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Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:06:00 - [1]
 

Align To (A), Warp To (S), and Dock (D) hotkeys have changed functionality.

Before Patch 1.6, I could select a destination in the Overview (e.g., stargate, station, celestial) and as long as the Overview retained focus, pressing A, S, or D would align my ship, warp my ship, or dock my ship with the object selected.

Post Patch 1.6, I now have to hold down the hotkey, and then click the object in the Overview. For transport blockcade running (cloak-warping), this is obviously much more of a pain in the ass, and far more dangerous.

It would be nice if the UI could be worked to allow the A, S, and D hotkeys to function as they did previously.

voiddragon
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:10:00 - [2]
 

It's the first I've learned of it, but I'm wondering if it's an attempt to combat botting. Who knows.

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:12:00 - [3]
 

ahha...I knew there was a reason all the mission botters never logged in today. That would probably be it.


Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:15:00 - [4]
 

If that's the case, that sucks ... so much convenience for actual players has to be removed to combat douchebags. In this game and many other MMOs.

CHAOS100
The Ankou
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: CHAOS100 on 01/06/2011 01:18:13
So my mouse side buttons no longer work for drone engage/withdraw.

Was broke on test server too. Glad to see ccp fixed nothing from the test server patch.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:22:00 - [6]
 

Would be nice if this change was by design, that CCP could tell us so, and the reason why. Rather that wondering if it is just a bug, and when it might be fixed.

Orlacc
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:23:00 - [7]
 

I noticed this as well. I used to target then click hotkey now it is reversed. No biggie, but of course botters would be borked.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:28:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 01/06/2011 01:34:54


It is kinda a big deal.

Previously, I'd select my object in Overview, then press A (Align To), then half second later, F1 and F2 (cloak on, MWD on) ... press F2 again, so that MWD only cycles once, then just as the MWD cycle ends, press F1 (turn cloak off) and S (Warp To) in rapid succession ... immediate warp to target, avoid gate camp.

Now, the process is more painful. Hold down A key, then click object in Overview, then press F1 and F2. As MWD cycle is about to end, press F1, press and hold S while clicking object in Overview again. All the while, have to hope something new doesn't enter grid and misclick the wrong object.

voiddragon
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:32:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 01/06/2011 01:28:52
All the while, have to hope something new doesn't enter grid and you misclick the wrong object.


I wouldn't worry about that. If it's similar to the ctrl target ability, then the overview freezes when you're holding the hotkey down.

But yeah, I understand your point that the regular eve player lost out on the account of the bots.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:37:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: voiddragon
I wouldn't worry about that. If it's similar to the ctrl target ability, then the overview freezes when you're holding the hotkey down.

Well, if that is the case (and it probably is), then that makes the process slightly less worrisome ... I just have to get a whole new timing down, making use of the mouse ... I have to two-hand it now, rather than just the left-handed action I had previously. :)

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.01 03:11:00 - [11]
 

Well to be honest hotkey functionality has pretty much returned to what it was before patch - what many thinks - broke it.

Here is the devblock about the patch when they changed it

...and here is the discussion thread related to to that patch

Read it thru and you will notice that some like this, some like that... anyways this select click method which was introduced actually did bring few annoyances along. Personally worst two for me were possibility to accidentally target someone with ctrl key and alt tabbing resulting to random camera positioning.

Anyways just facts to give some background to this thread....

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 04:53:00 - [12]
 

Quote:
Combat shortcuts

I think that most people agree that targeting stuff through CTRL+Click is the way to go. We decided to iterate on this and introduce combat shortcuts. Long story short, you can now do most in-space essentials like warp, approach, orbit, keep at range, etc. by holding down the designated shortcut key and clicking the target. Those shortcut keys are of course configurable, but the defaults are conveniently bound to buttons on the left side of the keyboard:

A : Align to, Q: Approach, D:Dock/Jump/Activate gate, E: Keep at range, CTRL: Toggle lock target, ALT: Toggle look at, W: Orbit, T: Show info, S: Warp to

Rolling EyesRolling Eyes
Don't like clicking?

Fine. In that case you might be interested to know that you can execute the combat shortcuts explained above through your keyboard alone. Simply set focus to the overview (there is even a new shortcut to do that; ALT+SPACE) and press one of the combat shortcut keys.
Rolling EyesRolling Eyes


It's the stuff between the Rolling EyesRolling Eyes's that changed with 1.6. That method of using the hotkeys no longer works. Which is increasingly ****ing me off the more I play today.

Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
Posted - 2011.06.01 04:57:00 - [13]
 

Yep... there prolly should be option to enable and disable that to make everyone happy.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.01 07:55:00 - [14]
 

This is a known issue and we are already working on a fix.

Please use this thread for reporting further issues.


Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.06.01 17:19:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
This is a known issue and we are already working on a fix.

Please use this thread for reporting further issues.


I did indeed submit a bug report on the issue, Mr. Spitfire. But it is extra nice to hear that it is a known issue and that a fix is being worked on.


 

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