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John DaiSho
Posted - 2011.05.24 14:17:00 - [181]
 

1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)
5, but i buyed myself a better computer only weeks ago.

2. Rate the overall performance
(1-5 scale)
4, the camera is a bit tricky sometimes

3. General feedback
One thing i really am missing isthe option to further zoom in, i would love not only to look over the shoulder of my charackter but to look trhough his eyes. A first person view would be awesome

Emmy Mnemonic
Amarr
Lone Gunmen
Posted - 2011.05.24 15:21:00 - [182]
 

Quote:
1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc) (1-5 scale)


Framerate=4 (30-45+ fps). No probs on highest settings on my NVidia 460 GTX.
UI=3 : A bit "tricky" with the camera, it somtimes "zooms in" extremely when you rotate camera around toon when close to walls etc. Using context menues sabotages the "immersion" imho!
Lag=5. No lag!
Total=4

Quote:
2. Rate the overall performance

4

Quote:
3. General feedback

The ships are waaaaaay down the drain! You can hardly see them unless you zoom out from your toon.

The way the ships "materialize" does not add to the "immersion effect". The technology behind one ship just disappearing in front of your eyes, and another materializing just as suddenly leaves you in utter awe! Something for Joe Labero (a RL magician who makes RL airplanes disappear etc.) Srsl CCP, the ships should be "floating" into position or elevated up through the "floor" or something if you are looking for immersion effect with walking-in-stations/CQ!

I tried the UI for the character recreator in the "Mirror". After that a strange red blinking volume appeared in the exit to the balcony. It seemed to me to be a lighting mask or similar? Could not recreate the error and have no logs unfortunately.

Other things to improve are the ambient sounds and the music. That ol' EVE-soundtrack is worn out by now ;-)

In all, I'd say you have come somewhat along the road to completion since last pre-release, but you still have a LOT of work ahead of you to get this in a releasable state! Keep up the good work CCP!

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.24 15:32:00 - [183]
 

How do you connect to duality?

I downloaded patches. Tired full client install. Added /server:87.237.38.60 line. But it doesn't work.

Says incompatible release.

How can one get on duality?

Wolf Kruol
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.24 16:02:00 - [184]
 

Any one know how to get passed the login menu? do I have to register for beta testing? ugh

Kabaos
Posted - 2011.05.24 16:15:00 - [185]
 

Edited by: kabaos on 24/05/2011 16:15:59
Originally by: Opertone
How do you connect to duality?

I downloaded patches. Tired full client install. Added /server:87.237.38.60 line. But it doesn't work.

Says incompatible release.

How can one get on duality?

Download SiSilauncher and paste in folder Duality.It need help you
After launch it

Kabaos
Posted - 2011.05.24 16:18:00 - [186]
 

Edited by: kabaos on 25/05/2011 14:35:18
I have notebook not powerfull .Play eve on options low
But in CQ I have big lags FPS around 2-5

Report------------------
Time of this report: 5/24/2011, 18:44:37
Machine name: JYUHA-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Enterprise 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: Russian (Regional Setting: Russian)
System Manufacturer: eMachines
System Model: eMachines E725
BIOS: InsydeH2O Version V3.08
Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4300 @ 2.10GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 1978MB RAM
Page File: 1435MB used, 2520MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode


Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42&SUBSYS_02121025&REV_09
Display Memory: 796 MB
Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
Shared Memory: 732 MB
Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: LP156WH1-TLA3
Monitor Id: LGD01C2
Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.973Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: igdumdx32.dll,igd10umd32.dll
Driver File Version: 8.15.0010.2202 (English)
Driver Version: 8.15.10.2202
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/25/2010 12:28:22, 571904 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes



1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)
1.

2. Rate the overall performance
(1-5 scale)
1 on My Notebook


Viktor Bererund
Posted - 2011.05.24 20:02:00 - [187]
 

Ahk, wish I could log in. Anyone have any idea when they're going to update the mirror? My account got created just after it was updated last time...

Opertone
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.24 22:12:00 - [188]
 

I think that graphics are at 4.
Performance is at 4.

Overall impression is at 2. Minmatar CQ is too dark, barely any light sources. I had 20-30 FPS most of the time, outside the station I get 60 FPS. It doesn't feel right. Camera is uneasy. View point is somewhere behind character's back, some strange angle. Half the time I don't see what's ahead other than characters chest/back.

If you want to learn 3rd person camera try Hitman Codename 47 - the camera does the right things there.

Syberbolt8
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.05.24 22:44:00 - [189]
 

Edited by: Syberbolt8 on 24/05/2011 22:44:59
Originally by: CCP Tanis


!*! All questions should be rated 1-5 (1=Terrible, 5=Win) !*!
Quote:


Quote:
1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)
** Note that if you experience hardware issues, odd graphical bugs, etc. we would really like to get a DxDiag.txt from your machine to ehlp us identify edge cases and hardware incompatibility issues prior to releasing the code to TQ.


Rating: 3

FPS: 38 avg
UI: Slow to load station environment, Character Creator is slow to load. Menus respond fairly quickly.

Over all pretty nice, though it looks a bit pixelated.
Some lighting effects don't seem right and the main screen's gfx is a random mix of a few UI screens.

Quote:
2. Rate the overall performance
(1-5 scale)


Rating: 3



Quote:
3. General feedback
- In your own words, please provide general feedback for the new CQ/Tutorial experience. Also feel free to give us any comments, concerns, suggestions, and problems you encountered.


The room feels a bit empty and seems to lack anything to do in the room that can't already be done in the Station UI. Looking forward to future updates.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.05.24 23:18:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Emmy Mnemonic
Quote:
1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc) (1-5 scale)


Framerate=4 (30-45+ fps). No probs on highest settings on my NVidia 460 GTX.

...

Keep up the good work CCP!

That card should run Battlefield Bad Company 2 at that framerate (@ 1920x1200, 4AA, 8AF, High Quality, DX10).

People really need to get some perspective before doing their ratings. On a scale of 1-5 that's a solid 1 for the kind of environment and graphics settings available.

Henry Horn
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:36:00 - [191]
 

Name of my Character is Henry Horn

Please reactivate me

Tekki Batalyon
Posted - 2011.05.25 02:56:00 - [192]
 

All my tech issues have been mentioned already (floating red eyes, lips and neck).

3. Gameplay.
What happened to the Pod exit room? That gantry on the left of the balcony suggests I have to walk down to my ship. The pod should perhaps be sitting on a receptacle there.

Yusimicon
Posted - 2011.05.25 03:17:00 - [193]
 

Edited by: Yusimicon on 25/05/2011 03:18:41
1. Frame rate (4 out of 5), UI (3 out of 5), Visuals (3 out of 5)


2. Rate the overall performance
(3 out of 5)

3. General feedback
Frame rate has improved a bit as I didn't notice any drop in FPS when transitioning from the CQ to the walkway. The user interface should be a little less cumbersome. It feels like the UI is in the way when I try to interact with the environment. Also, what's up with the grainy picture? The environment has improved considerably such as lighting and the mirror and I like how my avatar is no longer stuck between the desk and sofa, but the image looks a bit grainy. I guess it will be fixed anyways before Incarna is released. After all, this is still a test version.

Oh, and one more thing. My character got stuck trying to undock from the station to complete a mission. I logged out and back in but it's still stuck. Please rectify this.

EDIT: My alt (Supercon) is the one that is stuck. Just so you know.

Belenos Stardust
Belenos Stardust Enterprises
Posted - 2011.05.25 05:30:00 - [194]
 

Edited by: Belenos Stardust on 25/05/2011 05:32:05
Originally by: Yusimicon

Oh, and one more thing. My character got stuck trying to undock from the station to complete a mission. I logged out and back in but it's still stuck. Please rectify this.

EDIT: My alt (Supercon) is the one that is stuck. Just so you know.


Just so you know, they did warn us NOT to attempt to undock because it would cause that issue. (It's on the first page of this thread)

Sue Cheng
Posted - 2011.05.25 07:11:00 - [195]
 

As soon as you have a testable Mac Version please let us know.

I would love to help getting this bugfree on the Mac also.

My system:
2011 iMac 27'' (Sandy Bridge)
i7 CPU
2GB Grafixcard
16 GB RAM
Latest OS X

Zarniwoop VanHarl
Posted - 2011.05.25 07:39:00 - [196]
 

1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc) (1-5 scale)
1 - even with everything set to low, only getting 4fps, which is not much better than when set to medium.

2. Rate the overall performance (1-5 scale)
1 - takes far too long to load - both the game at start-up, and then loading CQ - which takes several minutes. Once loaded is extremely sluggish.

3. General feedback
At the medium settings lighting levels are no better than in previous test - far too dark to see anything. Switching to low it is a lot better, but still a lot darker than the screen shots others are posting.
The low frame rate makes it just about impossible as a living environment.
Really needs an option to stay in ship when docked, otherwise I can see many new players giving up and not giving the game a chance.

Lenore Leelu
Posted - 2011.05.25 09:12:00 - [197]
 

I'm buying a Macbook Air 13" next month. I'll make sure I order it with 4Gb and with enough hard disk space (ok flash ram space) for Windows 7 to be installed, on which will go two installs of EVE (one for each account).

My question to those trialling Incarna is... has anyone tested it on the current or recent MacBook Airs? (the ones with the NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor). Is it enough to run the game in a satisfactory manner? I would probably run it with the graphics turned down and with a fan management program running to keep the machine cool.

Cheers
Lenore

Mitchello
B O R G
Posted - 2011.05.25 12:47:00 - [198]
 

1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)
Well, 1 to 2.5, depending on machine type. Laptop vs desktop.

2. Rate the overall performance.
(1-5 scale)
Again, 1 to 2.5, depending on machine type. Laptop vs desktop.

3. General feedback.
There's something either wierd or disturbing with the GPU programming. It should not make such a difference whether it is running off a desktop GPU or a mobility GPU of the same series and type. Had a few runs at pretty decent setups, but that is worrying (especially since so many folks run EVE on notebooks). Even with alternating detail settings the differences in graphics and overall performance remain.

It's nice to see touches to make the quarters look more human, but there should be choices in that. I'd never leave my quarters a mess Cool

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2011.05.25 15:33:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Lenore Leelu
I'm buying a Macbook Air 13" next month. I'll make sure I order it with 4Gb and with enough hard disk space (ok flash ram space) for Windows 7 to be installed, on which will go two installs of EVE (one for each account).

My question to those trialling Incarna is... has anyone tested it on the current or recent MacBook Airs? (the ones with the NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor). Is it enough to run the game in a satisfactory manner? I would probably run it with the graphics turned down and with a fan management program running to keep the machine cool.

Cheers
Lenore


do you have a home computer?

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/remote-desktop-client


handige harrie
Posted - 2011.05.25 15:51:00 - [200]
 

1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)
1 Even using all settings on Low, having everything the lowest it can go (no shadows no hdr etc). Everything is black, loading takes minutes, everything stutters. Framerate, between 1 and 3 FPS

2. Rate the overall performance
(1-5 scale)
1 Utterly unplayable. On TQ I get about 60 FPS in every situation, except some Supercap blob zoomed in, yet on Duality in station it hovers between 1 and 3 FPS. Moving your avatar (that doesn't show, model is missing or something) is impossible, not only can't you see anything, but due to the low FPS you keep stuttering in some general direction you clicked or walked, making it impossible to go were you want to go.

3. General feedback

General system Specs:

CPU: Amd Athlon 64 3500+
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 6800GS
RAM: 1GB

If this goes to Launch, without option to turn it off, Low spec users have to unsub, or not dock anymore since the game inside stations isn't playable, while in space I somehow manage to get 60+ FPS.
On a different note, my avatar model didn't show.

Worst. feature. ever.

kylloe
Posted - 2011.05.25 16:17:00 - [201]
 

i wish they would put a console in the hanger, or the quarters that would allow you see who, and whats going on out side the station. ive lost alot of ships and pods by a group of pirates tanking the turrets waiting for some one to exit the station. something like the overview that would tell you who is outside and if they're aggressive (yellow) or wanted (red), as well as if any pod killing has happened within the last hour. and if this is too much to ask then at the very least the use of the dscanner in the hanger.

Please?Crying or Very sad

Khmeracidious
Posted - 2011.05.25 17:14:00 - [202]
 

Edited by: Khmeracidious on 25/05/2011 17:15:20
1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
(1-5 scale)

Rate = 4

No performance issue, no lag, graphics is awsome ;)


2. Rate the overall performance
(1-5 scale)

rate = 3

All the environment is ok

3. General feedback

Average 45 fps, all graphics at maximum, antialiasing X4, very happy to finaly test wos, enjoyable experience ;)
the deplacement is still buggy, need adjustment.
Need more environment interaction.

playing for 40 minutes with no crash or major bug.

Keep going ccp, you're on the good road :)


Test with:

nvidia gtx580
intel I7 860
8GO DDRIII ram


Ps: just sorry for my terrible english Embarassed

Herring
Caldari
Pimpology
Posted - 2011.05.25 21:16:00 - [203]
 

Will it be possible to disable cq entirely until the final build?

I look forward to it eventually but right now, rl income/month doesn't allow for a new video card.

Or even beer.

Crying or Very sad

Gempei
Caldari
Siberian Khatru.
Posted - 2011.05.25 21:25:00 - [204]
 

1. Rate the graphics performance (framerate, UI lag, etc)
framerate: 1/5 - 5 FPS ugh(1280x800) on Duo 2,53GHz, 4GB RAM, GeForce 9600 (normal eve 50-60 FPS), ui lag: 3/5, graphics: 4/5

2. Rate the overall performance
2/5

3. General feedback
when i enter sofa a then exit sofa, i get stuck between sofa and table, i cant move for 10minut a then quit duality, overall impression is bad, low perfomance, bad camera, not good work Sad

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.05.25 22:20:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Lenore Leelu
My question to those trialling Incarna is... has anyone tested it on the current or recent MacBook Airs? (the ones with the NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor). Is it enough to run the game in a satisfactory manner? I would probably run it with the graphics turned down and with a fan management program running to keep the machine cool.
Define "satisfactory"…

It runs the game, and you can fly around, and even use the character designer at a decent pace if you pull the quality down. It does heat up, but it seems to survive (much better than the 1st-gen Airs, which were iffy beyond a 10-minute dash to update skills and market orders). All of this under OSX, though — no idea how it will do with Win7 installed. Also, no idea how it will handle Incarna since we haven't been able to test it yet, but it should work if the chargen is any indication.

I'd stay away from anything that requires performance, be it combat or missions, but beyond that, it will survive.

EFsakura
Posted - 2011.05.25 23:30:00 - [206]
 

Since I couldn't get CQ to load properly (Black screen, No character loaded, no station environment, I committed a Suicide by Undock.

i7 920 OC@ 3.8 ghz
12GB ram OCZ
GTX 460 Sli mode
4TB HDD

All that hardware gone to waste...

Bill Doughboy
Posted - 2011.05.25 23:46:00 - [207]
 

The Sisi launcher couldn't patch for me correctly so I downloaded the client and it fixed the corrupt file.

Can someone explain step 2 in greater detail for a newb please? thanks

2. Don't forget to create a shortcut to eve.exe and add " /server:duality" [note the space] in order to connect to the correct server.

And CCP wonders why the masses aren't on the test servers...

Tarn Kugisa
Caldari
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2011.05.26 01:22:00 - [208]
 

Edited by: Tarn Kugisa on 26/05/2011 01:24:02
cant log in ATM to duality with my normal character, singularity works though

Olivor
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:20:00 - [209]
 

Edited by: Olivor on 26/05/2011 02:22:27
Well,

What can I say... Four weeks til release date is it?

Best of luck. I predict many a late night, a still unfinished implementation upon release and LOADS of angry customers!

Issues: Framerate, Grain, Undocking, Hair, Ramps, UI, skin, only one of four races implemented, ridiculous autopathing, WASD seemingly do nothing, camera is centred two feet to the left regardless of options, takes around a minute to load... And that was only from ****ing around for a few minutes!

No wonder you didn't try and implement the full station release from the get go ahaha

Tel Matuin
Posted - 2011.05.26 02:28:00 - [210]
 

I have an iMac. I haven't been able to login into Duality. I downloaded a separate full client twice and followed the instructions but it tells me the build is incompatible. I tried to download the most recent patch and it says I already have it. When I try to download the TQ to Duality Patch it takes me to a blank page. Can anyone help?…And no, switching to windows won't solve my problem, nor will it ever happen.


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