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Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.05.07 16:40:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Feligast
Why the hell were you mining in hi sec in the first place?


He had 6 Arbalest siege launchers in hold so he wasn't. he was transporting an Alt fit. What I'm wondering is why all of a sudden vet chars are losing assets to thier standings. Was there a run on EBay EVE chars?


Originally by: original post

2011.05.07 07:45:00

Victim: Reaver Glitterstim
Corp: Legio Geminatus
Alliance: Gentlemen's Agreement
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Retriever
System: Tekaima
Security: 0.6
Damage Taken: 1919

Involved parties:

Name: Caldari Sentry Gun I / CONCORD (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 1919

Destroyed items:

Kernite Mining Crystal II (Cargo)
Hammerhead I (Drone Bay)
Modulated Strip Miner II
Hornet I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)

Dropped items:

Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay)
Kernite Mining Crystal II (Cargo)
Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II (Cargo)
Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2
Modulated Strip Miner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II, Qty: 2


I don't see any launchers in there, do you?

Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.05.07 16:49:00 - [32]
 

While your GCC may have been up, as Akita said, your corp aggression might not have been. That resets every time you come within site of whoever you agrressed sentries (in this case, when you went to dock, the station guns would have reset that timer).

In CONCORD space, the faction police are CONCORD, therefor CONCORDOKKEN.

Invisible aggression timers (assuming you didn't ignore the yellow one) have been around forever and are quite annoying. Good that you petitioned it, but in the future, to save yourself some grief, spend an extra 5 minutes or so in the station after your GCC expires just for good measure. Cool

Shirley Serious
Amarr
The Khanid Sisters of Athra
Posted - 2011.05.07 17:10:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Usagi Tsukino
While your GCC may have been up, as Akita said, your corp aggression might not have been. That resets every time you come within site of whoever you agrressed sentries (in this case, when you went to dock, the station guns would have reset that timer).

In CONCORD space, the faction police are CONCORD, therefor CONCORDOKKEN.

Invisible aggression timers (assuming you didn't ignore the yellow one) have been around forever and are quite annoying. Good that you petitioned it, but in the future, to save yourself some grief, spend an extra 5 minutes or so in the station after your GCC expires just for good measure. Cool


He said he logged off, for several hours though? ugh

Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.05.07 17:38:00 - [34]
 

Sentry guns only engage when you are GCC. Faction standings attacks are entirely faction police executed. However, in CONCORD space that probably means CONCORD each and every time, which also means sentry guns.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.05.07 18:03:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: Usagi Tsukino
While your GCC may have been up, as Akita said, your corp aggression might not have been. That resets every time you come within site of whoever you agrressed sentries (in this case, when you went to dock, the station guns would have reset that timer).

In CONCORD space, the faction police are CONCORD, therefor CONCORDOKKEN.

Invisible aggression timers (assuming you didn't ignore the yellow one) have been around forever and are quite annoying. Good that you petitioned it, but in the future, to save yourself some grief, spend an extra 5 minutes or so in the station after your GCC expires just for good measure. Cool


He said he logged off, for several hours though? ugh


Logging out doesn't mean anything. You can't just logout, wait out the timer and then log back in. You have to wait the timers out while staying logged on the whole time and at the same time avoid all situations that could reset the timer like jumping or docking. I'm not sure if logging off resets the timer too or just stops it though.

Reaver Glitterstim
Legio Geminatus
Posted - 2011.05.07 21:48:00 - [36]
 

Logging out doesn't mean anything. You can't just logout, wait out the timer and then log back in. You have to wait the timers out while staying logged on the whole time and at the same time avoid all situations that could reset the timer like jumping or docking. I'm not sure if logging off resets the timer too or just stops it though.


If this is the case, that could explain what happened. However, I still don't understand why I wouldn't be alerted to my still having a GCC or corp aggression.

And here's a list of trolls:
Teryl Manara
Ioci
Usagi Tsukino

Seriously guys...? Seriously?

Th0rG0d
Terminal Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Posted - 2011.05.07 22:54:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue


Logging out doesn't mean anything. You can't just logout, wait out the timer and then log back in. You have to wait the timers out while staying logged on the whole time and at the same time avoid all situations that could reset the timer like jumping or docking. I'm not sure if logging off resets the timer too or just stops it though.


Wait. In a game that lives and breathes "real time" timers and the like, you're saying that logging off suspends certain timers? Neutral

Can we get Dev confirmation on this? This seems very unlikely.


Shino Tu
Caldari
Posted - 2011.05.07 23:45:00 - [38]
 



I think your Karma ran over your dogma....

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2011.05.08 00:04:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Le Skunk on 08/05/2011 00:04:49
Timers are bugged

CCP sysiphus looked into it once and thought he had fixed it but they are still here. At least he tried though.

Go complain to the CSM and wait 3 years with nothing happening.

Hidden timers confimed

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2011.05.08 00:23:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Val'Dore
Sentry guns only engage when you are GCC.


Or if you agress the corp - the station, sentry guns, any npc haulers that undocked from it etc.

Having read the thread i guess one of two occaissional bugs happened - the first that the aggro to the station didn't reset while you were offline and the station still saw you as a target. The second that the guy you was aggro'd by someone else in the 15 minutes before you undocked and you were incorrectly implicated. Both should be petitioned.

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2011.05.08 00:30:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Reaver Glitterstim
Logging out doesn't mean anything. You can't just logout, wait out the timer and then log back in. You have to wait the timers out while staying logged on the whole time and at the same time avoid all situations that could reset the timer like jumping or docking. I'm not sure if logging off resets the timer too or just stops it though.


If this is the case, that could explain what happened.


Its not the case, logging resets the timer but doesn't suspend it. It may be possible to keep resetting the timer by relogging every 10 mins for the 3 hours (i don't think it is) by why would you do that? You do not need to wait out the timer before logging.


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