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fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.05.31 23:21:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Common Origin

Again, too much eft warrioring and not enough eve. Go get caught and see what happens.YARRRR!!


what happens

if im in pve ship. tackle it, annouce in fleet that i have it tackled. multiple people warp in. smashed up proteus

pvp. tackle and kite it.

Originally by: Korg Leaf

Cloaky Proteus is for shooting whatever you think you can pop, I think you need some actual eve experience and to leave your eft alone.




what you can pop are stupid pve players.

im sorry the numbers prove you are flying a completely outclassed and inferior ship.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.05.31 23:31:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
cloaky t3s are for killing pve players


Its for picking your fights. I'd take mine up against most solo BCs if I could get the scram off on them.

-Liang

Forum Troll Trolling
Forum Trolling Corp
Posted - 2011.06.01 00:05:00 - [123]
 

im selling my legion and getting a tengu. the legion is bad for PVE and decent for C1 and C2 PVE.
to kill the legion all you need is one of three things, neut, jam, or tracking disruption. and for PVE legion, neut and tracking disuption happens ALOT, especially with the NPC tracking disuption boost

Voith
Posted - 2011.06.01 00:06:00 - [124]
 

Replace the Tengu missile system bonuses with the Legion HAM subsystem.


Both are balanced, right?

Muad 'dib
Caldari
The Imperial Fedaykin
Posted - 2011.06.01 00:30:00 - [125]
 

its the only caldari missile ship thats any good/fun to fly, dont nerf it. it needs huge bonuses because missiles are crappy.

RougeOperator
Posted - 2011.06.01 01:43:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Muad 'dib
its the only caldari missile ship thats any good/fun to fly, dont nerf it. it needs huge bonuses because missiles are crappy.


Id rather fight your tengu then your mach any day.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.06.01 08:46:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: Muad 'dib
its the only caldari missile ship thats any good/fun to fly, dont nerf it. it needs huge bonuses because missiles are crappy.


counterpoint. drake

most popular ship.

Songbird
Gallente
T.I.E. Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.01 11:04:00 - [128]
 

Edited by: Songbird on 01/06/2011 11:16:23
BTW - has anyone ever seen a blaster tengu?

Edit: Buff hybrids.

Vizvig
Posted - 2011.06.01 11:24:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: Vizvig on 01/06/2011 11:26:18
THAT is blaster tengu, and it is dead blaster tengu.

edit: he have no kills on it

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.06.01 15:03:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Vizvig
Edited by: Vizvig on 01/06/2011 11:26:18
THAT is blaster tengu, and it is dead blaster tengu.

edit: he have no kills on it


i cant believe you actually found one.

yeah tengu with hybrids makes the legion even look awesome.

Korg Leaf
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.06.01 18:44:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille

Originally by: Korg Leaf

Cloaky Proteus is for shooting whatever you think you can pop, I think you need some actual eve experience and to leave your eft alone.




what you can pop are stupid pve players.

im sorry the numbers prove you are flying a completely outclassed and inferior ship.


What you kill is whatever you feel you can kill, say solo bc, cruisers and buffer fit bs.
The cloaky proteus waits until it see's something it can see say a solo hurricane, it decloaks next to it, tackles and melts it, then loots, cloaks and warps to wherever.

The Tengu is great in gangs where there are loads of them, the same as with Drakes. In the hands of a good pilot they are great in the 100mn AB fit but they arent overpowered as heavily as you say.

Cathy Drall
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.06.01 19:53:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Muad 'dib
its the only caldari missile ship thats any good/fun to fly, dont nerf it. it needs huge bonuses because missiles are crappy.

Only heavies are ok .. and don't nerf my main source of imcome!

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.06.02 08:50:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Korg Leaf


What you kill is whatever you feel you can kill, say solo bc, cruisers and buffer fit bs.
The cloaky proteus waits until it see's something it can see say a solo hurricane, it decloaks next to it, tackles and melts it, then loots, cloaks and warps to wherever.



pve players are the main target, dont try to say its primary goal is to attack pvp fit players

while it could kill a solo bc, it cant do it quickly before help arrives, it cant disengage if the solo bc turns out to be a bait bc and in some cases, a bc could actually give it a run for its money.

Korg Leaf
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:11:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
Originally by: Korg Leaf


What you kill is whatever you feel you can kill, say solo bc, cruisers and buffer fit bs.
The cloaky proteus waits until it see's something it can see say a solo hurricane, it decloaks next to it, tackles and melts it, then loots, cloaks and warps to wherever.



pve players are the main target, dont try to say its primary goal is to attack pvp fit players

while it could kill a solo bc, it cant do it quickly before help arrives, it cant disengage if the solo bc turns out to be a bait bc and in some cases, a bc could actually give it a run for its money.


Ill admit they cant disengage easily but no t1 BC can give it a run for its money, it may have problems with a triple rep myrm, but mine has 500+ DPS, long range scram and web(18km) and 126k ehp.

Whether PvE targets are the main targets or not, it can easily take BC and below.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:33:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Korg Leaf


Ill admit they cant disengage easily but no t1 BC can give it a run for its money, it may have problems with a triple rep myrm, but mine has 500+ DPS, long range scram and web(18km) and 126k ehp.


A slaved cane can do around 670 dps and has 102K ehp. ham drake 600 at 90k ehp

pretty close.

Korg Leaf
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:38:00 - [136]
 

If we are adding slaves into it, my proteus gets nearly 200k ehp and with the right damage implants nearly 600dps, point is the Proteus does some thing better than the tengu such as Cloaky Damage.

The Tengu isnt great solo but is great in gangs.

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Posted - 2011.06.02 10:57:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: new fgft Athonille

taking this point a bit farther, you could say the tengu has the most damage of all the t3s, due to it can do the most damage at the longest ranges compared to the other t3s

it needs a launcher reduction to bring it in line with the other ships.
What they should do is restore the old bonuses. Way back when there were only 3 subsystems of each type, the accelerate launcher bay just had the damage bonus and the rifling launcher pattern had the range bonus. bring that back, and we have to choose between DPS and range like you usually have to do, potentially improving the viability of the other subsystems, and at the same time would let an ECM Tengu have some bite at range.

Angsty Teenager
Posted - 2011.06.02 17:37:00 - [138]
 

Lol you guys kidding me?

Blaster tengu is awesome, nobody flies it because it's not ezmode like LOLHEAVYMISSILESPAMALLDAY.


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