Posted - 2011.06.02 11:10:00 - [812]

 

Originally by: Mr Gharzul

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I am getting really sick and tired of your asswiper / asslicking behavior on the forums.

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You are very welcome.

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CCP has a huge responsibility on this patch and the failure of it.

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The failure is just as much the players who do not follow guidelines. Players how do not clean out the cache, running multiple clients on top of each other without junctions. The client does not support multiple instances, remember?

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At least give the players the room for sharing their frustrations and dissatisfaction. We don't hate EVE or CCP.

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As I said in an earlier post, people need to grow up, implied grow a brain. Coming to the "issues" thread and ranting about this and that not working doesn't help anyone but the kid ranting and I am sick and tired of it so that is why I using this tone towards them. If you feel those posts somehow implies you then maybe there is something to it?

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There are simply too many major and very critical bugs, that is affecting the gameplay

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For the most part all I have seen are warp tunnels on multiple client, PI, some shortcuts, flying backwards and salvaging. Some of that are cache, some running multi client wrong, the rest are bugs yes, but critical? Not really.

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The frustrations from the capsuleers are mainly how this could get through their QA department

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this is a valid reaction from us

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The reaction that this is really annoying is valid and I agree. My point has always been on the way the reactions are shown. Some people act like little babies, as I said and that is even more annoying to me.

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You are completely lacking knowledge and understanding of proper (CR) 'Customer relations' and trust between customers and vendors

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Well that is your opinion but it is subjective what one thinks is proper CR, within a margin.

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Your comments seems to be nature of either being 'blinded by emotional attachments to the game' or pure childishness

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This is very ambiguous so I can't really reply on it.

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Either way you lack the sense of professionalism

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I am glad then we do not work together.

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I am sorry if you are getting offended

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I am not, I have always liked a good sound argumentation.

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...but you are simply offending almost everyone in here

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You can't talk for everyone else, so I will assume you mean yourself.

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Please spare us from your comments about the comments

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Sorry but I have the freedom of speech and I am not ranting or flaming but giving people feedback in the same tone I feel they are voicing theirs.

Thank you for your time.

Posted - 2011.06.02 11:12:00 - [814]

 

• When running two clients on some machines, the client in the background crashes during jumping through the gate on the active client.

It also happens if your'e only running one client and the client is minimized while you jump through a gate.
The combination minimized client, jumping trough a gate and me doing something in chrome at the same time has resulted in two crashes for me so far.

Posted - 2011.06.02 11:21:00 - [816]

 

Originally by: tatsudoshi I

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Originally by: Mr Gharzul

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I am getting really sick and tired of your asswiper / asslicking behavior on the forums.

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You are very welcome.

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CCP has a huge responsibility on this patch and the failure of it.

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The failure is just as much the players who do not follow guidelines. Players how do not clean out the cache, running multiple clients on top of each other without junctions. The client does not support multiple instances, remember?

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At least give the players the room for sharing their frustrations and dissatisfaction. We don't hate EVE or CCP.

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As I said in an earlier post, people need to grow up, implied grow a brain. Coming to the "issues" thread and ranting about this and that not working doesn't help anyone but the kid ranting and I am sick and tired of it so that is why I using this tone towards them. If you feel those posts somehow implies you then maybe there is something to it?

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There are simply too many major and very critical bugs, that is affecting the gameplay

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For the most part all I have seen are warp tunnels on multiple client, PI, some shortcuts, flying backwards and salvaging. Some of that are cache, some running multi client wrong, the rest are bugs yes, but critical? Not really.

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The frustrations from the capsuleers are mainly how this could get through their QA department

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True

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this is a valid reaction from us

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The reaction that this is really annoying is valid and I agree. My point has always been on the way the reactions are shown. Some people act like little babies, as I said and that is even more annoying to me.

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You are completely lacking knowledge and understanding of proper (CR) 'Customer relations' and trust between customers and vendors

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Well that is your opinion but it is subjective what one thinks is proper CR, within a margin.

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Your comments seems to be nature of either being 'blinded by emotional attachments to the game' or pure childishness

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This is very ambiguous so I can't really reply on it.

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Either way you lack the sense of professionalism

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I am glad then we do not work together.

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I am sorry if you are getting offended

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I am not, I have always liked a good sound argumentation.

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...but you are simply offending almost everyone in here

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You can't talk for everyone else, so I will assume you mean yourself.

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Please spare us from your comments about the comments

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Sorry but I have the freedom of speech and I am not ranting or flaming but giving people feedback in the same tone I feel they are voicing theirs.

Thank you for your time.

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LOL

You completely encircle the concept of pure stupidity. I have 10 years of software development experience. There are STILL too many critical bugs that have slipped through their QA.

I did not feel your comments were pointed at me...but your comments towards others made me sick.
I am not not going to babble more of this, and I will keep the thread for its purpose...you should find another thread you can make use of you 'freedom-of-speech' right and keep the thread for issues and dissatisfaction.

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I have experienced client crashes as well during jumps through gates. Somehow clearing the cache didn't fix the problem.
I am running EVE on vista.

Posted - 2011.06.02 11:28:00 - [818]

 

Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:40:46
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:36:59
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:32:20
Edited by: Jhonny Pricegrabber on 02/06/2011 11:29:17
tatsudoshi I, man, please read what ppl are typing here.
You are acting, like there is no problem with the game.
Belive me, it is.
You blame players that it is their fault, that game isn't working for them, as it should?!
That they don't clear game's cache, that they are not using Eve Clients as they should?
Are you mad?
I've played this game (and other MMO games before it) for 1.5 year, every day, on multi clients on my Vista 7, using ALT+TAB method, and I've never had any problems with 2-3 accounts running. There was 0 crashes, ZERO, do you get it? NADA, NEVER, ok?
And now, every player who jumps thru gates gets crashes!
Do you capish finally, that is not a PC/operational system or player mistakes, but last PATCH was totally screwed up.

And this is just one issue (crashes - MAJOR ISSUE), but PI, SCANNING, Ship flying backwords - what are they in this game? SMALL BUGS?!

So tatsudoshi I, don't type your bull**** again, and re-think twice your arguments.
Maybe you are minimalist, maybe you have plastic china watch, and you are surrended by other cheap and breakable things in your life, but normal human always evolves towards perfection.

They fix nothing after today's DT - just great!

Posted - 2011.06.02 11:59:00 - [820]

 

CCP please rollback to 1.5.
The game's current state is untenable. We are loosing money both in-game and as game subscribers. Incarna can wait as the 1.6 patch is more likely coupled to the incarna release.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:09:00 - [822]

 

Planetary Interaction is still broken after downtime.
This will disrupt the markets severely.

This major patch was introduced without adequate warning and clearly has impacts beyond what was described.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:25:00 - [824]

 

On the level 4 mission, Recon 3/3, there was no visible toxic cloud. The random debris and actual damage were still there, just no green clouds/tornadoes. I have only got this mission once since the patch, so no idea yet if it's a one off or a consistent problem. It's never happened to me before this patch, though.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:33:00 - [826]

 

Originally by: tatsudoshi I

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Originally by: Zleon Leigh

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Nice to see that CCP sheep are on the ball.. you always blindly accept poor performance for products you buy?

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No I do certainly not but whining about how this or that company does patching SO much better just makes me sick. [b]People forget just how unique eve is and how little room for error there is.[\b] When going from really, really old code, like the ui, several steps forward to the new code things get lost or forgotten. I believe ccp devs work their ass of to get this working so if something slips give them a freaking break! Report the problem but grow up and stop your tantrums. I am so sick of people acting like poor little babies that can't get their candy bars.

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Eve is unique :: so this means they should not get patching right? I see.

Little room for error :: I agree. It's too bad that CCP does not seem to plan for the tight margins of error.

Give them a break :: many of us do as this is only a game. Problem is, we pay for the service of playing the game. If I am a paying customer, I really don't care what their problems are, I only know I am not getting what I paid for.

Tats :: I see very few people having tantrums except you. This situation is yet another example of abysmal professional performance by CCP. There are professionally developed standards for posting patches that include testing. None of these bugs showed up on the test servers AFAIK, and these bugs are too big to have gone previously unnoticed. We can only conclude that CCP ignores industry standards and posts untested code with the hope that everything will be okay.

Tats :: your staus as a fanboi is affecting your capacity for objectivity ad critical thinking.

CCP :: fix the ****ing problems.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:38:00 - [828]

 

Edited by: Mehashi ''Kho on 02/06/2011 12:42:00
Possible Wallet bug?

I open the wallet (mine is left on the transactions tab), if I click orders straight after opening it there is no problem. However if as normal I minimise the wallet while playing (with the transactions tab selected) when I maximise it again to check my latest sale, if I then click on the orders tab the interface breaks.

The top half (sell orders) are nowhere to be seen, and the bottom half now appears to start a few lines above the top of the wallet window, with the orders all unclickable.

If I then close the wallet and open it again the interface finds it's boundaries again and I can use the orders tab, but only until I minimise the window, then the bug repeats.

Incorrect Overview colours?

I have had some odd overview behaviour too. As well as the normal "cans sometimes appearing yellow" that I had before the patch (which was corrected by switching overview tabs and back again) I have had a couple of people appear red to me for no discernable reason. This includes one of my corp mates who appeared red to me, and even after faffing with the overview and docking/undocking he stayed red. He re-logged and he was back to green. Only a small bug, but I sense a visit from concord if I try to shoot a "red" who isn't really red but just a glitch.

I am using the PC Eve client, dual-screen, dual-boxing.

*edited to change "buy" to "sell" in my wallet bug. Silly mistake.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:50:00 - [830]

 

Originally by: Nicram Starfall

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I encounter not sorted in alphabetic order pilots in station. The tab "guest" show my character on top of list, and then all people randomly.
Im running 2 clients in the same station and didnt check it in other place than Ned station

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I have also noticed this very consistently accross several stations, not only are they out of order but some people seem to be missing, for me it is fixed by simply clicking on any name in the guest list, then it all reorders back to alphabetic and all names are there.

Posted - 2011.06.02 12:59:00 - [832]

 

This may have been addressed earlier, But I am unable to access the Mailing List Managements that I have created. When I click to Open mailing list management no window opens, so I can't change the settings.

Posted - 2011.06.02 13:07:00 - [834]

 

I've posted in another topic as well as submitted a petition... But does anyone now have issues with CPU grid output on ships in game... Specifically, for me, My Sleipnir (just before the patch for several months) was able to use everything. Now, I don't have enough CPU for an MWD.

Posted - 2011.06.02 13:18:00 - [836]

 

Originally by: CCP Punkturis

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We are working to resolve the PI issue as fast as we can!

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Hi! I read here that there are two separate issues and they already been addressed internally like yesterday. Do I dare to ask what is the nature of the hold up?

Also I would like to inquire about official line of CCP about making user friendly UI. I know that fighting legacy code is hazardous endeavor and we all wish good luck with it for future of this game, which we are addicts to. Still I would consider you to imagine if this is normal for healthy young and middle age men and women, the players of Eve, to use eye sight impaired peoples' assistance programs and tools to play Eve Online? You sure, your company is wealthy enough, when, not if but when, in USA you will start getting legal notices from courts about paying out damages for making people blind?

Posted - 2011.06.02 13:52:00 - [838]

 

Originally by: Gan Millicent

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Hello,
I'm another player that has client install issues. Both the patch and the full client download failed for me, both citing corrupt file issues. I'm on Windows 7 64-bit. I'm tempted to fire up my old Macbook Pro so I can start playing again...

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My problem is solved! It looks like another shot at the repair.exe fixed the issue. It appears to have downloaded a fresh copy of itself? I can't even guess at what sequence of attempts might have fixed everything, but running repair.exe today seemed to do the trick.

Posted - 2011.06.02 14:07:00 - [840]

 

0.5 GB of unchecked files with new code in one patch = disaster.
I would rather have small patches every day after DT which would change UI step by step, then situation we are dealing 3 days now.

I hope this is the last time CCP did something like that to us, and they will draw the conclusions of this failure.