guys in my corp also *****ing about this.

Anne Arqui
Minmatar
Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
Posted - 2011.06.08 07:58:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Grutry
should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?

Go mining? Very Happy

Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.08 08:01:00 - [28]
 

Form your own Corp. That way the in-Corp chatter channel is more interesting.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.06.08 08:03:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Grutry
So I'm asking you, should i leave the corp after being in it for 5 months being treated not so great, or should i keep going?

I think you should have your eyes checked... because your corp still has a 8% tax rate and didn't change it since March.

There is only one corp in your alliance that changed its tax rate to 100% for 3 days in late April and it has 5 members...

knanid volatar
Posted - 2011.06.08 08:08:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Grutry

First: my old corp, miner creations is the same corp as im in now, we moved for alliance benefit.


So your corp folded into another, it happens, but guess what that still means you have only been in your present corp for just over 2 and a half months.

Originally by: Grutry
Second: Great, they must have heard 43 other guys in my corp also *****ing about this.


So basically everyone in your corp except the CEO feels that they shouldnt have to work together as part of a team in times of war. Sounds like a really good corp... Rolling Eyes.



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