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kittypaws
Posted - 2011.05.19 21:12:00 - [1]
 

Intended or just a bug after removing the abailty from jump bridges?

Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.05.19 21:17:00 - [2]
 

No they cannot.


A sad day, no longer can we titan hot drop capital ships. A moment of silence please.

Faith O'Siras
Posted - 2011.05.19 21:22:00 - [3]
 

Is this a troll?

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2011.05.20 00:47:00 - [4]
 

How does this change anything?
Joe has the Cyno, everyone jump to Joe?

Oh, that's right. Ur cap will be ****ed.

LOL LaughingLaughingLaughing

Im Super Gay
Posted - 2011.05.20 01:03:00 - [5]
 

Looks like we've got a case of the penny pinching cap pilot who doesn't want to pay for fuel Laughing

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.20 02:39:00 - [6]
 

Really? Niiice.

Patchnotes made it look like only POS Jump Bridges were affected.

Elzon1
Caldari
Shadow Boys Corp
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2011.05.20 02:56:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Aiwha
No they cannot.


A sad day, no longer can we titan hot drop capital ships. A moment of silence please.


*Bows head in silence*

*Quickly looks up in astonishment*

Megamaid! She's gone from suck to blow Shocked

Well, the jump bridge nerf went from meh to EPIC!

With supercarrier being the most isk efficient powerhouse on the field, why use titans now? Laughing

So now major alliances pretty much move as fast as the small alliances.

It seems CCP has accomplished their goal. ugh

Rubix Khamsi
Posted - 2011.05.20 03:25:00 - [8]
 

Im a sub-cap noobie, REALLY? Is this fur real?

Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2011.05.20 03:26:00 - [9]
 

AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zofe Stormcaller
B4D W0LF
B4D W01F
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:17:00 - [10]
 

Should be able to adapt. Along with the fleet you just need to include 2 guardians with highs full of energy transfers to cap the capital ships that jump in with the bridge. I can see this affecting smaller alliances that aren't as well organised, or small fleets intending to drop ratters in shiny ships and then jump out before people respond with anti-capital ships however.

Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
Posted - 2011.05.20 09:24:00 - [11]
 

There are few problems a gang of skilled Guardian/Basilisk pilots can't fix.

RoCkEt X
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:02:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: RoCkEt X on 20/05/2011 11:05:15
Its true that caps can no longer jump through a titan, i tested this on sisi sometime last week.

CAPS THROUGH TITAN:
We used to bridge our caps/supercarriers through the titan giving them full cap when they land - enabling our supers at least to immediately jump out if the **** hits the fan.

Another use for it was you bridge your caps to a midpoint, they have full cap so they can instantly jump to a new cyno, thus extending the instant deploying range of a cap fleet.

GOODBYE DRIVE-BY DOOMSDAYS:
After a titan doomsdays, it cant cloak or jump for 10 minutes because of its jumpdrive. There was a way round this:

Titan 'A' and titan 'B' scenario.

*Someone camping a jump bridge lights a cyno, Titan 'A' opens a bridge.
*Titan 'B' bridges through titan 'A' (and has full cap on landing)
*Titan 'B' alligns out
*Titan 'A' bridge ends and he jumps in manually - doomsdaying the target.
*Both titans warp to a safe.
*Titan 'B' opens a bridge - and titan 'A' can jump out.
*Titan 'B' still has full cap, and cyno's out.
*The End.

So, why could titan 'A' jump, having doomsdayed, well - bridging uses the jump drive of the ship that has opened the bridge, NOT the jumping ship's jumpdrive, which would be being disrupted by the doomsday device's cooldown timer.

This is no longer possible, so infact - its a stealthy titan nerf too.

An interesting concept for those of you who arent familiar with titan mechanics.

Hope you found this interesting

-rock.

Burnharder
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:11:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: RoCkEt X
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Titan 'A' and titan 'B' scenario.

*Someone camping a jump bridge lights a cyno, Titan 'A' opens a bridge.
*Titan 'B' bridges through titan 'A' (and has full cap on landing)
*Titan 'B' alligns out
*Titan 'A' bridge ends and he jumps in manually - doomsdaying the target.
*Both titans warp to a safe.
*Titan 'B' opens a bridge - and titan 'A' can jump out.
*Titan 'B' still has full cap, and cyno's out.
*The End.




If I was Titan pilot A, or Titan pilot B, I would have lost the will to live at step 4.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.05.20 11:54:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 20/05/2011 11:57:41
That is just stupid that you could titan bridge capitals. Capital ships were given jump capability for a reason.

Also it sound like they fixed an exploit where you could bypass the doomsday penalties.

RoCkEt X
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.05.20 12:28:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 20/05/2011 11:57:41
That is just stupid that you could titan bridge capitals. Capital ships were given jump capability for a reason.

Also it sound like they fixed an exploit where you could bypass the doomsday penalties.


yep it was stupid, i was surprized when i originally worked out it was possible, dosent mean the fact that they changed it dosent suck for me tho lol :)

Mina Banestar
Posted - 2011.05.20 12:42:00 - [16]
 

the only annoying thing about these changes is that they seem to also have removed the ability for covert fit t3s to jump through black ops bridges, if its what was intended then fine, bit of warning would have been nice but there you go, but if it wasnt can it be fixed sharpish, we were just starting to get some real use out of our black ops.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:05:00 - [17]
 

Now add 8 more titans to this example and imagine the distance you can project an entire fleet across eve in minutes.

EVE just got a Ton bigger

Commence tears part 1

Tears part two happens with the first 100+ freighter losses at gates trying to do logistics for a bunch of unknown morons that just want to run plexs allday


Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:23:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: RoCkEt X

...
Hope you found this interesting
...
-rock.



I did, thanks for the post

SKUNK

Ghazi
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:36:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Ghazi on 20/05/2011 13:39:22
Originally by: Mina Banestar
the only annoying thing about these changes is that they seem to also have removed the ability for covert fit t3s to jump through black ops bridges, if its what was intended then fine, bit of warning would have been nice but there you go, but if it wasnt can it be fixed sharpish, we were just starting to get some real use out of our black ops.


I noticed this yesterday. Originally it was saying that the t3's couldn't jump because of the interdiction nulifier, went refit and tried without interdiction nulifier and still didn't work. Ended up wasting about 100k fuel getting to deployment system for a huge dissapointment.

edit: unconfirmed - when attempting and failing to jump with t3's it uses the fuel anyways.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:37:00 - [20]
 

Wait a T3 COVERT configuration CANNOT jump through a COVERT jump bridge?

Why on earth not? Isn't that what covert jump bridges are for?


Jack Tronic
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:39:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Miilla
Wait a T3 COVERT configuration CANNOT jump through a COVERT jump bridge?

Why on earth not? Isn't that what covert jump bridges are for?





"Bug" or "feature", your pick. Anything that can fit a covert ops cloak is supposed to be able to use the covert bridge but CCP's lack of testing and the jump bridge changes seems to have broke T3s.

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:40:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Jack Tronic
Originally by: Miilla
Wait a T3 COVERT configuration CANNOT jump through a COVERT jump bridge?

Why on earth not? Isn't that what covert jump bridges are for?





"Bug" or "feature", your pick. Anything that can fit a covert ops cloak is supposed to be able to use the covert bridge but CCP's lack of testing and the jump bridge changes seems to have broke T3s.


Thats a BUG surely!

Has anybody opened this bug yet?

If not, do eeet.

Baneken
Gallente
The New Knighthood
Apocalypse Now.
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:41:00 - [23]
 

T3 not working is likely a bug (what a surprise a bug in my EVE) and will may be fixed some day in the future.

Jack Tronic
Posted - 2011.05.20 13:43:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Jack Tronic on 20/05/2011 13:42:59
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Jack Tronic
Originally by: Miilla
Wait a T3 COVERT configuration CANNOT jump through a COVERT jump bridge?

Why on earth not? Isn't that what covert jump bridges are for?





"Bug" or "feature", your pick. Anything that can fit a covert ops cloak is supposed to be able to use the covert bridge but CCP's lack of testing and the jump bridge changes seems to have broke T3s.


Thats a BUG surely!

Has anybody opened this bug yet?

If not, do eeet.


Pfft, I had it filed before the bug existed. Expect the "ELITE BUG HUNTERS" to look at it within the next the 2 months where only after being cursed out and griefed in game will they actually test the bug legitimately without just labeling it not a bug because they can't be bothered to get off their arse.

Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.05.20 14:51:00 - [25]
 

You can still bridge Freighters, right?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.05.20 14:55:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Lady Spank on 20/05/2011 14:55:56
Regarding the Tech III covert config: It's a bug that CCP acknowledge, but have no idea how to fix; therefore is deemed a 'feature'.

Ghazi
Posted - 2011.05.20 17:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Val'Dore
You can still bridge Freighters, right?


Freighters yes, jump freighters no.

Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.05.20 17:20:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Val''Dore on 20/05/2011 17:20:57
Originally by: Val'Dore
You can still bridge Freighters, right?


I read the patch notes.

But can anyone confirm this? And JFs now can't bridge with a Titan?

EDIT: Lol Timing is everything.

Thanks for the confirmation.


 

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