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NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:48:00 - [1]
 

SOoooo

my computer got hit by lightning. well it wasn't a direct hit, but it was a nasty surge that fried my power supply.

the good news is, now I have an excuse to go buy my high end dream computer.

The bad news is, the 'replacement' computer that I have until i get my new one won't load eve.

So, is it possible to update my training que outside of the eve client? I think this lil 'break' would be a good time to knock out advanced weapons upgrades lvl 5

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:49:00 - [2]
 

no Sad

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:52:00 - [3]
 

no,
sorry,
you'll have to go and find a friendly neighbourhood pc user...

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:53:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
no,
sorry,
you'll have to go and find a friendly neighbourhood pc user...
this, unfortunately for you.

Shiera Kuni
Repurposed Armaments
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:54:00 - [5]
 

Unfortunately no, but I can set your training up for you Very Happy

I'm kidding, of course, no one is that trusting.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.05.25 17:30:00 - [6]
 

go to your corp/alliance vocal channel / forums, ask for some trusted friend to log on your account for you.
only solution for now.
pretty sure they said not long ago they will add it to evegate someday, but well it's soon(c) so...

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.05.25 18:48:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Raid'En
go to your corp/alliance vocal channel / forums, ask for some trusted friend to log on your account for you.
only solution for now.
pretty sure they said not long ago they will add it to evegate someday, but well it's soon(c) so...


Do not do that, account sharing is not allowed can get your account banned.

I suggest a friend or cyber cafe as your best options. Also recommend a long skill just in case shipping takes forever.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.05.25 18:55:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Blane Xero on 25/05/2011 18:55:05
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Do not do that, account sharing is not allowed can get your account banned.

I suggest a friend
or cyber cafe as your best options. Also recommend a long skill just in case shipping takes forever.
You might want to re-word that a bit. Such as, a Friend's house/internet

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.05.25 18:56:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

account sharing is not allowed
[...]
I suggest a friend

can someone explain me how it's not the same thing ? >_<




Mylor Torlone
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:05:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Raid'En
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

account sharing is not allowed
[...]
I suggest a friend

can someone explain me how it's not the same thing ? >_<






Nope, because it isn't. From CCPs point of view, if they looked, they would see at as account sharing if their friend happened to also play EVE.

MissyDark
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:12:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

I suggest a friend or cyber cafe as your best options. Also recommend a long skill just in case shipping takes forever.


STAY AWAY from cyber cafe for any activity where you have to log in somewhere. Computers in cyber cafes are used by tons of people and they quite frequently install keyloggers and other stuff on those machines to get people's email, facebook and bank account passwords.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:16:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Raid'En
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

account sharing is not allowed
[...]
I suggest a friend

can someone explain me how it's not the same thing ? >_<



Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?

Having your friend log into your account is not OK.

Calfis
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:19:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Raid'En
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

account sharing is not allowed
[...]
I suggest a friend

can someone explain me how it's not the same thing ? >_<



Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?

Having your friend log into your account is not OK.


That's a pretty gray line, how would you guys know the difference? Rolling Eyes

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.05.25 19:39:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Originally by: Raid'En
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist

account sharing is not allowed
[...]
I suggest a friend

can someone explain me how it's not the same thing ? >_<



Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?

Having your friend log into your account is not OK.



As I said Zymmy, reword it to state what you meant better. Right now it seems you're recommending having a friend log in for you.

Raid'En
Posted - 2011.05.25 20:11:00 - [15]
 

maybe he want to say that officially it's the owner of account who have to log on his account, and so guy have to go to friend and log by himself.
while they don't care from who you do that.
of course if it's that it make no sense on concrete term as they have no way to check who is behind the keyboard but well

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.05.25 20:24:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: NinjaSpud on 25/05/2011 20:24:22

Thanks, CCP Zymurgist, that's good info to know.

The crisis might be averted....I just got my lil' bro to agree to 'trade' his PC for my xbox 360 until I get a new one LOL.

I can sacrifice a month of mortal kombat and halo for Eve I think.

all in all, I blame CCP for making such an addicting game.

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.26 01:18:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 26/05/2011 01:24:48
Can i say that is a stupid rule?

That is a stupid rule.


If CCP can tell that the person logging at my friend's IP isn't me, but can't ban the bloody bots i... i.... well i'd be sad.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:26:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 26/05/2011 02:31:36
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?
Having your friend log into your account is not OK.

And the distinction would be more than purely academical HOW exactly ?

The only way for you guys to be relatively certain of the distinction MIGHT be that a series of logins in quick succession took place from IPs geolocation claims are too far apart to normally make it possible for a human to travel between them.
But even then, you have geolocation failures and also this newfangled thing called remote desktop access, so you're not completely certain.

So really, other than somebody being stupid enough to openly admit to doing it, he'd have a perfectly acceptable way of claiming he's withing the guidelines you just presented.
Then again, you guys don't really need a reason for any sort of measures, the EULA states you can punish people whenever and however you see fit, and at most you're liable for what, one month's sub ?
Why even bother finding some official-sounding reason ?


Let's stop pretending THAT particular rule is anything more than a "CCP covering its ass in case something fishy happens" addition to help make account/asset disputes easily solvable from CCP's standpoint, while providing a semblance of being somewhat official (again, why bother).
Translated in common English, that rule should actually say "if you were stupid enough to give somebody you didn't fully trust your login info, shut up and go away, since you're not getting any of your stuff back".

While you're at it, you might as well be adding "babysitting" functionality to the game (i.e. assign a "babysitter" character for a characters of yours, so the owner of the "babysitting" character can play your character as if it were theirs, selectable from the REGULAR login screen on THEIR account, the one the "babysitting" character belongs to).

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 26/05/2011 02:31:36
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?
Having your friend log into your account is not OK.

And the distinction would be more than purely academical HOW exactly ?

The only way for you guys to be relatively certain of the distinction MIGHT be that a series of logins in quick succession took place from IPs geolocation claims are too far apart to normally make it possible for a human to travel between them.
But even then, you have geolocation failures and also this newfangled thing called remote desktop access, so you're not completely certain.

So really, other than somebody being stupid enough to openly admit to doing it, he'd have a perfectly acceptable way of claiming he's withing the guidelines you just presented.
Then again, you guys don't really need a reason for any sort of measures, the EULA states you can punish people whenever and however you see fit, and at most you're liable for what, one month's sub ?
Why even bother finding some official-sounding reason ?


Let's stop pretending THAT particular rule is anything more than a "CCP covering its ass in case something fishy happens" addition to help make account/asset disputes easily solvable from CCP's standpoint, while providing a semblance of being somewhat official (again, why bother).
Translated in common English, that rule should actually say "if you were stupid enough to give somebody you didn't fully trust your login info, shut up and go away, since you're not getting any of your stuff back".

While you're at it, you might as well be adding "babysitting" functionality to the game (i.e. assign a "babysitter" character for a characters of yours, so the owner of the "babysitting" character can play your character as if it were theirs, selectable from the REGULAR login screen on THEIR account, the one the "babysitting" character belongs to).



SO?

MeBiatch
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:34:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 26/05/2011 02:31:36
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?
Having your friend log into your account is not OK.

And the distinction would be more than purely academical HOW exactly ?

The only way for you guys to be relatively certain of the distinction MIGHT be that a series of logins in quick succession took place from IPs geolocation claims are too far apart to normally make it possible for a human to travel between them.
But even then, you have geolocation failures and also this newfangled thing called remote desktop access, so you're not completely certain.

So really, other than somebody being stupid enough to openly admit to doing it, he'd have a perfectly acceptable way of claiming he's withing the guidelines you just presented.
Then again, you guys don't really need a reason for any sort of measures, the EULA states you can punish people whenever and however you see fit, and at most you're liable for what, one month's sub ?
Why even bother finding some official-sounding reason ?


Let's stop pretending THAT particular rule is anything more than a "CCP covering its ass in case something fishy happens" addition to help make account/asset disputes easily solvable from CCP's standpoint, while providing a semblance of being somewhat official (again, why bother).
Translated in common English, that rule should actually say "if you were stupid enough to give somebody you didn't fully trust your login info, shut up and go away, since you're not getting any of your stuff back".

While you're at it, you might as well be adding "babysitting" functionality to the game (i.e. assign a "babysitter" character for a characters of yours, so the owner of the "babysitting" character can play your character as if it were theirs, selectable from the REGULAR login screen on THEIR account, the one the "babysitting" character belongs to).



no true CCP is UBER! they can turn on your webcam to see if its really you loggin in... its true... just ask Wink

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:40:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
SO?

So a simple rephrasing of all those sets of rules to
"anything happening from your character is your responsibility regardless of who did it and how he managed to login to your account"
would be more accurate and quite sufficient.
Razz

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:45:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: MeBiatch
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 26/05/2011 02:31:36
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Going to a friends house and logging into your account is just fine. Ever have a LAN party?
Having your friend log into your account is not OK.

And the distinction would be more than purely academical HOW exactly ?

The only way for you guys to be relatively certain of the distinction MIGHT be that a series of logins in quick succession took place from IPs geolocation claims are too far apart to normally make it possible for a human to travel between them.
But even then, you have geolocation failures and also this newfangled thing called remote desktop access, so you're not completely certain.

So really, other than somebody being stupid enough to openly admit to doing it, he'd have a perfectly acceptable way of claiming he's withing the guidelines you just presented.
Then again, you guys don't really need a reason for any sort of measures, the EULA states you can punish people whenever and however you see fit, and at most you're liable for what, one month's sub ?
Why even bother finding some official-sounding reason ?


Let's stop pretending THAT particular rule is anything more than a "CCP covering its ass in case something fishy happens" addition to help make account/asset disputes easily solvable from CCP's standpoint, while providing a semblance of being somewhat official (again, why bother).
Translated in common English, that rule should actually say "if you were stupid enough to give somebody you didn't fully trust your login info, shut up and go away, since you're not getting any of your stuff back".

While you're at it, you might as well be adding "babysitting" functionality to the game (i.e. assign a "babysitter" character for a characters of yours, so the owner of the "babysitting" character can play your character as if it were theirs, selectable from the REGULAR login screen on THEIR account, the one the "babysitting" character belongs to).



no true CCP is UBER! they can turn on your webcam to see if its really you loggin in... its true... just ask Wink
I'd be more inclined to ask them how they turned on a Webcam I don't even have.

MeBiatch
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:56:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero

I'd be more inclined to ask them how they turned on a Webcam I didn't know i had.


tinfoil hat is working todayYARRRR!!

Kaiden Exeider
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:22:00 - [24]
 

i would love it if CCP came out with an APP for Android/Iphone marketplaces that would allow you to set your skill/skill queue from anywhere. that would rule.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:37:00 - [25]
 

Why make it an app for smartphones when they're already planning to introduce skill queue management into EVE Gate (Real Soon Now™)?

Drokar Gazer
DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
Posted - 2011.05.26 05:51:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Why make it an app for smartphones when they're already planning to introduce skill queue management into EVE Gate (Real Soon Now™)?


CCP have the slowest devs on this earth... they had some interns working on developing a tool to change skill queue years ago, but then, well the interns left and CCP realized the interns were so much smarter and they couldnt figure out the coding... I believe those interns now work for Geico.

it took CCP 5 years to develop walking in stations... strike that walking in a room that does nothing you cant do now except in a fancy graphical way.... so imagine how long it would take them to implement this... soon(tm) more like never(tm).... to CCP they mean the same thing.

Lidia Prince
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.26 07:06:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Drokar Gazer
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Why make it an app for smartphones when they're already planning to introduce skill queue management into EVE Gate (Real Soon Now™)?


CCP have the slowest devs on this earth... they had some interns working on developing a tool to change skill queue years ago, but then, well the interns left and CCP realized the interns were so much smarter and they couldnt figure out the coding... I believe those interns now work for Geico.

it took CCP 5 years to develop walking in stations... strike that walking in a room that does nothing you cant do now except in a fancy graphical way.... so imagine how long it would take them to implement this... soon(tm) more like never(tm).... to CCP they mean the same thing.

Whoa, whoa. Keep your butthurt inside... or at least in your whine thread, no need to spread your tears around, grandpa. Jeez.

Neamus
Posted - 2011.05.27 16:00:00 - [28]
 

Exactly what is the objection to having a friend log-in to your account and change a skill on your behalf? And how exactly do you enforce this when you're unable to determine who's at the keyboard?

Personally I keep my account details to myself, but if I were in the OP's position and had a trusted RL friend who plays EVE then I'd be tempted. Its not exactly a crime is it, and what's the punishment anyway? A sternly worded warning, or a short ban perhaps? My God its serious business this internet spaceship stuff, isn't it.

Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
Posted - 2011.05.27 16:09:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
SOoooo

my computer got hit by lightning. well it wasn't a direct hit, but it was a nasty surge that fried my power supply.

the good news is, now I have an excuse to go buy my high end dream computer.

The bad news is, the 'replacement' computer that I have until i get my new one won't load eve.

So, is it possible to update my training que outside of the eve client? I think this lil 'break' would be a good time to knock out advanced weapons upgrades lvl 5


Sort of in the same boat myself.

My motherboard (I think) has keeled over or otherwise decided that it doesn't want to talk to any of my external hardware, plus it has some serious start up issues. Unfortunately, I'm not employed enough to buy a new rig so I'm having to settle with a replacement mobo and hoping that's the faulty hardware.

But, my replacement PC (family laptop) runs EVE well enough. Not well enough for PvP or multiple clients though. So I really want to get my rig back up and running because Incarna is looking sweeeeeeeeet. And this lappy can only run it with everything turned down to ugly.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.05.27 16:15:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
I'd be more inclined to ask them how they turned on a Webcam I don't even have.


You mean the one you didn't think you had.


 

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