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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:39:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/06/2011 23:12:37
Hi CCP.

Could we have an App or client to change skills and also experience in game service like mining, trading or combat on either iPad, iPhone or tablets please?

It is because combined tablets and smartphones sales will surpass PC soon and it means if we have iPhone, iPad or tablets clients soon, we can actually play Eve on the go.

It also means we can have new friends in this ever going Eve community.

Not forgetting it means CCP is practising prudence in making Eve available on consumerlised platforms in the near future. There will be one tablet bought every minute.

Arrow Tablets To Surpass Laptop Sales In 2015, One Third Of US Consumers Will Own One: http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/tablets-to-surpass-laptop-sales-in-2015-one-third-of-us-consumers-will-own-one-12356/

Arrow Combined sales of smartphones and tablets to surpass the humble PC in 18 months, says IDC: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/combined-sales-of-smartphones-and-tablets-to-surpass-the-humble/

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:41:00 - [2]
 

if you're playing eve on the go, you must be really bored.


i kid.

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:42:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Albetta on 06/06/2011 18:43:34
No. Tablets would be good only for an application like evegate that allows for answering messages and changing skills. Mining, combat, etc like you suggested would be too intense for tablets.

Corina's Bodyguard
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:42:00 - [4]
 

High end tabs can already play EVE (just not on max settings do to pathetic GPU cooling (not much room for a real fan).

Maybe when they make a liquid cooled tab we could really play EVE (and other semi-high graphics games) on tabs. But till then, they are limited by their lack of heat prevention.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:49:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Ayieka
if you're playing eve on the go, you must be really bored.


i kid.


I have to. My job takes a lot of my time. I would really love to play while waiting for taxis, buses or trains and in office when there's a short break.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:52:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/06/2011 18:52:09
Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard
High end tabs can already play EVE (just not on max settings do to pathetic GPU cooling (not much room for a real fan).

Maybe when they make a liquid cooled tab we could really play EVE (and other semi-high graphics games) on tabs. But till then, they are limited by their lack of heat prevention.


Or they can make an Eve Light, Eve Diet, Eve Zero or Eve Tablet for smartphones and tablets. I know many of us are really interested in this option.

Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.06 18:56:00 - [7]
 

Yeah - I'm on my iPad most of the time, and can't play Eve all that often. I'd at least kill for a companion app that has local chat (based on where your character is currently), EveVoice, a way to view the overview, a better fitting tool, a way to update and do PI and contracts. Essentially anything non-combat related.

Sir Oliver Midwestshire
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.06 19:27:00 - [8]
 

Right! Just copy and paste the EVE code into a tablet program! It's not like they will have to completely rewrite the game engine and spend thousands of dollars in development and testing on a platform they have absolutely no experience with!

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 19:32:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Jim Luc
Yeah - I'm on my iPad most of the time, and can't play Eve all that often. I'd at least kill for a companion app that has local chat (based on where your character is currently), EveVoice, a way to view the overview, a better fitting tool, a way to update and do PI and contracts. Essentially anything non-combat related.


Golly, Jim. You've hit a nail on the coffin. These features are a must have. Combat, whilst you think it is an option, I would prefer to have it too because running missions (unlikely with short breaks) and quick skirmish against non-computer players (very likely) can be important especially when friends are needed to do something together.

Also, combat features are important because tablets will be a large percentage of computer ownership in the near future. Put it simply, some realistic numbers I am one person who has four computers. One iPhone, iPad, BlackBerry and a laptop. That is I own 3 tablets and 1 PC. If Eve Tablet client was available, I can access Eve on three platforms that I usually have almost on a 24 hour basis.

That's Eve 365.25 days a year for the layman. Shocked

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 19:37:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Hermann Fegelein
Right! Just copy and paste the EVE code into a tablet program! It's not like they will have to completely rewrite the game engine and spend thousands of dollars in development and testing on a platform they have absolutely no experience with!


Tablet, PC, phones. Isn't it just another machine? I mean Apps that run on the iPhone can run on the iPad. Make one Eve Tablet, you can have it on phones and tablets.

Wouldn't that be good business sense for both CCP and the community?

I just cannot understand why some players are so against or be so destructive to see Eve progressing for the better ...

Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
Posted - 2011.06.06 20:08:00 - [11]
 

CCP has talked about this in the past. For it to be reality it would have to not introduce much in the way of development time.

While I think it would be nice, I just don't see it happening, with everything CCP has in the pipeline, they just don't have the bandwidth for another project like this without greatly increasing the Eve playerbase and therefore the revenue stream.

Besides, you same people in here begging for the iApp would be *****ing about how they are not fixing bugs/lag/<insert your pet bug here>.

Kerrisone
Posted - 2011.06.06 20:09:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Hermann Fegelein
Right! Just copy and paste the EVE code into a tablet program! It's not like they will have to completely rewrite the game engine and spend thousands of dollars in development and testing on a platform they have absolutely no experience with!


Tablet, PC, phones. Isn't it just another machine? I mean Apps that run on the iPhone can run on the iPad. Make one Eve Tablet, you can have it on phones and tablets.

Wouldn't that be good business sense for both CCP and the community?

I just cannot understand why some players are so against or be so destructive to see Eve progressing for the better ...


I'm against it for purely personnel selfish reasons that I don't have access/time to such a device or the ability to 'play' on the go like when I'm at work as some people might.

Having said that this is CCP who've ditched support for Linux, Costs too much/not enough users, ditched support of older hardware, costs too much not enough users plus **** you buy new hardware, etc.

Seems to me they aren't interested in spending more money on developing for another platform whatever those costs. Now they've said they want to add more features to evegate so that is a 'door' to add more content accessibility for some people to at least do more on the go in game.

Sig Sour
Posted - 2011.06.06 20:13:00 - [13]
 

I want to pvp someone who is using a tablet or even better an iPhone.

Not-Apsalar
Posted - 2011.06.06 20:32:00 - [14]
 

Just use remote desktop to your PC. It works fine, at least fine enough to get in, set your skills, and get out.

Mister Rocknrolla
Posted - 2011.06.06 21:48:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire


Or they can make an Eve Light, Eve Diet, Eve Zero or Eve Tablet for smartphones and tablets. I know many of us are really interested in this option.


Call it "Eve Station" wherein you only have access to all station services. No flight. Anything you can do in a station, you could do with this minimal client.


Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 21:57:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/06/2011 21:59:12
Originally by: Sig Sour
I want to pvp someone who is using a tablet or even better an iPhone.


This is viable on tablets because their sizes are getting bigger. Phones, that'll be interesting but since if Eve App works on tablets, it should work on phones.

People on the go wouldn't be fussed about sizes on phones since most would not using it for P2P but they would welcome the free accessibility as featured on tablets.


Originally by: Not-Apsalar
Just use remote desktop to your PC. It works fine, at least fine enough to get in, set your skills, and get out.


That's a good idea but not that economically feasible on 3G. It is something that would make do for now but not future proof.

The future is more tablets or phones bought than PCs as I have mentioned earlier, as it has the potential growth of 400%. My god, that's four hundred percent.

The figure is seen from current trend like I have an iPhone, iPad, BlackBerry and a PC that is 3x new computing devices than a traditional PC. I am sure others would have 2x new computing devices than a traditional PC. Most importantly, they are accessible almost anywhere!

With dedicated Apps, it would be just data between tablets and CCP. If I were to use remote desktop, I believe I am transferring the entire image. This means more money lost from the player on the go.

Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire


Or they can make an Eve Light, Eve Diet, Eve Zero or Eve Tablet for smartphones and tablets. I know many of us are really interested in this option.


Call it "Eve Station" wherein you only have access to all station services. No flight. Anything you can do in a station, you could do with this minimal client.




Eve Station is good. But as I mentioned earlier, long term evolution is that tablets can play games. Why not have a dedicated Eve App that can also do PC gaming? Phones and tablets can play console-like games these days. PC-like gaming is the next step.

Heck, first there was Angry Birds on iPhones. Now, there's Angry Birds on PCs. I am using Angry Birds here because it is a very well known game or brand. Just like Lady Gaga.

Mister Rocknrolla
Posted - 2011.06.06 22:08:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Mister Rocknrolla on 06/06/2011 22:08:29
Imagine being able to run one of those theoretical command ships that they showed at the FF2009 Dust demo. Coordinate a planetary attack while riding the train to work.

If CCP is all about expanding the number of vectors into New Eden, this seems like it should be an easy sell.

The beauty of it is, they only have to do like 65% of it, release it then abandon it. Then file it with FW, PI, Eve Gate, etc.




Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:00:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 06/06/2011 23:03:53
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Hi CCP.

Could we have a client to change skills and also experience in game service like mining, trading or combat on either iPad, iPhone or tablets please?

It is because combined tablets and smartphones sales will surpass PC soon and it means if we have iPhone, iPad or tablets clients soon, we can actually play Eve on the go.

It also means we can have new friends in this ever going Eve community.

Not forgetting it means CCP is practising prudence in making Eve available on consumerlised platforms in the near future. There will be one tablet bought every minute.

Arrow Tablets To Surpass Laptop Sales In 2015, One Third Of US Consumers Will Own One: http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/tablets-to-surpass-laptop-sales-in-2015-one-third-of-us-consumers-will-own-one-12356/

Arrow Combined sales of smartphones and tablets to surpass the humble PC in 18 months, says IDC: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/combined-sales-of-smartphones-and-tablets-to-surpass-the-humble/

Believe me, this topic has come up and been requested MANY times with little to no response from CCP. There certainly is a demand for it, but it's up to CCP to supply it and currently it looks like a no go Sad

As it currently stands, EvE Gate is a complete waste of developer efforts and a useless feature. Especially since almost everything that you can do with EvE Gate you can already do with a 3rd party smartphone app. The features that are exclusively EvE Gate features are worthless anyways and barely warrants mention.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:11:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/06/2011 23:11:26
Originally by: Cyprus Black
Edited by: Cyprus Black on 06/06/2011 23:03:53
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Hi CCP.

Could we have a client to change skills and also experience in game service like mining, trading or combat on either iPad, iPhone or tablets please?

It is because combined tablets and smartphones sales will surpass PC soon and it means if we have iPhone, iPad or tablets clients soon, we can actually play Eve on the go.

It also means we can have new friends in this ever going Eve community.

Not forgetting it means CCP is practising prudence in making Eve available on consumerlised platforms in the near future. There will be one tablet bought every minute.

Arrow Tablets To Surpass Laptop Sales In 2015, One Third Of US Consumers Will Own One: http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/tablets-to-surpass-laptop-sales-in-2015-one-third-of-us-consumers-will-own-one-12356/

Arrow Combined sales of smartphones and tablets to surpass the humble PC in 18 months, says IDC: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/combined-sales-of-smartphones-and-tablets-to-surpass-the-humble/

Believe me, this topic has come up and been requested MANY times with little to no response from CCP. There certainly is a demand for it, but it's up to CCP to supply it and currently it looks like a no go Sad

As it currently stands, EvE Gate is a complete waste of developer efforts and a useless feature. Especially since almost everything that you can do with EvE Gate you can already do with a 3rd party smartphone app. The features that are exclusively EvE Gate features are worthless anyways and barely warrants mention.


Golly. This is kind of sad that CCP is not looking at Apps. I mean the whole planet is churning Apps every single day and it is sad that it is not being considered and overlooked even though the demand is there. Eve App would be a God's gift to the community.

I do however see a point with Eve Gate. As it is now, a web based Eve Gate means Eve is one step more accessible by everyone on any platform. However, the next step would be a more featured Eve in the form of an App.

Come on, CCP. Make it happen.

Treiq
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:30:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:31:47
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:30:34
You guys don't pay attention at all do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0#t=49m50s

But yeah, there isn't really much CCP can do with your sucky ipads and low end smartphones... You need a beast to run this.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:38:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 06/06/2011 23:40:05
Originally by: Treiq
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:31:47
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:30:34
You guys don't pay attention at all do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0#t=49m50s

But yeah, there isn't really much CCP can do with your sucky ipads and low end smartphones... You need a beast to run this.


Really thats a scaled down version. Its only capabilities is the "View Ship" aspect. I don't believe it can actually run EvE.

Sir Oliver Midwestshire
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:48:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Hermann Fegelein
Right! Just copy and paste the EVE code into a tablet program! It's not like they will have to completely rewrite the game engine and spend thousands of dollars in development and testing on a platform they have absolutely no experience with!


Tablet, PC, phones. Isn't it just another machine? I mean Apps that run on the iPhone can run on the iPad. Make one Eve Tablet, you can have it on phones and tablets.

Wouldn't that be good business sense for both CCP and the community?

I just cannot understand why some players are so against or be so destructive to see Eve progressing for the better ...


It's different. CCP will have to recode the entire game to make sure it is compatible with the tablet and smartphone. Everything will need to be re-coded, as they will have to figure out how to make the game work without some of the things a computer has. Not only that, but they have to make sure the tablet has the proper specs to run the game. And like someone previously said, the device would overheat as it doesn't have an efficient method of cooling for a game on EVE's scale.

I don't have anything against the idea itself. From a creative standpoint it should be done and if it could CCP would of probably done it already. However smartphone and tablet technology is still in it's infancy. The mighty Iphone hasn't even been around for a full decade.

Please consider the technical aspects of the game before making future suggestions. If designing a fully functioning game was as easy as you try to make it sound, there would be a lot more games out there.

Foralai Altrus
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:54:00 - [23]
 

Considering how little they want to support anything but the core client, and only if it handles all the shiny bits.

Never going to happen.

They could have kept the lite client deal so they had a broader range of users but now they are limiting it with the shaders and other system requirements as they add in incarna's content (and making it mandatory)

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.06 23:59:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 06/06/2011 23:40:05
Originally by: Treiq
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:31:47
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:30:34
You guys don't pay attention at all do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0#t=49m50s

But yeah, there isn't really much CCP can do with your sucky ipads and low end smartphones... You need a beast to run this.


Really thats a scaled down version. Its only capabilities is the "View Ship" aspect. I don't believe it can actually run EvE.


Wow. This is just wow and good for a start. It is progress!

CCP now needs to materialise a playable mobile client. The future is in our hands!

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.06.07 00:02:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 07/06/2011 00:02:20
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 06/06/2011 23:40:05
Originally by: Treiq
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:31:47
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:30:34
You guys don't pay attention at all do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0#t=49m50s

But yeah, there isn't really much CCP can do with your sucky ipads and low end smartphones... You need a beast to run this.


Really thats a scaled down version. Its only capabilities is the "View Ship" aspect. I don't believe it can actually run EvE.


Wow. This is just wow and good for a start. It is progress!

CCP now needs to materialise a playable mobile client. The future is in our hands!


No. There once was a time where there was a lite version of Eve. This was removed due to the increase of production time when coding 2 different clients. Its wasted production time for something that will only be used by a small % of people. If anything they will just add some more capabilities to evegate and that is your mobile Eve.

Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
Posted - 2011.06.07 00:03:00 - [26]
 

Oh the irony of using "smartphone" and "iPhone" in the same post.

Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.07 00:33:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 07/06/2011 00:02:20
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 06/06/2011 23:40:05
Originally by: Treiq
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:31:47
Edited by: Treiq on 06/06/2011 23:30:34
You guys don't pay attention at all do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0#t=49m50s

But yeah, there isn't really much CCP can do with your sucky ipads and low end smartphones... You need a beast to run this.


Really thats a scaled down version. Its only capabilities is the "View Ship" aspect. I don't believe it can actually run EvE.


Wow. This is just wow and good for a start. It is progress!

CCP now needs to materialise a playable mobile client. The future is in our hands!


No. There once was a time where there was a lite version of Eve. This was removed due to the increase of production time when coding 2 different clients. Its wasted production time for something that will only be used by a small % of people. If anything they will just add some more capabilities to evegate and that is your mobile Eve.



Not to mention they'll have to code EvE Lite on Android and Apple OS at the least and probably Windows Mobile aswell For smartphone and tablet models and debugging all that + regular Windows/Mac clients....

Yea thats a ridiculously massive undertaking for what exactly? so 2% of the population can rat while taking a sh*t? Once EvE Gates improved (Chat channels, working EvE Voice, updating market orders and contracts etc etc) all working in browser thats gonna be awesome to use on any platform and makes far more sense for EvE "on the go".

Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
Posted - 2011.06.07 00:49:00 - [28]
 

/signed

I've actually been toying with the idea of using an RDP on my iPad/iPhone to access my home computer to play EVE; even read a few topics on here discussing such options.

I know I won't be able to do high FPS activity like pve/pvp, but I think market trading and maybe setting freighter runs or ice mining might be possible.

ofc, an app from ccp would be preferable,


but in the mean time...

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.07 00:56:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Saint Lazarus

Not to mention they'll have to code EvE Lite on Android and Apple OS at the least and probably Windows Mobile aswell For smartphone and tablet models and debugging all that + regular Windows/Mac clients....

Yea thats a ridiculously massive undertaking for what exactly? so 2% of the population can rat while taking a sh*t? Once EvE Gates improved (Chat channels, working EvE Voice, updating market orders and contracts etc etc) all working in browser thats gonna be awesome to use on any platform and makes far more sense for EvE "on the go".


Well, they can extend the Carbon code to Silicon code that is easily suitable for mobile platforms and once they have it, the front end would be easy to deal with for Winlet, iPhones and Android. Of course, they can pick platforms that are widely used first to start with.

Maybe Eve App for Android then iPhones before Winlet.

I really doubt only 2% would be interested for taking Eve in performing bodily functions. It is Eve Everywhere.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.07 20:23:00 - [30]
 

So will there be any official statement from CCP on their vision for an Eve App? I know many of us are very interested in it.


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