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Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.11 18:00:00 - [1]
 

In this post I'm looking for nemesis fits. Pimped ones. This nemesis will be used in wormholes.

Requirements:
Must have a probe launcher.
Must be able to cloak.
Must be able to fire missiles.
Faction/Deadspace mods allowed.
No officer mods.

Prize 15m.

Go!

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.05.11 18:35:00 - [2]
 

for that you better get a manticore.


really.

The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.11 18:42:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: The Huffarunier on 11/05/2011 18:43:10
I'll bite, although this wont be "Pimp", it will be the bones form which you can build it but know you are going to have short comings, especially in the lows.

[Highs]
1x covert ops cloak
1x bomb launcher Ė Scorch
1x probe launcher
2x Siege Launchers - Inferno
[Mids]
1x 1mn Microwarp drive
1x Cap recharger II
1x Sensor Booster II Ė Scan Resolution
[Low]
1x BCS II
1x nanofiber II
[Rigs]
2x Bay Thrusters

Your DPS will not be great, your alpha will be decent but youíre a glass cannon gimped because your missing a low. Otherwise this is near what I use for my 0.0 trips for ratting although I donít carry a probe launcher Iím gimped with a Helios for that.



Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:00:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
for that you better get a manticore.


really.


Say it aint so!?

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:09:00 - [5]
 

[Nemesis, test fit (w/ normal probes)]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II

Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I


Wasn't sure if you wanted a normal probe launcher or an expanded. If you want to fit the expanded, you're going to need co-procs in the lows, for sure.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:09:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Captain Die
Originally by: Grimpak
for that you better get a manticore.


really.


Say it aint so!?

Razz

Loraine Gess
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:11:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: The Huffarunier
Edited by: The Huffarunier on 11/05/2011 18:43:10
I'll bite, although this wont be "Pimp", it will be the bones form which you can build it but know you are going to have short comings, especially in the lows.

[Highs]
1x covert ops cloak
1x bomb launcher Ė Scorch
1x probe launcher
2x Siege Launchers - Inferno
[Mids]
1x 1mn Microwarp drive
1x Cap recharger II
1x Sensor Booster II Ė Scan Resolution
[Low]
1x BCS II
1x nanofiber II
[Rigs]
2x Bay Thrusters

Your DPS will not be great, your alpha will be decent but youíre a glass cannon gimped because your missing a low. Otherwise this is near what I use for my 0.0 trips for ratting although I donít carry a probe launcher Iím gimped with a Helios for that.





>Cap recharger
>Range rigs


You really have no idea how to fit a SB, do you?

The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Edited by: The Huffarunier on 11/05/2011 18:43:10
I'll bite, although this wont be "Pimp", it will be the bones form which you can build it but know you are going to have short comings, especially in the lows.

[Highs]
1x covert ops cloak
1x bomb launcher Ė Scorch
1x probe launcher
2x Siege Launchers - Inferno
[Mids]
1x 1mn Microwarp drive
1x Cap recharger II
1x Sensor Booster II Ė Scan Resolution
[Low]
1x BCS II
1x nanofiber II
[Rigs]
2x Bay Thrusters

Your DPS will not be great, your alpha will be decent but youíre a glass cannon gimped because your missing a low. Otherwise this is near what I use for my 0.0 trips for ratting although I donít carry a probe launcher Iím gimped with a Helios for that.





>Cap recharger
>Range rigs


You really have no idea how to fit a SB, do you?


He wants an impossible task and your commenting on it??

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:21:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 11/05/2011 19:21:41
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Edited by: The Huffarunier on 11/05/2011 18:43:10
I'll bite, although this wont be "Pimp", it will be the bones form which you can build it but know you are going to have short comings, especially in the lows.

[Highs]
1x covert ops cloak
1x bomb launcher Ė Scorch
1x probe launcher
2x Siege Launchers - Inferno
[Mids]
1x 1mn Microwarp drive
1x Cap recharger II
1x Sensor Booster II Ė Scan Resolution
[Low]
1x BCS II
1x nanofiber II
[Rigs]
2x Bay Thrusters

Your DPS will not be great, your alpha will be decent but youíre a glass cannon gimped because your missing a low. Otherwise this is near what I use for my 0.0 trips for ratting although I donít carry a probe launcher Iím gimped with a Helios for that.





>Cap recharger
>Range rigs


You really have no idea how to fit a SB, do you?


He wants an impossible task and your commenting on it??
this is true.Razz

Loraine, it's nigh on impossible to squeeze a probe launcher (even a sisters core launcher) in a nemesis without sacrificing 1 or 2 medslots.

if you notice huff's setup, it has 1 empty mid.

The Huffarunier
Gallente
The Real OC
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:26:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Edited by: Grimpak on 11/05/2011 19:21:41
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: The Huffarunier
Edited by: The Huffarunier on 11/05/2011 18:43:10
I'll bite, although this wont be "Pimp", it will be the bones form which you can build it but know you are going to have short comings, especially in the lows.

[Highs]
1x covert ops cloak
1x bomb launcher Ė Scorch
1x probe launcher
2x Siege Launchers - Inferno
[Mids]
1x 1mn Microwarp drive
1x Cap recharger II
1x Sensor Booster II Ė Scan Resolution
[Low]
1x BCS II
1x nanofiber II
[Rigs]
2x Bay Thrusters

Your DPS will not be great, your alpha will be decent but youíre a glass cannon gimped because your missing a low. Otherwise this is near what I use for my 0.0 trips for ratting although I donít carry a probe launcher Iím gimped with a Helios for that.





>Cap recharger
>Range rigs


You really have no idea how to fit a SB, do you?


He wants an impossible task and your commenting on it??
this is true.Razz

Loraine, it's nigh on impossible to squeeze a probe launcher (even a sisters core launcher) in a nemesis without sacrificing 1 or 2 medslots.

if you notice huff's setup, it has 1 empty mid.


I want to go EFT this and see what I can do about adding a proe launcher. From what I can rememebr about my nemi, this isn't even a question of how, but if it is even possible. You may even have to giv eup 2 mids .

NoNah
Posted - 2011.05.11 19:36:00 - [11]
 

You people read alot into it that wasn't mentioned in the first post. It doesn't remotely require any pimp, and can be used quite effectively solo. I used to enjoy something VERY similar in a hound, probing out sanctums and saying hi to the locals. The point is of course just a safety measure, backup tended to arrive, albeit rarely sometimes in time.

[Nemesis, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Ballistic Control System II

Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Medium Shield Extender II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Domination Warp Disruptor

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I

Replace ammo as fit, obviously.

Warzon3
Perkone
Posted - 2011.05.11 20:04:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Warzon3 on 11/05/2011 20:28:04

This is best I can come up with (wich is almost a identical fit compared to my manticore but manti is a bit easier on fitting)


[Nemesis, solo pvp]
Domination Ballistic Control System
Domination Ballistic Control System

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I


In my opinion a bomber needs to do 3 things:
1. be able to deal a lot of damage in a short amount of time
2. Don't get hit
3. if it gets hit be able to survive atleast some hits

The above fit does all 3 it does 621 DPS (overheated obviously but you can overload for a pretty good amount of time +2 minutes) with 4462 volley damage wich is ****ing insane for a frigate sized ship.

It makes sure it will not get hit due to the tracking speed disrupter (obviously only if enemy uses turrets) and using the afterburner it doesn't get increased signature radius which is nice if enemy shoots missiles at you or sends drones to go omnomnom.

and it got a MSE to make sure that if enemy sends some drones to go omnomnom at you you will atleast be able to throw a few more volley's.

This is a tried and tested fit altough I fly it with a manticore.

The Domination BCS are really needed cause of CPU (you can go CN obviously but that makes it more expensive domi's are cheap and offer the same bonuses as T2)

It needs a 1% CPU implant.
Costs are around 160 mil which I hope is within your budget.

(I know it is expensive but my manti costs 100 mil as well and is worth every bit of isk it's just to bad this ship needs 2 faction BCU's cause of ****ed up CPU)

if you ever need a bomber buddy let me know Wink

Edit: hit me up ingame if you got any questions

Abenham
Posted - 2011.05.11 22:47:00 - [13]
 

Seriously - train another racial frigate to V. It will take less time than trying to create a workable solo nemesis fit.

Warzon3
Perkone
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:05:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Abenham
Seriously - train another racial frigate to V. It will take less time than trying to create a workable solo nemesis fit.


I don't think it matters every bomber is decent they can all do over 600 DPS only difference is that the hound and purifier got 3 mids and 3 lows while the manti and nemesis have 4 mids and 2 lows altough the third low on hound and purifier usually gets taken up by a CO-processor cause they suck on CPU.
Nemesis sucks on cpu as well but as shown above it can be fixed by using some faction while still having the added bonus of a 4th midslot for a tracking disruptor (or wathever else you want to fit there)

obviously you can also fit 3 faction BCU's on purifier and hound but that only adds like 40-50 DPS wich isn't worth it imo

anyway no bomber really sucks altough some are just easier to fit then others and it all depends on the fact of wich frigate skill you got to lvl V

Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:20:00 - [15]
 

[Nemesis, Eh? eh?]
Domination Ballistic Control System
Domination Ballistic Control System

Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption

'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Bomb Launcher I, Electron Bomb (or switched out with another launcher)
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Paikis
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.05.11 23:58:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Paikis on 11/05/2011 23:59:22
Requirements:
Must have a probe launcher. CHECK
Must be able to cloak. CHECK
Must be able to fire missiles. CHECK
Faction/Deadspace mods allowed. CHECK
No officer mods. CHECK
Nemesis. Not quite...

[Manticore, Wormholes eh?]
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Co-Processor II

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

Republic Fleet Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Republic Fleet Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Republic Fleet Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I


Adacia Calla
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.12 02:09:00 - [17]
 

CPU is so tight on this thing it's almost impossible to do anything with it.


[Nemesis, stupidthing]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner

Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Torpedo
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing II

Pomeroy Wyrd
Posted - 2011.05.12 02:22:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Paikis
Edited by: Paikis on 11/05/2011 23:59:22

Nemesis. Not quite...




This.

Pricetag is loltastic but, this is as good as it gets me thinks Smile

Paikis
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.05.12 02:35:00 - [19]
 

I'm seeing alot of CORE probe launchers rather than EXPANDED launchers... good for finding 'things' but not for finding ships. So here's what I would use if ISK wasn't an issue and I didn't need the combat probes. Fits with all Vs and a 5% grid implant.

720 DPS, 5200 volley out to 50 kms, and a TP to make some of that damage actually apply to the target.

[Manticore, Wormholes]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Rage Torpedo
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Rage Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Juggernaut Rage Torpedo

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Ancillary Current Router II


Captain Nares
Posted - 2011.05.12 11:24:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Captain Die



Best solo Nemesis is Purifier/Hound. Sorry.


 

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