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Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:09:00 - [1861]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


It funny how everyone that whines over this change doesn't seem to remember that alliances existed before JB were ingame


fixed for you NC alt


Says the no SOV owning ****

thanks for proving my point

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:11:00 - [1862]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


It funny how everyone that whines over this change doesn't seem to remember that alliances existed before JB were ingame


fixed for you NC alt


Says the no SOV owning ****

thanks for proving my point


U mad ?

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:12:00 - [1863]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


Uhmm you got paid 600 billion from rat botters STFU


Your leaders RMT`d all your tech ISK otherwise you could have and would have hired PL




Nah we fight our own battles ... but thats maybe because ivan's bots can't fleet


Now get back to your NPC station

Seth Rock
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:13:00 - [1864]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Dodgy Past
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 11/05/2011 00:39:48
There's a very solid vibe that people 'own space' but don't feel safe in it, otherwise they wouldn't be so upset by this change.

Simply put, if you can't police your space why do you think you deserve it?

Maybe you should start actively policing it, and not just putting up random gangs but put these gargantuan brains that dwarf the thuggish PvP'ers who could never design a jump bridge network to other uses. This is another part of the game and content that other people are creating, so make the most of it and enjoy it.


Says a guys from PL ... dude you guys hide in NPC space and own nothing .... the day you have worthy SOV space you will be flipping your tune cause half of Eve would be dogpiling that ****

Mark my words ... as soon as this war is over CCP will change it back, Ivan can't pay for his fleets of mercs without them.


how cute, the ncdcpethidingbehindanalt is mad...you forget that there once was a time where there were no jump bridges. police your space or stop crying because you want risk free ratting/too lazy to take a gate to the next bridge.

you are pretty clueless if you think this will change after the north burns to the ground.

Reaper Chambers
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:15:00 - [1865]
 

I would like to put this idea to a vote of the players! Otherwise this may end up not making the most happy, but may make the majority of the players unhappy. CCP can you hear me!?!?!?! Put this JB business to a vote!

Manfred Sideous
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:16:00 - [1866]
 

CCP your on the right track. There are a million games out there people can play if they want it easy. Eve is supposed to be hard for the hardcore gamer. Risk vs Reward needs major addressing in 0.0. I played Everquest from 2000 -2004 the game use to rock. Then they put in easy travel easy access to everything. It slowly killed the game among other things.

0.0 should be cold and brutal but if you work hard it should give benefits that lowsec and empire could only dream of. CCP haters are gonna hate and these whiners are your run of the mill WOW players that want everything handed to them for no effort.


Jumpbridges are nice but they are no good for the game. Eve use to feel big massive in scope. Now with jumpbridges and jumpdrives you can get from anywhere to anywhere with ease. Im glad there are changes being made to improve upon this.

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:16:00 - [1867]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


It funny how everyone that whines over this change doesn't seem to remember that alliances existed before JB were ingame


fixed for you NC alt


Says the no SOV owning ****

thanks for proving my point



U mad ?

No .. cause I am sitting in SOV space ...
I see you got double tapped out of brick squad ... u mad?

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:20:00 - [1868]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


Uhmm you got paid 600 billion from rat botters STFU


Your leaders RMT`d all your tech ISK otherwise you could have and would have hired PL




Nah we fight our own battles ... but thats maybe because ivan's bots can't fleet


Now get back to your NPC station


So you are saying the NC never hired PL in the past to bail you out ? loooooooool, get an reality check little alt boy.

See you soon in "my" NPC station NC boy.



Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:20:00 - [1869]
 

Originally by: Manfred Sideous
CCP your on the right track. There are a million games out there people can play if they want it easy. Eve is supposed to be hard for the hardcore gamer. Risk vs Reward needs major addressing in 0.0. I played Everquest from 2000 -2004 the game use to rock. Then they put in easy travel easy access to everything. It slowly killed the game among other things.

0.0 should be cold and brutal but if you work hard it should give benefits that lowsec and empire could only dream of. CCP haters are gonna hate and these whiners are your run of the mill WOW players that want everything handed to them for no effort.


Jumpbridges are nice but they are no good for the game. Eve use to feel big massive in scope. Now with jumpbridges and jumpdrives you can get from anywhere to anywhere with ease. Im glad there are changes being made to improve upon this.



When the members of what is a well known as notorious metagaming ***** corp that takes isk from rattbotters is patting you on the back .. you KNOW you've done goofed CCP

thats like a crackhead saying "GREAT JOB DEA... your efforts to slow the drug trade is going great"

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:22:00 - [1870]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta


Uhmm you got paid 600 billion from rat botters STFU


Your leaders RMT`d all your tech ISK otherwise you could have and would have hired PL




Nah we fight our own battles ... but thats maybe because ivan's bots can't fleet


Now get back to your NPC station


So you are saying the NC never hired PL in the past to bail you out ? loooooooool, get an reality check little alt boy.

See you soon in "my" NPC station NC boy.





Soz butsex but this is my main ... i need not hide behind anything .....

and there will never be YOUR npc station... u mad ?

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:24:00 - [1871]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta

No .. cause I am sitting in SOV space ...
I see you got double tapped out of brick squad ... u mad?


Yeah, it was really a pain to leave them after I petitioned some IEEX guys for botting the **** out of Stain Sad how will I ever recover.


Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:25:00 - [1872]
 

Originally by: Seth Rock
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Dodgy Past
Edited by: Dodgy Past on 11/05/2011 00:39:48
There's a very solid vibe that people 'own space' but don't feel safe in it, otherwise they wouldn't be so upset by this change.

Simply put, if you can't police your space why do you think you deserve it?

Maybe you should start actively policing it, and not just putting up random gangs but put these gargantuan brains that dwarf the thuggish PvP'ers who could never design a jump bridge network to other uses. This is another part of the game and content that other people are creating, so make the most of it and enjoy it.


Says a guys from PL ... dude you guys hide in NPC space and own nothing .... the day you have worthy SOV space you will be flipping your tune cause half of Eve would be dogpiling that ****

Mark my words ... as soon as this war is over CCP will change it back, Ivan can't pay for his fleets of mercs without them.


how cute, the ncdcpethidingbehindanalt is mad...you forget that there once was a time where there were no jump bridges. police your space or stop crying because you want risk free ratting/too lazy to take a gate to the next bridge.

you are pretty clueless if you think this will change after the north burns to the ground.



ahh looky the troll is a trolling ... PL does this alot don't they .. when you KNOW you have been called out for isk kissing a rattbotter you jump to the "its and alt" or "your stupid .. u mad?"

your avoidance is proof of your actions

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:27:00 - [1873]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta

No .. cause I am sitting in SOV space ...
I see you got double tapped out of brick squad ... u mad?


Yeah, it was really a pain to leave them after I petitioned some IEEX guys for botting the **** out of Stain Sad how will I ever recover.




Oh yeah .. well i petitioned CCP for 30 times for bots in RED space ... ya know what ... their still there.

And im pretty sure you got booted because your a douche

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:29:00 - [1874]
 

Maybe Vuk will make SpaceDonkeys full member if you continue to white knight here on the forums, go go go little pet and you will earn Geminate or Vale for your Alliance as gift... ohwai

M1ep1e
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:32:00 - [1875]
 

Originally by: ANGAL 2000
Originally by: Bobbeh
Less than 2 days 1800+ posts

Wonder if CCP will realize this isnt a good idea.

And furthermore that the little PL flies whispering in their ear, arent a true 0.0 entity. They are mercs, and dont need sov, or jbs, or sanctums, or any of the stuff they want to get rid of.

They want alliances that actually take sov not to have the ability to defend it effectively cause then they can just rofl stomp them. PL has no bearings on how 0.0 should change cause they dont hold sov, or maintain a group of pilots in a region, or need JB's, or need anything related to 0.0.

So stop posting and cheering and saying it will help 0.0 cause well you dont live here you just show up when someone pays you.

Your time will come and when it does (either theft or flavour of the month dieing out or no contracts or well everyone gets sick of you) we will be here pointing and laughing at the pathetic losers that remain and think they are cool... oh wait you already think your cool don't you...


Why are the 30% of the thread about the nc crying no more 0.0 after this patch, It is evident 0.0 will still be their, And we had the same thing just over a month ago with the anom nurf and plex boost.

bobbeh you are an idiot you are part of the main problem in eve and yet you think the nc has full control over the game, over 90% of the player base are ether happy to have this change come in to full effect or have no interest in this subject given low/high sec has no jump bridge.

Like many other's happy to support this long over due change great work ccp.


The fact is that PL has several seats on the board, either directly or via proxy. CCP does listen to them because they must.

I'm sure PL doesn't want jump bridges and they dont need them. PL's business model would be more adequately fulfilled by limiting the ability of their "enemeies" to move their forces around so naturally they want JB's nerfed.... Duh! That's a win for PL and the reason why the council thinks it's a good idea. CCP lets themselves be hooked through the nose with this but oh well.... that's the way life goes. You can't acutally expect people to THINK about the decisions they make..... The fact that you, as one of the noobs who hired PL to do your dirty work for you, because you can't do it yourself, thinks that jump bridges are bad is more a symptom of your own inability to wage war than anything else.

Nevertheless, I (yes as an NC member) believe that the changes are good. It will increase drama and create complications, which I think is all good and in holding with the tradition of eve-online as being the most complex mmo on the planet.

The one thing I would ask, however, is that ccp does something to compensate for the reduced ability for fleets to move long distances, as per my previous post.

M-


Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:33:00 - [1876]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Phigmeta

No .. cause I am sitting in SOV space ...
I see you got double tapped out of brick squad ... u mad?


Yeah, it was really a pain to leave them after I petitioned some IEEX guys for botting the **** out of Stain Sad how will I ever recover.




Oh yeah .. well i petitioned CCP for 30 times for bots in RED space ... ya know what ... their still there.

And im pretty sure you got booted because your a douche


You should petition your NC bot buddies who steal your rats, much more fun and you don`t have to travel so far to reach red space, it`s really a pain when you now have to use gates Laughing

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:33:00 - [1877]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou
Maybe Vuk will make SpaceDonkeys full member if you continue to white knight here on the forums, go go go little pet and you will earn Geminate or Vale for your Alliance as gift... ohwai


And you will still be station spinning in NPC space


you sound mad

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2011.05.12 15:35:00 - [1878]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Maybe Vuk will make SpaceDonkeys full member if you continue to white knight here on the forums, go go go little pet and you will earn Geminate or Vale for your Alliance as gift... ohwai


And you will still be station spinning in NPC space


you sound mad


NO U


Seth Rock
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:03:00 - [1879]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
stuff


thanks for confirming that you are infact clueless if you really think NC does not RMT/bot. How do you think your fc's pay their RL bills?

If this "DRF RMT'S!!!!!" gimmick is all you have to hold on to, then you should go ahead and uninstall eve as you've already lost. You're "coalition" is getting a******d everyday and you're too p***y to do anything about it but whine on the forums.

Tze Len
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:20:00 - [1880]
 

As a nullsec logistics player may I just say:

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *Nomad self destruct*

Im sorry but seriously? CCP where the **** are you getting your information from "how things should work" from? Instead of fixxing issues that have been complained about for years you are constantly either developing something irrelevant (Incarna) or breaking something else (this). Seriously do you ever even look at the features and suggestions forums? Or listen to the playerbase who try to contact you, the only players who you seem to listen too are your CSM and even them you tend to just ignore at times (which isnt always a bad thing).

But hey its all already been said so im gonna stop this rant now as it appears there is a JB network that has to be rebuilt.

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:23:00 - [1881]
 

Originally by: Seth Rock
Originally by: Phigmeta
stuff


thanks for confirming that you are infact clueless if you really think NC does not RMT/bot. How do you think your fc's pay their RL bills?

If this "DRF RMT'S!!!!!" gimmick is all you have to hold on to, then you should go ahead and uninstall eve as you've already lost. You're "coalition" is getting a******d everyday and you're too p***y to do anything about it but whine on the forums.


u mad ?

Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:26:00 - [1882]
 

Originally by: Panem EtCircenses
Also, just remove local.

Local is stupid game feature


AMEN!

Gian Bal
Minmatar
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:39:00 - [1883]
 

Originally by: Manfred Sideous
CCP your on the right track. There are a million games out there people can play if they want it easy. Eve is supposed to be hard for the hardcore gamer. Risk vs Reward needs major addressing in 0.0. I played Everquest from 2000 -2004 the game use to rock. Then they put in easy travel easy access to everything. It slowly killed the game among other things.

0.0 should be cold and brutal but if you work hard it should give benefits that lowsec and empire could only dream of. CCP haters are gonna hate and these whiners are your run of the mill WOW players that want everything handed to them for no effort.


Jumpbridges are nice but they are no good for the game. Eve use to feel big massive in scope. Now with jumpbridges and jumpdrives you can get from anywhere to anywhere with ease. Im glad there are changes being made to improve upon this.


This +100000000 - finally someone at CCP woke up and realized this game has gone too far towards hellokitty and needs a big nudge back to the old days.

Can't wait Twisted Evil


fattrader II
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:42:00 - [1884]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Seth Rock
Originally by: Phigmeta
stuff


thanks for confirming that you are infact clueless if you really think NC does not RMT/bot. How do you think your fc's pay their RL bills?

If this "DRF RMT'S!!!!!" gimmick is all you have to hold on to, then you should go ahead and uninstall eve as you've already lost. You're "coalition" is getting a******d everyday and you're too p***y to do anything about it but whine on the forums.


u mad ?



look at your own posts and try to say this with a straight face

Hawkcrest
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:46:00 - [1885]
 

If your seeking to improve interaction in 0,0 I propose eliminating JB's alltogether and implementing Alliance created STARGATES to allow 0,0 alliances to create thier own 0,0 highway to establish thier own network in the territories they posses, like jump bridges must be fueled by the host alliance to allow travel but have the potential of being camped by hostiles withot the protection of POS guns, that can only be anchored in open space, and would have build times similar to POS's, and have these stargates upragdable to include gate guns for the protection of the logistics ships needed to refuel these stargates.

As for game balance issues, the technitum imbalance in the game seems to be the largest imbalance at this time, Given that these moons are limited to 1 region of space. I would propose re-randomizing all moon placement throught all of 0,0 space, and not limiting specific moon based metals to any single region, this would force all alliances equal oportunity and reduce a monopoly by any single large alliance, this would also result in the value of some of the newer alliances in 0,0 to have a competitive edge resulting in the 0,0 wars that CCP is seeking.

davet517
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:47:00 - [1886]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta


When the members of what is a well known as notorious metagaming ***** corp that takes isk from rattbotters is patting you on the back .. you KNOW you've done goofed CCP

thats like a crackhead saying "GREAT JOB DEA... your efforts to slow the drug trade is going great"



You have failed to grasp our diabolical plan. We are morally outraged by botting and RMT, so, we intend to take trillions of ill-gotten isk from every RMT interest in the game while helping them to take over 0.0 in its entirety. Only when 0.0 is devoid of human life and filled with ebil isk-printing tengus will CCP realize the error of their ways and smite them.

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:52:00 - [1887]
 

Originally by: davet517
Originally by: Phigmeta


When the members of what is a well known as notorious metagaming ***** corp that takes isk from rattbotters is patting you on the back .. you KNOW you've done goofed CCP

thats like a crackhead saying "GREAT JOB DEA... your efforts to slow the drug trade is going great"



You have failed to grasp our diabolical plan. We are morally outraged by botting and RMT, so, we intend to take trillions of ill-gotten isk from every RMT interest in the game while helping them to take over 0.0 in its entirety. Only when 0.0 is devoid of human life and filled with ebil isk-printing tengus will CCP realize the error of their ways and smite them.



Wow great plan ..... where do i get in on the action

Shawna Gray
Gallente
Posted - 2011.05.12 16:55:00 - [1888]
 

Originally by: Seth Rock
Originally by: Phigmeta
stuff


thanks for confirming that you are infact clueless if you really think NC does not RMT/bot. How do you think your fc's pay their RL bills?

If this "DRF RMT'S!!!!!" gimmick is all you have to hold on to, then you should go ahead and uninstall eve as you've already lost. You're "coalition" is getting a******d everyday and you're too p***y to do anything about it but whine on the forums.


Afraid of losing your bots?

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.05.12 17:00:00 - [1889]
 

Edited by: Phigmeta on 12/05/2011 17:01:59
Originally by: fattrader II
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Seth Rock
Originally by: Phigmeta
stuff


thanks for confirming that you are infact clueless if you really think NC does not RMT/bot. How do you think your fc's pay their RL bills?

If this "DRF RMT'S!!!!!" gimmick is all you have to hold on to, then you should go ahead and uninstall eve as you've already lost. You're "coalition" is getting a******d everyday and you're too p***y to do anything about it but whine on the forums.


u mad ?



look at your own posts and try to say this with a straight face



Hell yes i am mad ... and i am done with this game ... I AM FINISHED

for the next 3 days I will be liquidating my assets and giving away all my isk. If you send me any amount of isk I will double it and send it back to you. Hurry as this offer will expire when i am out of isk.

Oh and Hydra ... when you guys gonna stop reloading and realize ... your shooting blanks.

On a side-note I want to be clear that i have no ill will for my Russian bros in game or IRL. I also do realize that NC has thier share of RMT'ers its a fact that actually irritates the hell out of me.

We could go on and on about whos mad and who is a RMT but that not to point of this thread.. the point is that CCP needs to FIX THE BUGS and not try to play god in the SANDBOX.

Will the NC and other large Col. Survive the stupidity of CCP .. yeah sure.

but will null sec? will eve itself? from this change yes... but look what their changes have done to lowsec.

Is Null Sec next?

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.05.12 17:04:00 - [1890]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Imigo Montoya
The NC has repelled invasion after invasion over the years...

Since all that valiant defensive work has been based exclusively on the teleportion system (bridges) and raw numbers, the outpouring of frustration is understandable.

Hate to break it to you, but the NC has existed longer than I've been playing, and I remember carriers, moms, titans, and bridges being introduced to the game. So, no, the NC hasn't held its space because of any of those things being introduced.


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