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Jacob William
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:26:00 - [1]
 

I know how to get the splash screen to not show, but is there a way to eliminate the pause in the load?

It takes 17 seconds to get to the log in screen whether the splash screen is enabled or not.

Looking at PerfMon, it's certainly not processor or HDD related. Max of 13% usage on the processor and less than 750KB/S on the HDD during load. Considering I can load Photoshop CS5 in under 3 seconds, EVE should just as fast.

Sverige Pahis
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:30:00 - [2]
 

How do you disable the splash?

Outouchmatralala
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:35:00 - [3]
 

seriously?

clear your cache bro


Jacob William
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:46:00 - [4]
 

There's a graphic file you rename....can't recall what it is. Not that it matter because it doesn't speed it up at all.

Cache is cleared. Still 17 seconds. Didn't figure that to be the issue though since it's happened since I did a fresh install to my entire system.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.05.11 21:30:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 11/05/2011 21:34:09

Open EVE after long no-EVE break. Takes 26 seconds. Didn't look at CPU&HDD use, just time.
Close EVE, reopen EVE. 17 seconds. HDD&CPU use minimal.
Close EVE again, reopen EVE again. 17 seconds again. HDD&CPU use minimal.

Hmm. I doubt my machine is nearly identical to that of the OP, but you never know. Odd.

5nake pliskan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:14:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: 5nake pliskan on 11/05/2011 22:15:05
load times for me have tripled since the last major update a month or 2 ago
startup, relog, all the same amount of time on the splash screen or desktop waiting for the splash, and all much longer than before.
never seen it this slow since beta

i7 64bit

AtheistOfFail
AoF Lottery Services
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:15:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 11/05/2011 21:34:09

Open EVE after long no-EVE break. Takes 26 seconds. Didn't look at CPU&HDD use, just time.
Close EVE, reopen EVE. 17 seconds. HDD&CPU use minimal.
Close EVE again, reopen EVE again. 17 seconds again. HDD&CPU use minimal.

Hmm. I doubt my machine is nearly identical to that of the OP, but you never know. Odd.



10 ISK says a lazy programmer hard-coded a delay on the time between splash screen and client opening.

Florence Valentine
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:31:00 - [8]
 

I can confirm this too. There is a very noticeable "longer" delay in loading the client since about patch 1.2 or so. 17 seconds sounds about right.

It is amazing how annoying just 17 seconds is. CCP, fix please.

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:47:00 - [9]
 

"%EVE%/bin/ExeFile.exe" /nosplash /noconsole /minidump

And 17 seconds... go make tea, dude. Comparing massive amount of D3D initializations with stupid 1-window program startup is soo wrong.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:50:00 - [10]
 

I was curious about this too.

If you turn on the logging server you can see it's actually loading a ton of things. Could do with some feed back to the users. It's not stalling, just feels like it.

CCP Stillman

Posted - 2011.05.11 23:02:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Spurty
I was curious about this too.

If you turn on the logging server you can see it's actually loading a ton of things. Could do with some feed back to the users. It's not stalling, just feels like it.

Spurty is right. The client does load a lot of things on load of things on startup, which means it takes a bit of time for the actual window to present itself to you.

But at the same time, those of you who's noticed that the client recently has taken a bit longer to load are right as well. It will be fixed in the next major patch. Smile

sodney
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:09:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: CCP Stillman
Originally by: Spurty
I was curious about this too.

If you turn on the logging server you can see it's actually loading a ton of things. Could do with some feed back to the users. It's not stalling, just feels like it.

Spurty is right. The client does load a lot of things on load of things on startup, which means it takes a bit of time for the actual window to present itself to you.

But at the same time, those of you who's noticed that the client recently has taken a bit longer to load are right as well. It will be fixed in the next major patch. Smile


whenever a new major patch comes out (like a new splash screen sorta big patch) it seems to work lightning fast for me, then over time get slower and slower. Until the next patch, not sure if it's related >< Or I'm seeing things.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:19:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 11/05/2011 23:29:12

Originally by: CCP Stillman
Spurty is right. The client does load a lot of things on load of things on startup, which means it takes a bit of time for the actual window to present itself to you.

Yeah, but the question is, WHY is it loading so slow ?
Where does it load it from and where ?
The HDD is not heavily used, and the CPU is not anywhere near 100%, not even for a single core, and the memory size after full load is a mere 244-245MB after starting up with 109MB in the first couple of seconds.
So the HDD is not a bottleneck, the CPU is not a bottleneck, WHAT IS the bottleneck that makes it load in 17 seconds on almost all machines regardless of machine power ?

With just the information so far, one is almost tempted to conclude that there's a long string of fixed time delays which make the bulk of those 17 seconds of waiting, when the client could theoretically load in just a couple of seconds on "stronger" machines otherwise.

Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:40:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Merouk Baas on 11/05/2011 23:41:22
Professional programs show a loading bar at the bottom of their splash screen. Actually, they have an interactive splash screen (with buttons to Play Game, Cancel, or connect to various official web pages / tech support) that also shows useful information (such as whether the server is up, how many people are connected, version information, etc).

At the splash screen, EVE should load the security (anti-macro) routine first, then do server and login handshaking, then load up its cache/etc. Loading up the graphics and game engine should happen last.

EDIT: Akita, test for you: unplug from the internet and start EVE, see if it's faster.

Lord Viziam
GunStars
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:56:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Lord Viziam on 11/05/2011 23:56:42
Originally by: Akita T

Yeah, but the question is, WHY is it loading so slow ?
Where does it load it from and where ?
The HDD is not heavily used, and the CPU is not anywhere near 100%, not even for a single core, and the memory size after full load is a mere 244-245MB after starting up with 109MB in the first couple of seconds.
So the HDD is not a bottleneck, the CPU is not a bottleneck, WHAT IS the bottleneck that makes it load in 17 seconds on almost all machines regardless of machine power ?

With just the information so far, one is almost tempted to conclude that there's a long string of fixed time delays which make the bulk of those 17 seconds of waiting, when the client could theoretically load in just a couple of seconds on "stronger" machines otherwise.


Who the frick gives a frack? CCP Stillman said it will be fixed.. Do you seriously have nothing better to do than wonder about ****e like this? Get a fricken life..

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.05.12 00:19:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lord Viziam
Who the frick gives a frack? CCP Stillman said it will be fixed.. Do you seriously have nothing better to do than wonder about ****e like this? Get a fricken life..

I give a frak, and some other people do.
Just because he said it will be "fixed" doesn't mean it will.
For the huuugely long time of maybe 5 minutes, no, I had absolutely nothing better to do.
Funny how you also don't have enough of a life to not snap at random people wondering about how stuff works the way it does instead of some other way. You must absolutely and totally hate the Discovery channels too.

Originally by: Merouk Baas
Akita, test for you: unplug from the internet and start EVE, see if it's faster.

Disabled the network card.
Same 17 seconds from double click on EVE shortcut to the actual login screen fading in, give or take half a second.
Basically, no noticeable effect.

Kalpel
Caldari
United Systems of the Allegiance
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.05.12 00:24:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Jacob William
I know how to get the splash screen to not show, but is there a way to eliminate the pause in the load?

It takes 17 seconds to get to the log in screen whether the splash screen is enabled or not.

Looking at PerfMon, it's certainly not processor or HDD related. Max of 13% usage on the processor and less than 750KB/S on the HDD during load. Considering I can load Photoshop CS5 in under 3 seconds, EVE should just as fast.



Our logs show nothing! please move along, thank you

Tamarah Zer
Posted - 2011.05.12 00:49:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Kalpel
Originally by: Jacob William
I know how to get the splash screen to not show, but is there a way to eliminate the pause in the load?

It takes 17 seconds to get to the log in screen whether the splash screen is enabled or not.

Looking at PerfMon, it's certainly not processor or HDD related. Max of 13% usage on the processor and less than 750KB/S on the HDD during load. Considering I can load Photoshop CS5 in under 3 seconds, EVE should just as fast.



Our logs show nothing! please move along, thank you


Instead of spouting meme #394857349537 you should probably read the dev's reply in this thread.

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2011.05.12 01:29:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: CCP Stillman
Originally by: Spurty
I was curious about this too.

If you turn on the logging server you can see it's actually loading a ton of things. Could do with some feed back to the users. It's not stalling, just feels like it.

Spurty is right. The client does load a lot of things on load of things on startup, which means it takes a bit of time for the actual window to present itself to you.

But at the same time, those of you who's noticed that the client recently has taken a bit longer to load are right as well. It will be fixed in the next major patch. Smile


I have noticed that, I was curious as to why that was the case

Mitera
Posted - 2011.05.12 11:59:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Mitera on 12/05/2011 12:01:49
Just thought I'd follow-up.

My system has a i7-960, Radeon 5850 and a C300 SSD. If I'm getting the exact same load times as someone who has a lower-end processor, video card and regular HDD, then it HAS to be a built in delay. Granted, I don't know if other users who posted times have similar configurations.

I was just hoping that there was a switch or parameter to disable it.

And you're right, 17 seconds is not a big deal. But it SEEMS like a long time when there's nothing going on.

(Meh....I'm the OP....just posted on wrong character....)

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:12:00 - [21]
 

On my MacBook Air, it takes 24s before the screen goes black and 30s total before I'm at the login screen…

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:13:00 - [22]
 

Introduction of the delay *seemed* to occur with the patch claiming better anti-macro trickery.

I for one couldn't care less about 17seconds. Eve boots into a playable state far quicker than any other game I have installed. If it's there for a reason, leave it be.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:15:00 - [23]
 

9 seconds for me

Djavo
Midas Tycho
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:25:00 - [24]
 

CCP pure and utter comic genius... Soon™


Florence Valentine
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:26:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
I for one couldn't care less about 17seconds. Eve boots into a playable state far quicker than any other game I have installed. If it's there for a reason, leave it be.


I'd probably feel the same, but it becomes really annoying when switching alt's and having to regularly log-out/log-in (I'm too poor to run separate accounts, both in $$'s and ISKies).

Actually, why on earth does the client need to shutdown completely in order to switch between characters on a single account? All that purging and re-loading seems totally unecessary and redundant. CCP, please fix.

theRaptor
Caldari
Tactical Operations
Posted - 2011.05.12 12:28:00 - [26]
 

I can go from clicking an icon to being ingame in other MMO's in the time it takes to go from clicking login to getting the character select screen in EvE.

As an Australian with an "average" net connection (aka drops a couple of times an hour at peak times) it gets annoying. Luckily I spend most of my time station spinning so it hasn't cost me a ship yet.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.12 13:36:00 - [27]
 

Screw the splash screen.

How will I be able to disable loading the Captain´s Quarter?
Short of hitting that unsub.buttan.

Khanya Trace
Posted - 2011.05.12 14:23:00 - [28]
 

Well my EVE is on a solid state drive and i have new sandy bridge CPUs, interestingly the splash screen stays for about 17 seconds.Question

Morganta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:12:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Morganta on 12/05/2011 15:12:32
Originally by: Khanya Trace
Well my EVE is on a solid state drive and i have new sandy bridge CPUs, interestingly the splash screen stays for about 17 seconds.Question


well I have a 7800 RPM disc drive and a sandy vag and I'm still having the same problem Twisted Evil

good to know it will get fixed "soon"

Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:15:00 - [30]
 

Not sure what any of you are talking about, takes 8.7 seconds for me. Razz


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