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Demolishar
Posted - 2011.05.15 20:04:00 - [1]
 

Is it worthwhile to train a carrier if I don't and probably never will have a cyno alt?

Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
Posted - 2011.05.15 20:54:00 - [2]
 

Maybe.

Zan Shiro
Posted - 2011.05.16 00:03:00 - [3]
 

cyno alts jsut let you move your carrier around when you want to. These would be your pve runs, or empire runs where you probably won't find a volunteer to be your mid points and desto cyno in that last low sec system like say chamemi.


If looking to combat carrier it...fleet ops always have the cyno's in place.


More local stuff...see how cool your copr is with friendly people. HAd one carrier friend, his cyno alts in locations too far away I'd cyno him local no problems. Of course he was smart enough to offer free transport of stuff...or let me tag along on ca's to sponge bounties. Then there were the sponges who wore out their welcome. Not even a thanks or some lo to run the cyno...first time shame on you, second time shame on me. No third time after that, Ima nice guy, nice guy != bi..... lol.

Not running cyno alts, be nice to the people you are asking to cyno the tl;dr .

Adrian Idaho
Posted - 2011.05.16 06:08:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Zan Shiro
cyno alts jsut let you move your carrier around when you want to. These would be your pve runs, or empire runs where you probably won't find a volunteer to be your mid points and desto cyno in that last low sec system like say chamemi.


If looking to combat carrier it...fleet ops always have the cyno's in place.


More local stuff...see how cool your copr is with friendly people. HAd one carrier friend, his cyno alts in locations too far away I'd cyno him local no problems. Of course he was smart enough to offer free transport of stuff...or let me tag along on ca's to sponge bounties. Then there were the sponges who wore out their welcome. Not even a thanks or some lo to run the cyno...first time shame on you, second time shame on me. No third time after that, Ima nice guy, nice guy != bi..... lol.

Not running cyno alts, be nice to the people you are asking to cyno the tl;dr .

Are you drunk?

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.05.16 10:20:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Demolishar
Is it worthwhile to train a carrier if I don't and probably never will have a cyno alt?

Similar question: is it worthwhile to train hulk if i will never manufacture? Or: is it worthwhile to train planet interaction if i don't want to do POS?

Carrier don't need cyno for its life. Cyno is only needed for traveling between systems. Most carriers spend 90% of life in one system doing anomalies Laughing

RavenPaine
Posted - 2011.05.16 17:54:00 - [6]
 

A carrier is a fleet assist ship, first and foremost. If you think you would like to be in fleets with a carrier Very Happy Then yes.

Cyno alt is something that would be on a second account. If you dont have a second account, then you can make a first account alt that still runs a cyno. Then at least when ppl help you , you have the ability tohelp them back on another occasion.

Cyno is a short/fast trane btw. That alt could do many other things and be very useful.

CaptainSyler
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.16 18:22:00 - [7]
 

cyno alt takes 6 days -.- so yes its worth to train a carrier Laughing

Demolishar
Posted - 2011.05.17 03:43:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Demolishar on 17/05/2011 03:43:06
Originally by: CaptainSyler
cyno alt takes 6 days -.- so yes its worth to train a carrier Laughing


Costs 400mil a month in PLEX. That really adds up.


Although... with the infite alt account thing, maybe it could be a lot cheaper Twisted Evil

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.05.17 23:34:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Demolishar
Originally by: CaptainSyler
cyno alt takes 6 days -.- so yes its worth to train a carrier Laughing

Costs 400mil a month in PLEX. That really adds up.

Although... with the infite alt account thing, maybe it could be a lot cheaper Twisted Evil

If you can afford to pilot a carrier, you can afford 400m/month.

Put some PI or industry on those alts, and you will be making more than that.

Captain J Planet
Posted - 2011.05.17 23:39:00 - [10]
 

DO I WANT A CARRIER CHECK-LIST:
1. AM I OUT OF HIGHSEC?
2. AM I IN A PLAYER CORP?
3. AM I AWARE OF JUMP DRIVE MECHANICS?
4. AM I ABLE TO USE A CYNO ALT?
5. AM I GOING TO USE THE THING?
6. AM I ABLE TO REPLACE IT?

If you answered, "yes," to all of these you might be ready.

Sonya Kranz
Posted - 2011.05.18 20:14:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Captain J Planet
DO I WANT A CARRIER CHECK-LIST:
1. AM I OUT OF HIGHSEC?
2. AM I IN A PLAYER CORP?
3. AM I AWARE OF JUMP DRIVE MECHANICS?
4. AM I ABLE TO USE A CYNO ALT?
5. AM I GOING TO USE THE THING?
6. AM I ABLE TO REPLACE IT?

If you answered, "yes," to all of these you might be ready.


This.
Its a good checklist to keep in mind if you are thinking about training for a carrier
Dont forget that just training all the skills is going to set you back a billion isk, and then you dont even have a carrier yet.

Linsyn
Posted - 2011.05.19 09:39:00 - [12]
 

Should you be in 0.0 if you want to do pve with your corp, carrier for anomalies can make huge sums of money and pay for itself in no time

If you want fleet pvp a carrier can be great, not so much in low sec and totally useless if you live in high sec

crimson fire
Posted - 2011.05.20 08:10:00 - [13]
 

so many ppl can make a cyno for you its no problem.

Czeris
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.21 06:00:00 - [14]
 

There are also these wonderful things that every decent SOV holding alliance has called Cyno Beacons that you can jump to without ever involving another player, or alt. Magic.

betty drunkenlord
Posted - 2011.05.23 21:05:00 - [15]
 

yes.

for crazy c5/c6 isk printing - disregard all cyno crap.

-bd

Illectroculus Defined
No Bull Ships
Posted - 2011.05.24 17:21:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Demolishar
Is it worthwhile to train a carrier if I don't and probably never will have a cyno alt?


If you don't train it, and have the opportunity to steal them then you'll be kicking yourself.

Dr Nefarius
Posted - 2011.05.24 21:16:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Czeris
There are also these wonderful things that every decent SOV holding alliance has called Cyno Beacons that you can jump to without ever involving another player, or alt. Magic.


Isn't this going away with the nerf to jumpbridges?

Rebbecca Black
Posted - 2011.05.25 10:30:00 - [18]
 

no, what he's talking about are PoS Modules that are cyno beacons which you can jump to. All decent sov holding alliances have them.

Goldman Suchs
Posted - 2011.05.25 11:35:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Originally by: Zan Shiro
cyno alts jsut let you move your carrier around when you want to. These would be your pve runs, or empire runs where you probably won't find a volunteer to be your mid points and desto cyno in that last low sec system like say chamemi.


If looking to combat carrier it...fleet ops always have the cyno's in place.


More local stuff...see how cool your copr is with friendly people. HAd one carrier friend, his cyno alts in locations too far away I'd cyno him local no problems. Of course he was smart enough to offer free transport of stuff...or let me tag along on ca's to sponge bounties. Then there were the sponges who wore out their welcome. Not even a thanks or some lo to run the cyno...first time shame on you, second time shame on me. No third time after that, Ima nice guy, nice guy != bi..... lol.

Not running cyno alts, be nice to the people you are asking to cyno the tl;dr .

Are you drunk?


I think he's saying he's a bi guy.

Robert Caldera
Posted - 2011.05.25 12:34:00 - [20]
 

carrier without cyno alts is a very crippled way of using a carrier IMO.

If you decide making any, carriers are very useful ships for multiple purposes:
-logistics
-PvE
-combat (triage) carriers are a very powerful tool

Adrian Idaho
Posted - 2011.05.26 05:58:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Goldman Suchs
Originally by: Adrian Idaho
Originally by: Zan Shiro
cyno alts jsut let you move your carrier around when you want to. These would be your pve runs, or empire runs where you probably won't find a volunteer to be your mid points and desto cyno in that last low sec system like say chamemi.


If looking to combat carrier it...fleet ops always have the cyno's in place.


More local stuff...see how cool your copr is with friendly people. HAd one carrier friend, his cyno alts in locations too far away I'd cyno him local no problems. Of course he was smart enough to offer free transport of stuff...or let me tag along on ca's to sponge bounties. Then there were the sponges who wore out their welcome. Not even a thanks or some lo to run the cyno...first time shame on you, second time shame on me. No third time after that, Ima nice guy, nice guy != bi..... lol.

Not running cyno alts, be nice to the people you are asking to cyno the tl;dr .

Are you drunk?


I think he's saying he's a bi guy.

Maybe he wants people to cyno the TL;DR.

I likegirls
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.28 04:06:00 - [22]
 

I'll light the cynos for you.

gonesideways
Posted - 2011.05.31 16:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Zan Shiro
...These would be your pve runs...to be your mid points and desto cyno in that last low sec system like say chamemi.


godamm spais everywhere

Test1 Mileghere
Posted - 2011.06.06 10:07:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Dr Nefarius
Originally by: Czeris
There are also these wonderful things that every decent SOV holding alliance has called Cyno Beacons that you can jump to without ever involving another player, or alt. Magic.


Isn't this going away with the nerf to jumpbridges?


How exactly does a JB nerf affect Cyno Beacons?

icechip
Caldari
Angelus.Mortis
The Jagged Alliance
Posted - 2011.06.06 13:15:00 - [25]
 

Couldn't live w/ out my carrier.


 

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