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Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.05.26 01:23:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Barbens
If you were old enough to remember Vexors, Dominix's etc. with 15 drones, you'd be bitter too...



Barbs
I want my 15 drone domi/vexor backSad

15 T2 warriors have a much better "WTF!" effect than 5 boosted T2 warriorsSad

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.05.26 01:29:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 26/05/2011 01:44:56
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 26/05/2011 01:44:45
Originally by: Nypheas Azurai


Oh just please put a sock in it you giant egomaniacal tool. Anyone can be "bitter vet", it has nothing to do with a certain play style (care/null-bearing) and everything to do with a jaded mentality towards the game & CCP.

/vitter bet


Son, you haven't even been in the game long enough to be called a vet. Come back when you have enough SP to fly a capital ship. I can understand how getting fist ****ed in your iteron can make you bitter, but that doesn't make you a vet.

veteran (ˈvɛtərən, ˈvɛtrən)

n
1. a. a person or thing that has given long service in some capacity

2. a. a soldier who has seen considerable active service

Affirmative Space Action
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:14:00 - [33]
 

Actually it's pretty acurate. It's a company which has the capactiy to destroy whole swaths of their customers computers in simple patches. It's a company who took 6+ years to develope WiS because they listened to a couple arm cutting 'hardcore' noobs on the forums who wanted things likeFW and incursion first.

It is a company which had great success don't get me wrong but which seemd to plateu far below many people's hopes and expectations.

There's a love/hate relationship between the bitter vet and CCP. Like an abused wife, the bitter vet knows CCP is extremely flawed and know what they're capable of but keep coming back

Cambarus
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:55:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Affirmative Space Action
Actually it's pretty acurate. It's a company which has the capactiy to destroy whole swaths of their customers computers in simple patches. It's a company who took 6+ years to develope WiS because they listened to a couple arm cutting 'hardcore' noobs on the forums who wanted things likeFW and incursion first.

I don't know a whole lot of people who actually WANT wis. Incursions and FW were both flops to varying degrees, but WIS will be no different, because at the end of the day it's still CCP we're talking about.

If I were to summarize CCP in a single sentance, it would be this: Fantastic ideas ruined by horrible implementation.

They come up with something cool, then either release it completely useless, or broken, and then refuse to fix it, because by their own words "New features sell better than polished ones."

Merovee
Amarr
Gorthaur Legion
Of Mordor
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:59:00 - [35]
 

Real Vets know better than to complain about something that works most of the time, grumble yes but never bitter. Crying or Very sad anyway there is a lot of stuff to do in life, summer soon, or not for the southern few. Laughing

I agree with OP n00bs rage is normal, its part of the learning experience of doing something new.Wink

Jacque Cruix
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:09:00 - [36]
 

You guys have it easy, back when I was a noob we had to crawl the last 15km to the gate to jump and crawl 15km away from the gate to warp.
Something about a drunk dev who confused JGs with WDFs in the DB or some dumb-assed thing.

Oh yea, and avoid mines while doing it, on Sunday.


theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:31:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Affirmative Space Action
Actually it's pretty acurate. It's a company which has the capactiy to destroy whole swaths of their customers computers in simple patches. It's a company who took 6+ years to develope WiS because they listened to a couple arm cutting 'hardcore' noobs on the forums who wanted things likeFW and incursion first.


What is your major malfunction?

People who wanted more spaceships content are noobs compared to the people who want space barbies?

WiS/Incarna will be abandoned just like sov/FW/incursions/T3/wormholes/etc and CCP will be off working on the new shiny and WoD instead of iterating their already released content.

flummox
Posted - 2011.05.26 03:59:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 26/05/2011 01:44:56
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 26/05/2011 01:44:45
Originally by: Nypheas Azurai


Oh just please put a sock in it you giant egomaniacal tool. Anyone can be "bitter vet", it has nothing to do with a certain play style (care/null-bearing) and everything to do with a jaded mentality towards the game & CCP.

/vitter bet


Son, you haven't even been in the game long enough to be called a vet. Come back when you have enough SP to fly a capital ship. I can understand how getting fist ****ed in your iteron can make you bitter, but that doesn't make you a vet.

veteran (ˈvɛtərən, ˈvɛtrən)

n
1. a. a person or thing that has given long service in some capacity

2. a. a soldier who has seen considerable active service



Miso Hawnee i think i love you. and that is an epic rack you've got there...

Nypheas Azurai
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:10:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee

Son, you haven't even been in the game long enough to be called a vet. Come back when you have enough SP to fly a capital ship. I can understand how getting fist ****ed in your iteron can make you bitter, but that doesn't make you a vet.


Veteran is state of mind kid, not a number under you belt. Unfortunately first you have to have a mind to understand it. Come back when you aren't displaying your general ignorance about gaming in general.

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:17:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Nypheas Azurai

Veteran is state of mind kid, not a number under you belt. Unfortunately first you have to have a mind to understand it. Come back when you aren't displaying your general ignorance about gaming in general.


Actually it isn't a state of mind. I was kind enough to post the definition for you, but you have to have an intellect to understand it. Come back when you aren't displaying your general ignorance about reading and comprehension.

theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:20:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: theRaptor on 26/05/2011 04:22:24
Originally by: Nypheas Azurai

Veteran is state of mind kid, not a number under you belt.


No, it has to directly do with experience over time. In gaming unless you have been around for a significant amount of the games time you aren't a vet.

You can be bitter/jaded/etc but that doesn't make you a vet. Bittervet came about because all EvE vets are bitter about something but keep coming back.

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:26:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 26/05/2011 04:26:48
Originally by: flummox


Miso Hawnee i think i love you. and that is an epic rack you've got there...



I hope you are enjoying this thread as much as I am. Laughing

My goal when the new character creator came out was to push it to its limits. I like to think I achieved maximum volume.

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:31:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
I like to think I achieved maximum volume.


Congratulations!, you've trully shown your,... maturity.

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:34:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
I like to think I achieved maximum volume.


Congratulations!, you've trully shown your,... maturity.



Who logs into a video game to be mature? I can do that 60 hours a week at work. Young at heart my friend. Laughing I also like jokes about midgets, hookers, and alcoholism.

Kieron VonDeux
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:38:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Young at heart my friend.


Ah, sorry, my bad. I had the immature bitter vet with a squeaky voice and the occational lack of vocal pitch control image going.


Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
Posted - 2011.05.26 04:42:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Simetraz
Veteran implies knowledge and hopefully a little wisdom.


Wrong. Veteran just means a lot of experience, not neccssary that you learned anything from it.

Tan Thor
Posted - 2011.05.26 05:43:00 - [47]
 

My 2 cents, They come up with something cool, then either release it completely useless, or broken, and then refuse to fix it, because by their own words "New features sell better than polished ones."
Stolen from other poster

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.05.26 06:45:00 - [48]
 

Having been both, I can say the difference between a bitter noob and a bitter vet is the vet knows it will never change.

Nypheas Azurai
Posted - 2011.05.26 09:08:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: theRaptor

No, it has to directly do with experience over time.

Ergo, as I said, a "state of mind". Has nothing to do with a number, and everything to do with how you experience the game.

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Actually it isn't a state of mind. I was kind enough to post the definition for you.

Still failing it I see? Lucky for people like you dictionaries include pronunciation keys. Unfortunately they don't provide competence keys.

salty Milk
Posted - 2011.05.26 09:40:00 - [50]
 

because bitter vet puts them forcefully into the lieutenant dan mould which has certain psychological win points when they realise they lost their legs for absolutely nothing

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.05.26 09:50:00 - [51]
 

Customers complaining about the faults of a product. QQ

theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.26 09:51:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Nypheas Azurai
Originally by: theRaptor

No, it has to directly do with experience over time.

Ergo, as I said, a "state of mind". Has nothing to do with a number, and everything to do with how you experience the game.


No, as I said it is a number. You need to get experience OVER TIME. You by definition can not be a veteran without the investment of time. You can be experienced without the investment of time but not a veteran.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.05.26 09:55:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Having been both, I can say the difference between a bitter noob and a bitter vet is the vet knows it will never change.



And to prove my point, I just took my first mission after the Mission patch.

A courier mission, 5 part.
Part 1, courier.
Part 2, 3, 4 and 5? Encounters Laughing

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.05.26 10:32:00 - [54]
 

Bitter pet signing in.

/c

Shawnm339
Posted - 2011.05.26 10:56:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Originally by: Simetraz
Just a little curious about the whole Bitter Vet canned response.

Wouldn't a better response be a Bitter NOOB ?

Veteran implies knowledge and hopefully a little wisdom.
As a Vet you would think they would know the deal on how the game works, and the company that makes it.

When someone rage quits or starts ranting and raving on the forums about how something isn't fair blah blah blah they really are acting like a NOOB.
Let alone I think a fair amount of time when this canned response is used you are actually calling a NOOB a Vet which is elevating them unnecessarily.
Granted Bitter Vet is a coined term but in most cases it just doesn't apply.






Most of the 'Bitter Vet' Types are the people who play the full spectrum of the eve-o experience. They are the ones that empire build in nullsec, and put great effort into maintaining large empires and fleets. Eventually this becomes a second job. Along the way CCP may change or break pieces of the empire, or in the worst case... outright cheat with insider info and dev tool item spawns.

They are bitter because they have wandered far enough to see the dark side of CCP, something that guys that spend 6 years in empire care bearing rarely see. They are the kind of people that aren't afraid to take risk or speak their minds. Plenty of care bear types are content to sit on their nuts in safety farming ****. That kind of person doesn't have the spine or initiative to break out of the kiddie pool, so they are content sitting there with their floaties on in 3ft of water. Fanbois will be fanbois, and the aggressive cowboys will be as they are.

Some people expect greatness, others are content with mediocrity. The personality type that goes out and makes empire and kills thousands along the way, they aren't the type to wait for god in a pasture.


was reading what you was typing then my eyes were magnetically drawn to thos breast ShockedShocked the EVE award for perkiest computer generated boobies goes to Miso....EVE award for perv of the year to me

S'Way
Posted - 2011.05.26 11:14:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Having been both, I can say the difference between a bitter noob and a bitter vet is the vet knows it will never change.


This sums it up well.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.05.26 12:03:00 - [57]
 

Peanut gallery needs something to aim at!

N00bs are no fun. Well maybe a little.


Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2011.05.26 12:28:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Edited by: Adrian Idaho on 25/05/2011 19:35:29
Originally by: Miso Hawnee
Most of the 'Bitter Vet' Types are the people who play the full spectrum of the eve-o experience. They are the ones that empire build in nullsec, and put great effort into maintaining large empires and fleets. Eventually this becomes a second job. Along the way CCP may change or break pieces of the empire, or in the worst case... outright cheat with insider info and dev tool item spawns.

They are bitter because they have wandered far enough to see the dark side of CCP, something that guys that spend 6 years in empire care bearing rarely see. They are the kind of people that aren't afraid to take risk or speak their minds. Plenty of care bear types are content to sit on their nuts in safety farming ****. That kind of person doesn't have the spine or initiative to break out of the kiddie pool, so they are content sitting there with their floaties on in 3ft of water. Fanbois will be fanbois, and the aggressive cowboys will be as they are.

Some people expect greatness, others are content with mediocrity. The personality type that goes out and makes empire and kills thousands along the way, they aren't the type to wait for god in a pasture.

LOL, that's just ridiculous! Laughing
See, this is who you think you are (the guy on the left):
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

This is what you really are:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

There's a name for your kind: Internet Tough Guy.

You don't need balls of steel to ***** about CCP.


So. Much. Win.

flummox
Posted - 2011.05.26 16:50:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Nypheas Azurai
Originally by: Miso Hawnee

Son, you haven't even been in the game long enough to be called a vet. Come back when you have enough SP to fly a capital ship. I can understand how getting fist ****ed in your iteron can make you bitter, but that doesn't make you a vet.


Veteran is state of mind kid, not a number under you belt. Unfortunately first you have to have a mind to understand it. Come back when you aren't displaying your general ignorance about gaming in general.


you lost all credibility by using "kid"; a lame internet tactic. thank you, and good day.

flummox
Posted - 2011.05.26 16:53:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Shawnm339

was reading what you was typing then my eyes were magnetically drawn to thos breast ShockedShocked the EVE award for perkiest computer generated boobies goes to Miso....EVE award for perv of the year to me


fail. i pointed it out first.

Originally by: flummox

Miso Hawnee i think i love you. and that is an epic rack you've got there...



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