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Jaari Val'Dara
Caldari
Deep Space Nomads Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:01:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha

Those who are just too dumb to read in months of forewarning and easily predict what will happen with PLEX deserve to work hard to feed those who were not dumb.
None forces anyone to learn the 101 of economy, but then you pay the consequences.




Not everyone has a capital big enough to deal in plexes.

Akira Samposeppa
Gallente
Arthashastra
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:03:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:15:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 09:16:14
Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Cry harder. There's always a way to earn money, you should either try harder or adapt and lower your expectations. And if it's that hard to find a job in your specific country, then you shouldn't spend time playing videogames anyway. "Hot damn, I got fired and I can't find a new job now... GAMING TIME!"?
The point remains, and if you can't earn money, it's your own problem.

Akira Samposeppa
Gallente
Arthashastra
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:31:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: Akira Samposeppa on 01/06/2011 09:32:02
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 09:16:14
Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Cry harder. There's always a way to earn money, you should either try harder or adapt and lower your expectations. And if it's that hard to find a job in your specific country, then you shouldn't spend time playing videogames anyway. "Hot damn, I got fired and I can't find a new job now... GAMING TIME!"?
The point remains, and if you can't earn money, it's your own problem.


Lol...

Some people are so oblivious to the world around them.

Few facts for you sunshine:
*I didnt get fired,in my country people with college education are without jobs and some of them digging in the trash.

*No matter what you do and how hard you try you cant find a job.

*Playing video games is a entertainment activity, yes, but if you have enough income(as i do by luck) to pay for electricity, food, internet (but 15$ means you a lot mind you, coz 15$ in your country and 15$ in my country is not the same value, my monthly internet bill is around 15$ for example)why not, your alternatives are watching the grass growing or staring into walls.

*If you have no options what so ever there is no harm in playing video games, maybe even it can do some good like dispelling your thoughts on the cruel reality for a while.


Just to be clear, i am not whining about plex prices coz i have my stockpile of isk for a few months, i just honestly get ****ed off at immature and pathetic comments like yours, just that.

Same if i tell you that i laughed at your mothers death.
Trolling with RL stuff is not cool..mkay?

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:44:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Edited by: Akira Samposeppa on 01/06/2011 09:32:02
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 09:16:14
Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Cry harder. There's always a way to earn money, you should either try harder or adapt and lower your expectations. And if it's that hard to find a job in your specific country, then you shouldn't spend time playing videogames anyway. "Hot damn, I got fired and I can't find a new job now... GAMING TIME!"?
The point remains, and if you can't earn money, it's your own problem.


Lol...

Some people are so oblivious to the world around them.

Few facts for you sunshine:
*I didnt get fired,in my country people with college education are without jobs and some of them digging in the trash.

*No matter what you do and how hard you try you cant find a job.

*Playing video games is a entertainment activity, yes, but if you have enough income(as i do by luck) to pay for electricity, food, internet (but 15$ means you a lot mind you, coz 15$ in your country and 15$ in my country is not the same value, my monthly internet bill is around 15$ for example)why not, your alternatives are watching the grass growing or staring into walls.

*If you have no options what so ever there is no harm in playing video games, maybe even it can do some good like dispelling your thoughts on the cruel reality for a while.


Just to be clear, i am not whining about plex prices coz i have my stockpile of isk for a few months, i just honestly get ****ed off at immature and pathetic comments like yours, just that.

Same if i tell you that i laughed at your mothers death.
Trolling with RL stuff is not cool..mkay?


Want me to hug you? :3

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:47:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 09:16:14
Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Cry harder. There's always a way to earn money, you should either try harder or adapt and lower your expectations. And if it's that hard to find a job in your specific country, then you shouldn't spend time playing videogames anyway. "Hot damn, I got fired and I can't find a new job now... GAMING TIME!"?
The point remains, and if you can't earn money, it's your own problem.
I can't lower my expectations anymore unless I work for free. literally.

well I could sell a kidney...

Zoroa Aulx-Gao
Koa Mai Hoku
Destiny Corrupted.
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:49:00 - [97]
 

Oh man Lidia, I can't wait for karma to kick you in the ****ing face.

Steve Seninard
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:49:00 - [98]
 

15 bucks. LOL really? People are really emoraging over 15 freaking dollars?

I love it.

How much do you slobs spend on cigs each month?

Gustav Knuttsen
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:50:00 - [99]
 

Well... If you not happy with PLEX price.. GET BETTER JOB !!!

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.01 09:56:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Steve Seninard
15 bucks. LOL really? People are really emoraging over 15 freaking dollars?

I love it.

How much do you slobs spend on cigs each month?
I could be emoraging if I was screaming like hell. and throwing hissy fits left and right. but no, I'm just trying to make a point on the fact that sometimes "getting a job" is actually a luxury many can't afford, no matter what is the education level, background, age, etc...

also I spend exactly 0 euros on cigs per year. being a non-smoker has these things.


that said, maybe I could sell a lung too. people actually work sorta well with just one lung, don't they?

Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:05:00 - [101]
 

Plex prices are subject to manipulation and iīm sure CCP is well aware of those accounts that hold large amounts of them and do actively look at the interactions those accounts have as part of other ongoing security efforts, so large stockpiles just say to them, hey, look at me.

.....so if you got loads of plex you also already got loads of oversight, you just didnīt know it









salty Milk
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:19:00 - [102]
 

there was no reason at all to include plex in the $>AUR chain

the only possible reason i can think of is that "illegal" macro RMT providers with their cheaper isk alternatives will help keep AUR from spiralling up/downwards out of control by pinning them to plex pricing

Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:23:00 - [103]
 

Oh the Ayn Rand followers and the other cults of self, grow up, you live in a complex society that is just one of countless complex societies on the planet, none are correct, but those who act like a whole prosper better than those who are under the control of the self centred few.

Eve may pander to your world view, thatīs why corps and alliances can get shafted by lone players, but behind the pixels are complex people with complex lives that you could never understand as you donīt have EMPATHY in any form at any level.

Plex price will vary, but they are a virtual item even though they have a real world application, and as a virtual item the ELUA phrase that should be of concern is:

CCP say, "all the pixels belong to us", you just pay for the privilege to use them, plex are pixels, they now belong to us.


McPod
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:29:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: McPod on 01/06/2011 10:29:45
Eve just turned into habbo hotel. I dont want to pick out curtains, i want to blow **** up.

Daniela Darr
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:35:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Steve Seninard
15 bucks. LOL really? People are really emoraging over 15 freaking dollars?
I love it.
How much do you slobs spend on cigs each month?
I could be emoraging if I was screaming like hell. and throwing hissy fits left and right. but no, I'm just trying to make a point on the fact that sometimes "getting a job" is actually a luxury many can't afford, no matter what is the education level, background, age, etc...

also I spend exactly 0 euros on cigs per year. being a non-smoker has these things.

that said, maybe I could sell a lung too. people actually work sorta well with just one lung, don't they?

Well playing EVE (or any pc game) isn't really what you'd call a primary need of life.
You can always unsub, you can live very well without.

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:35:00 - [106]
 

Plex is the legal rmt of eve, fine to me but the change plex/isk must be regulated to some lvl even if for that ccp must sell those via npc with severe conditions (1 per toon/account).

Things can be done, just a matter of will.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:46:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 01/06/2011 10:45:51
Originally by: Daniela Darr
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Steve Seninard
15 bucks. LOL really? People are really emoraging over 15 freaking dollars?
I love it.
How much do you slobs spend on cigs each month?
I could be emoraging if I was screaming like hell. and throwing hissy fits left and right. but no, I'm just trying to make a point on the fact that sometimes "getting a job" is actually a luxury many can't afford, no matter what is the education level, background, age, etc...

also I spend exactly 0 euros on cigs per year. being a non-smoker has these things.

that said, maybe I could sell a lung too. people actually work sorta well with just one lung, don't they?

Well playing EVE (or any pc game) isn't really what you'd call a primary need of life.
You can always unsub, you can live very well without.



LIES!!!! Shocked

Jack Abramof
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:50:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 07:42:35
If you'll think about it, who cares about people who can't even properly buy their gametime, who can't ever pay for services they are provided with? Too poor to pay $15? Are you kidding me?

Too poor? Pass on one drinking nightout.
Too young? Save pocket money.
Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.
Too dumb? Well, that can't be helped. Go play F2P.


Because you think someone care about your very poor view of people ?

1/ grow up
2/ stop play online games, goto see the world and meet people
3/ come back when less dumb.

thanks

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:52:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Miilla on 01/06/2011 10:52:45

I think they may lose some players with 2 or 3 or more accounts, end up selling them on the character bazzarr.

That doesn't really lose players though it just churns them to other customers.

However I see PLEX rising to 500m a Wonka Bar once they start being converted into AURUM, as supply thins out on the market due to destruction.

Also, Expect more PLEX to be sunk into Alliance Tournament as they may charge for the HD stream like FanFest.

So i see 3 PLEX sinks, 30 days game time, AURUM items and CCP Events (fanfest, Alliance tourney, and whatever events come in future to sink more PLEX).


Steve Seninard
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:54:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 01/06/2011 10:52:45

I think they may lose some players with 2 or 3 or more accounts, end up selling them on the character bazzarr.

That doesn't really lose players though it just churns them to other customers.

However I see PLEX rising to 500m a Wonka Bar once they start being converted into AURUM, as supply thins out on the market due to destruction.

Also, Expect more PLEX to be sunk into Alliance Tournament as they may charge for the HD stream like FanFest.

So i see 3 PLEX sinks, 30 days game time, AURUM items and CCP Events (fanfest, Alliance tourney, and whatever events come in future to sink more PLEX).




Good. I can't be arsed to run missions.

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.01 10:58:00 - [111]
 

Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 10:58:25
Originally by: Jack Abramof
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 07:42:35
If you'll think about it, who cares about people who can't even properly buy their gametime, who can't ever pay for services they are provided with? Too poor to pay $15? Are you kidding me?

Too poor? Pass on one drinking nightout.
Too young? Save pocket money.
Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.
Too dumb? Well, that can't be helped. Go play F2P.


Because you think someone care about your very poor view of people ?

1/ grow up
2/ stop play online games, goto see the world and meet people
3/ come back when less dumb.

thanks

Quote:
Because you think someone care about your very poor view of people ?

This.

And thanks for answering BTW, I guess with this amount of answers my post is a "successful troll"-one now. Hugz to you :3

Kogh Ayon
Posted - 2011.06.01 11:08:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Kogh Ayon on 01/06/2011 11:16:11
Edited by: Kogh Ayon on 01/06/2011 11:12:02
To op:

Do you mean there are lots people quiting WOW because it is not free?


Originally by: Jack Abramof
Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 07:42:35
If you'll think about it, who cares about people who can't even properly buy their gametime, who can't ever pay for services they are provided with? Too poor to pay $15? Are you kidding me?

Too poor? Pass on one drinking nightout.
Too young? Save pocket money.
Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.
Too dumb? Well, that can't be helped. Go play F2P.


Because you think someone care about your very poor view of people ?

1/ grow up
2/ stop play online games, goto see the world and meet people
3/ come back when less dumb.

thanks


True,He failed to see the fact that the very poor people will not care about what he said

Originally by: Akira Samposeppa

Some people are so oblivious to the world around them.

Few facts for you sunshine:
*I didnt get fired,in my country people with college education are without jobs and some of them digging in the trash.

*No matter what you do and how hard you try you cant find a job.

*Playing video games is a entertainment activity, yes, but if you have enough income(as i do by luck) to pay for electricity, food, internet (but 15$ means you a lot mind you, coz 15$ in your country and 15$ in my country is not the same value, my monthly internet bill is around 15$ for example)why not, your alternatives are watching the grass growing or staring into walls.

*If you have no options what so ever there is no harm in playing video games, maybe even it can do some good like dispelling your thoughts on the cruel reality for a while.


Just to be clear, i am not whining about plex prices coz i have my stockpile of isk for a few months, i just honestly get ****ed off at immature and pathetic comments like yours, just that.

Same if i tell you that i laughed at your mothers death.
Trolling with RL stuff is not cool..mkay?



What a percent of people from college in your country can't find a job?
Congratulations if you're one of the 5% of people.

The same to you: Work Hard and Find a Job.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.06.01 11:11:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 01/06/2011 11:11:37
Originally by: Daniela Darr
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Steve Seninard
15 bucks. LOL really? People are really emoraging over 15 freaking dollars?
I love it.
How much do you slobs spend on cigs each month?
I could be emoraging if I was screaming like hell. and throwing hissy fits left and right. but no, I'm just trying to make a point on the fact that sometimes "getting a job" is actually a luxury many can't afford, no matter what is the education level, background, age, etc...

also I spend exactly 0 euros on cigs per year. being a non-smoker has these things.

that said, maybe I could sell a lung too. people actually work sorta well with just one lung, don't they?

Well playing EVE (or any pc game) isn't really what you'd call a primary need of life.
You can always unsub, you can live very well without.

it's better than coming home after yet another failed attempt to getting a job and stare at reruns in the tv and getting depressedRazz

Mnengli Noiliffe
Posted - 2011.06.01 11:54:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 01/06/2011 11:57:50
Originally by: StillBorn CrackBaby
Personally if I had a business offering a product, customers who want service for no cash aren't the customers I want. I'd tell them to go elsewhere... Cheap buggers. No one has the "right" to play EVE, either pay up or get out...


Originally by: Sandwich PvP

Yes, but you aren't a paying CCP customer, so why would they care about your situation? Cool

the more plex costs, the less plex people who buy ISK with plex will need ot meet their target amount of ISK, the less "free" accounts will people who play for free have. And they dont' even need to "quit eve" - just reduce the number of accounts from 4 to 2 or something similar. Also some paying people have "free" accounts they pay with plex - they might drop those if they dont' pay for themselves any more. So less plex means less paying customers any way you twist it.

therefore, the more PLEX costs, the less money for CCP.

so I think they do care ...

also I believe CCP already intervenes, I mean I've seen 417/407 mil plex and then it quickly went back to 414/404. I also heard it used to be 420 but haven't seen it ...

I think CCP might inject plexes when price goes up too fast and when its stable they may remove them back but veeeery slooow.

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.06.01 12:30:00 - [115]
 

I for one am dropping 1 of my 3 accounts due to the current plex prices. Gonna wrap up some training on one of the chars, then move it to another account. It's just too much effort to keep it running. This is not because I'm poor irl, but a third account just isn't worth that extra isk or cash to me.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.01 12:44:00 - [116]
 

Well I think for CCP, the ideal situation is that there's a lot of vanity items being bought with AUR (which gets them extra income) and as little as possible game accounts being "payed" with plex (which doesn't make them more money over the $2.50+ fee they receive for selling a plex).

Negustor Cinstit
Posted - 2011.06.01 13:21:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
Edited by: Lidia Prince on 01/06/2011 09:16:14
Originally by: Akira Samposeppa
Originally by: Lidia Prince

Too "workless"? Go out and find a work you lazy piece of human garbage.



I really really IRL wish you would LOSE your job NOW.

And subsequently that you cant find another no matter what you do.

Cry harder. There's always a way to earn money, you should either try harder or adapt and lower your expectations. And if it's that hard to find a job in your specific country, then you shouldn't spend time playing videogames anyway. "Hot damn, I got fired and I can't find a new job now... GAMING TIME!"?
The point remains, and if you can't earn money, it's your own problem.


There are so many cases of people with low income which ended up like that due to so many varied reasons/situations that any person with at least a hint of intelligence would refrain from statements such as yours. Intelligence and some decency. You only see things from your own perspective and judging from your position; you might have worked for it and congratulations for that, some just cannot. It's not your place to bash or judge them. You're like telling someone from Africa "aaa, you're dieing of thirst?? DIG DEEPER!!"

Also, some people go on and say "work 4 more hours!". Really now? I would LOVE to be able to do overtime on my job whenever I want to, but it doesn't work that way. There are very few workplaces where you can do paid extratime whenever YOU want.

On top of that, funny that some poeple say that the ones struggling with their finances should stop playing/paying 15$. Maybe those few hours of gameplay is what makes them relax enough to overlook the hardships. It is a "GAME" after all you know, why are you so bitter?

And to end this long rant, I will never understand how some people turn up that bitter and mean towards totally unknown people. Annonimity brings out the worst of some people.

Krathos Morpheus
Legion Infernal
Posted - 2011.06.01 13:36:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Lidia Prince
And thanks for answering BTW, I guess with this amount of answers my post is a "successful troll"-one now. Hugz to you :3
You seem to think being a troll is somehow better that believing the things you said, only the same type of person would say those stupid things, no matter the reason. A hug doesn't excuse doing that on purpose, but I'll send you one back anyways just in case you can still feel the love and be healed. One wholeheartedly hug to you.

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.06.01 13:49:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Negustor Cinstit
On top of that, funny that some poeple say that the ones struggling with their finances should stop playing/paying 15$. Maybe those few hours of gameplay is what makes them relax enough to overlook the hardships. It is a "GAME" after all you know, why are you so bitter?

And to end this long rant, I will never understand how some people turn up that bitter and mean towards totally unknown people. Annonimity brings out the worst of some people.

Well why pay $120 a year while there's many free to play games around that may only require you to buy the game for perhaps $10? For some people, especially in non-western countries it's quite a lot of money.

Rico Minali
Gallente
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.06.01 13:53:00 - [120]
 

For all the people out there who are having difficulty understanding, if you pay by plex, CCP STILL GET PAID $15!! No one plays eve for free. No one.
So CCP cares as much about the guy paying by plex as the guy paying by cash, if the plex guy quits, thats a $15 sub gone just like a cash player.

Maybe itll stabilise, maybe it wont. Maybe itll be at a level where full time employed people can earn enough isk to play, and still have enough time to do what they really play for, like pvp, maybe it wont.

If it doesnt, people will stop playing, or reduce the amount of accounts they play on which is bad for CCP. If its bad for CCP, its bad for Eve and that means its bad for you.

Lets see what happens. If I need to cut down to one account then i will. I have a near perfect ice miner to sell off if that happens.. Anyone?



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