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Vhelnik Cojoin
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:08:00 - [811]
 

Have submitted detailed bug report for the crashing bug when clients jump through gates while running in the background in full screen mode.

Problem doesn't appear to require running two clients at once. I can reproduce it fairly often just by running one client at a time in the background, while working on the Desktop.

Bug #111740.

Bug report includes MiniDump, DxDiag.txt and LogServer files for one such crash in the attached ZIP archive.

tatsudoshi I
Gallente
The Venus Project - Zeitgeist Movement
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:10:00 - [812]
 

Originally by: Mr Gharzul
I am getting really sick and tired of your asswiper / asslicking behavior on the forums.

You are very welcome.


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CCP has a huge responsibility on this patch and the failure of it.

The failure is just as much the players who do not follow guidelines. Players how do not clean out the cache, running multiple clients on top of each other without junctions. The client does not support multiple instances, remember?

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At least give the players the room for sharing their frustrations and dissatisfaction. We don't hate EVE or CCP.

As I said in an earlier post, people need to grow up, implied grow a brain. Coming to the "issues" thread and ranting about this and that not working doesn't help anyone but the kid ranting and I am sick and tired of it so that is why I using this tone towards them. If you feel those posts somehow implies you then maybe there is something to it?

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There are simply too many major and very critical bugs, that is affecting the gameplay

For the most part all I have seen are warp tunnels on multiple client, PI, some shortcuts, flying backwards and salvaging. Some of that are cache, some running multi client wrong, the rest are bugs yes, but critical? Not really.

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The frustrations from the capsuleers are mainly how this could get through their QA department

True

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this is a valid reaction from us

The reaction that this is really annoying is valid and I agree. My point has always been on the way the reactions are shown. Some people act like little babies, as I said and that is even more annoying to me.

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You are completely lacking knowledge and understanding of proper (CR) 'Customer relations' and trust between customers and vendors

Well that is your opinion but it is subjective what one thinks is proper CR, within a margin.

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Your comments seems to be nature of either being 'blinded by emotional attachments to the game' or pure childishness

This is very ambiguous so I can't really reply on it.

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Either way you lack the sense of professionalism

I am glad then we do not work together.

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I am sorry if you are getting offended

I am not, I have always liked a good sound argumentation.

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...but you are simply offending almost everyone in here

You can't talk for everyone else, so I will assume you mean yourself.

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Please spare us from your comments about the comments

Sorry but I have the freedom of speech and I am not ranting or flaming but giving people feedback in the same tone I feel they are voicing theirs.

Thank you for your time.

Deperem Mac
Amarr
Amarr Space Purification
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:11:00 - [813]
 

Edited by: Deperem Mac on 02/06/2011 11:14:42
Originally by: DeDuivel
I run the lvl 4 recon mission and the last part with the green gasscloud,, well the debries is there but no gasscloud... also when i warp you supose to see that "warp tunnel" but its not there.

The client also decided to crash 4 times in 1 hour.


Same problems, plus some others. I don't dare run missions, or do anything else but mining because of these bugs. Don't want to lose my ship due to shield status not being shown, inability to warp, crash...etc. 'Cause I know if that happens and I petition for reimbursement.... "Our logs show nothing." Wink

Edit: To help narrow things down, I'm only running a single client.

Kopfy
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:12:00 - [814]
 

  • When running two clients on some machines, the client in the background crashes during jumping through the gate on the active client.


It also happens if your'e only running one client and the client is minimized while you jump through a gate.
The combination minimized client, jumping trough a gate and me doing something in chrome at the same time has resulted in two crashes for me so far.


phoenix0269
Gallente
Degrees of Freedom
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:14:00 - [815]
 

loss of missile and probe launcher sounds as well as torps
can hear explosions but not the launch and cant center on bm's when scanning running pc win xp pro

Mr Gharzul
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:21:00 - [816]
 

Originally by: tatsudoshi I
Originally by: Mr Gharzul
I am getting really sick and tired of your asswiper / asslicking behavior on the forums.

You are very welcome.


Quote:
CCP has a huge responsibility on this patch and the failure of it.

The failure is just as much the players who do not follow guidelines. Players how do not clean out the cache, running multiple clients on top of each other without junctions. The client does not support multiple instances, remember?

Quote:
At least give the players the room for sharing their frustrations and dissatisfaction. We don't hate EVE or CCP.

As I said in an earlier post, people need to grow up, implied grow a brain. Coming to the "issues" thread and ranting about this and that not working doesn't help anyone but the kid ranting and I am sick and tired of it so that is why I using this tone towards them. If you feel those posts somehow implies you then maybe there is something to it?

Quote:
There are simply too many major and very critical bugs, that is affecting the gameplay

For the most part all I have seen are warp tunnels on multiple client, PI, some shortcuts, flying backwards and salvaging. Some of that are cache, some running multi client wrong, the rest are bugs yes, but critical? Not really.

Quote:
The frustrations from the capsuleers are mainly how this could get through their QA department

True

Quote:
this is a valid reaction from us

The reaction that this is really annoying is valid and I agree. My point has always been on the way the reactions are shown. Some people act like little babies, as I said and that is even more annoying to me.

Quote:
You are completely lacking knowledge and understanding of proper (CR) 'Customer relations' and trust between customers and vendors

Well that is your opinion but it is subjective what one thinks is proper CR, within a margin.

Quote:
Your comments seems to be nature of either being 'blinded by emotional attachments to the game' or pure childishness

This is very ambiguous so I can't really reply on it.

Quote:
Either way you lack the sense of professionalism

I am glad then we do not work together.

Quote:
I am sorry if you are getting offended

I am not, I have always liked a good sound argumentation.

Quote:
...but you are simply offending almost everyone in here

You can't talk for everyone else, so I will assume you mean yourself.

Quote:
Please spare us from your comments about the comments

Sorry but I have the freedom of speech and I am not ranting or flaming but giving people feedback in the same tone I feel they are voicing theirs.

Thank you for your time.

LOL

You completely encircle the concept of pure stupidity. I have 10 years of software development experience. There are STILL too many critical bugs that have slipped through their QA.

I did not feel your comments were pointed at me...but your comments towards others made me sick.
I am not not going to babble more of this, and I will keep the thread for its purpose...you should find another thread you can make use of you 'freedom-of-speech' right and keep the thread for issues and dissatisfaction.

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I have experienced client crashes as well during jumps through gates. Somehow clearing the cache didn't fix the problem.
I am running EVE on vista.

tatsudoshi I
Gallente
The Venus Project - Zeitgeist Movement
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:24:00 - [817]
 

You are very much entitled to your opinions.

Fly safe.

Jhonny Pricegrabber
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:28:00 - [818]
 

Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:40:46
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:36:59
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:32:20
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:29:17
tatsudoshi I, man, please read what ppl are typing here.
You are acting, like there is no problem with the game.
Belive me, it is.
You blame players that it is their fault, that game isn't working for them, as it should?!
That they don't clear game's cache, that they are not using Eve Clients as they should?
Are you mad?
I've played this game (and other MMO games before it) for 1.5 year, every day, on multi clients on my Vista 7, using ALT+TAB method, and I've never had any problems with 2-3 accounts running. There was 0 crashes, ZERO, do you get it? NADA, NEVER, ok?
And now, every player who jumps thru gates gets crashes!
Do you capish finally, that is not a PC/operational system or player mistakes, but last PATCH was totally screwed up.

And this is just one issue (crashes - MAJOR ISSUE), but PI, SCANNING, Ship flying backwords - what are they in this game? SMALL BUGS?!

So tatsudoshi I, don't type your bull**** again, and re-think twice your arguments.
Maybe you are minimalist, maybe you have plastic china watch, and you are surrended by other cheap and breakable things in your life, but normal human always evolves towards perfection.

They fix nothing after today's DT - just great!

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:49:00 - [819]
 

Can we have an ETA on the market bug fix please? Currently the game is unplayable and if its a case of 'we are working on it with no idea of when it wil be fixed' then I see no reason to continue subscribing to something that i can get no use out of.

Mr Gharzul
Posted - 2011.06.02 11:59:00 - [820]
 

CCP please rollback to 1.5.
The game's current state is untenable. We are loosing money both in-game and as game subscribers. Incarna can wait as the 1.6 patch is more likely coupled to the incarna release.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:03:00 - [821]
 

CTD identified.

Forgive me if this has been covered already but the client will CTD under the following circumstances:

1. Open a container or wreck. Some of the graphics, usually a drone, will fail to load. Just giving an ! on a black background. Player will usually close the container.

2. A few seconds later the client will either become unresponsive or crash giving a fatal error msg.

Reproducable but not consistant. Guessing its a server/client synch issue but no idea ofc.

Especially annoying as it can happen during pve, pvp or in a possible ship losing encounter.

Dhargon Klaatu
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:09:00 - [822]
 

Planetary Interaction is still broken after downtime.
This will disrupt the markets severely.

This major patch was introduced without adequate warning and clearly has impacts beyond what was described.


Celia Therone
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:14:00 - [823]
 

Originally by: Karia Sur
Can we have an ETA on the market bug fix please? Currently the game is unplayable and if its a case of 'we are working on it with no idea of when it wil be fixed' then I see no reason to continue subscribing to something that i can get no use out of.


I bug reported this on 31st May and it has been attached to a defect. I included log server, picture and DxDiag. Their answering mail said that they were not aware of the problem and were creating a new defect for it.

Salomei
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:25:00 - [824]
 

On the level 4 mission, Recon 3/3, there was no visible toxic cloud. The random debris and actual damage were still there, just no green clouds/tornadoes. I have only got this mission once since the patch, so no idea yet if it's a one off or a consistent problem. It's never happened to me before this patch, though.

none770
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:28:00 - [825]
 

so ccp can we expect an answer anytime today i assume you guys are working to fix the issues but you know as a company it would be nice if you would reply to your customers you set up this forum to get feedback and after what three or four responces you have stopped typing in here.. so can we ay least get a gm in here saying yeah we are working on this, this and this so bare with us we will have a patch up as quick as i can and we will make itright with those players affected... cuz as i can tell thi seems to be a big issues which is ruining the game for what appears to be alot of your players base sense i havent seen total account logged on rise above 20k for a while now? i get you guys are working on it but you tell us you want to improve your customer care and petition system this is a very good way to give it a start... have a gm monitor this channel and replay every now and again maybe you can keep some of the people who are quitting... which i dont blame em for?




Urgg Boolean
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:33:00 - [826]
 

Originally by: tatsudoshi I
Originally by: Zleon Leigh
Nice to see that CCP sheep are on the ball.. you always blindly accept poor performance for products you buy?


No I do certainly not but whining about how this or that company does patching SO much better just makes me sick. [b]People forget just how unique eve is and how little room for error there is.[\b] When going from really, really old code, like the ui, several steps forward to the new code things get lost or forgotten. I believe ccp devs work their ass of to get this working so if something slips give them a freaking break! Report the problem but grow up and stop your tantrums. I am so sick of people acting like poor little babies that can't get their candy bars.


Eve is unique :: so this means they should not get patching right? I see.

Little room for error :: I agree. It's too bad that CCP does not seem to plan for the tight margins of error.

Give them a break :: many of us do as this is only a game. Problem is, we pay for the service of playing the game. If I am a paying customer, I really don't care what their problems are, I only know I am not getting what I paid for.

Tats :: I see very few people having tantrums except you. This situation is yet another example of abysmal professional performance by CCP. There are professionally developed standards for posting patches that include testing. None of these bugs showed up on the test servers AFAIK, and these bugs are too big to have gone previously unnoticed. We can only conclude that CCP ignores industry standards and posts untested code with the hope that everything will be okay.

Tats :: your staus as a fanboi is affecting your capacity for objectivity ad critical thinking.

CCP :: fix the ****ing problems.


BalRog 1
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:36:00 - [827]
 

Edited by: BalRog 1 on 02/06/2011 12:41:21
Originally by: Master Akira
Don't know if these have already been reported, I didn't see them

- Sometimes, when gate jumping to a system, AFTER the next system loaded and while the message bar reads "checking navigation systems", I get a “Display driver stopped responding and has recovered” windows 7 error message. Happens on most of the system jumps.

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Hey . have same problem since EVE update few days ago (5xx mb one) and it happens specially when jumping as u said.
cant solve it my self.. tried google the problem but no solutions

any1 found a reason or way to solve it??

Mehashi 'Kho
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:38:00 - [828]
 

Edited by: Mehashi ''Kho on 02/06/2011 12:42:00
Possible Wallet bug?

I open the wallet (mine is left on the transactions tab), if I click orders straight after opening it there is no problem. However if as normal I minimise the wallet while playing (with the transactions tab selected) when I maximise it again to check my latest sale, if I then click on the orders tab the interface breaks.

The top half (sell orders) are nowhere to be seen, and the bottom half now appears to start a few lines above the top of the wallet window, with the orders all unclickable.

If I then close the wallet and open it again the interface finds it's boundaries again and I can use the orders tab, but only until I minimise the window, then the bug repeats.

Incorrect Overview colours?

I have had some odd overview behaviour too. As well as the normal "cans sometimes appearing yellow" that I had before the patch (which was corrected by switching overview tabs and back again) I have had a couple of people appear red to me for no discernable reason. This includes one of my corp mates who appeared red to me, and even after faffing with the overview and docking/undocking he stayed red. He re-logged and he was back to green. Only a small bug, but I sense a visit from concord if I try to shoot a "red" who isn't really red but just a glitch.

I am using the PC Eve client, dual-screen, dual-boxing.

*edited to change "buy" to "sell" in my wallet bug. Silly mistake.

Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:42:00 - [829]
 

Probably reported in this thread many times already, but you can no longer see the names of your bookmarks in the Solar System map. This means you don't know the name of the bookmark you may be warping to.

The work around is to align the BM with a planet or something, and then mouseover to see it in the list of names. But please fix this. WH ops are being made more difficult without this ability.

Cheers

Mehashi 'Kho
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:50:00 - [830]
 

Originally by: Nicram Starfall
I encounter not sorted in alphabetic order pilots in station. The tab "guest" show my character on top of list, and then all people randomly.
Im running 2 clients in the same station and didnt check it in other place than Ned station


I have also noticed this very consistently accross several stations, not only are they out of order but some people seem to be missing, for me it is fixed by simply clicking on any name in the guest list, then it all reorders back to alphabetic and all names are there.

Bomber Bob
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:57:00 - [831]
 

Still no fix to the planetary issue, didn't expect it anyway.. Rolling Eyes

You are supposed to service your boss'es, (Us, the supscribers), so get going instead of looking at your vulcanos.. ExclamationEvil or Very Mad

Sydron Knight
Minmatar
Chivalric Knights of Justice
Reverberation Project
Posted - 2011.06.02 12:59:00 - [832]
 

This may have been addressed earlier, But I am unable to access the Mailing List Managements that I have created. When I click to Open mailing list management no window opens, so I can't change the settings.

Spiro Tass
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:04:00 - [833]
 

makes me wonder what it's going to be like on the 21st.....................

Renturu
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:07:00 - [834]
 

I've posted in another topic as well as submitted a petition... But does anyone now have issues with CPU grid output on ships in game... Specifically, for me, My Sleipnir (just before the patch for several months) was able to use everything. Now, I don't have enough CPU for an MWD.

Napfelz
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:13:00 - [835]
 

Warp tunnel effects not always shown mostly not shown also the effect's strength fluctuates one time it's stronger another time its lower ugh

TLWE
Polish Lords' Confederacy
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:18:00 - [836]
 

Originally by: CCP Punkturis
We are working to resolve the PI issue as fast as we can!


Hi! I read here that there are two separate issues and they already been addressed internally like yesterday. Do I dare to ask what is the nature of the hold up? ugh

Also I would like to inquire about official line of CCP about making user friendly UI. I know that fighting legacy code is hazardous endeavor and we all wish good luck with it for future of this game, which we are addicts to. Still I would consider you to imagine if this is normal for healthy young and middle age men and women, the players of Eve, to use eye sight impaired peoples' assistance programs and tools to play Eve Online? You sure, your company is wealthy enough, when, not if but when, in USA you will start getting legal notices from courts about paying out damages for making people blind?

Lady PimpStar
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:39:00 - [837]
 

Edited by: Lady PimpStar on 02/06/2011 13:40:21
Another vote for roll back, The current build is unplayble, When I pull up DScan this is what happens to my client.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
http://cid-dcd75572ece71229.office.live.com/self.aspx/Pictures/unplayable.JPG

Gan Millicent
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:52:00 - [838]
 

Originally by: Gan Millicent
Hello,
I'm another player that has client install issues. Both the patch and the full client download failed for me, both citing corrupt file issues. I'm on Windows 7 64-bit. I'm tempted to fire up my old Macbook Pro so I can start playing again...


My problem is solved! It looks like another shot at the repair.exe fixed the issue. It appears to have downloaded a fresh copy of itself? I can't even guess at what sequence of attempts might have fixed everything, but running repair.exe today seemed to do the trick.

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.06.02 13:57:00 - [839]
 

Originally by: Celia Therone
Originally by: Karia Sur
Can we have an ETA on the market bug fix please? Currently the game is unplayable and if its a case of 'we are working on it with no idea of when it wil be fixed' then I see no reason to continue subscribing to something that i can get no use out of.


I bug reported this on 31st May and it has been attached to a defect. I included log server, picture and DxDiag. Their answering mail said that they were not aware of the problem and were creating a new defect for it.


Thanks.

Ive put up with bug-ridden patches for 2 years and with the upcoming Incarna release, I genuinely fear that unless CCP get a grip on the situation, the 21st could be the death knell for this game. Thats not me complaining because i cant currently play the game i like so much. Its a genuine feeling that I get because the current patch has produced so many different bugs that CCP currently seem unable or capable or willing (call it what you want), to address.



Jhonny Pricegrabber
Posted - 2011.06.02 14:07:00 - [840]
 

0.5 GB of unchecked files with new code in one patch = disaster.
I would rather have small patches every day after DT which would change UI step by step, then situation we are dealing 3 days now.

I hope this is the last time CCP did something like that to us, and they will draw the conclusions of this failure.


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