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Kearl
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.17 07:12:00 - [91]
 

Good change.. if the space you have blows now move somewhere better.

Therroxx
Posted - 2011.04.17 07:34:00 - [92]
 

Unerf it!, ALL Null Sec is dangerous and should be equally profitable!

wellletssee
Posted - 2011.04.17 08:14:00 - [93]
 

make outpost stations destructable so the carebears have to fight for their stuffs

Talas Dir
Minmatar
The Unknown Bar and Pub
Posted - 2011.04.17 09:25:00 - [94]
 

agreed, this is the worst change that has happened all year. the point of eve is to have billions of isk and be successful, but that's impossible with the sanctum nerf. 0.0 was fine as it was, the sanctums need to return so that people can continue to make lots of isk to fill the huge fleet amount demands.

unnerf it.

Majid Al'Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.17 10:06:00 - [95]
 

Think I need a bigger bucket to collect the nullbear tears.

KANE ORI0N
Posted - 2011.04.17 11:26:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: KANE ORI0N on 17/04/2011 11:27:05
People who say keep the nerf make your own forumn this is a precise forumn

btw if we stop making money in Null sec industry will go down which will mean more high sec prices for you hulks won't be 200 mil anymore they'll be 500 again. just expect a rise in prices

Thanael
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.17 11:39:00 - [97]
 

Unnerf it, the change was incredibly short-sighted, ******ed and just horribly bad.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.17 13:02:00 - [98]
 

nerf it moar

rly these ppl cant even check to support their topic ,they are clearly unable to decide what is good for them or not--> nerf it more pls

elkillo
Posted - 2011.04.17 13:42:00 - [99]
 

Unerf it

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.04.17 15:30:00 - [100]
 

The nerf was a good start, while you are at it, remove level 4 missions from empire. Nobody should be able to farm that kind of ISK hiding under CONCORD's skirt.

Kai lun
Posted - 2011.04.17 16:16:00 - [101]
 

Unerf it

Diego Jinsei
Minmatar
Viper Nine
Posted - 2011.04.17 18:25:00 - [102]
 

Unnerf it

Spazz21
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:29:00 - [103]
 

Unerf it please

Mark Wolf
Deorbit Burners
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:41:00 - [104]
 

Unerf it! If an alliance can raise the isk involved, and logistically manage to get i-hubs and upgrades out here, then they damn well deserve a decent reward from doing so. It still doesnt make your space safe at the end of the day, usually more attractive to the enemy in most cases.

FishermansFriend
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:46:00 - [105]
 

You people disagreeing with this are stupid. It's like if CCP decided your mission tengu's were way to good at lvl 4's and just removed them from the game without compensation. People are ****ed that their upgrades are worthless now. Having to haul them in a freighter is a MAJOR PITA and all that work is lost with this nerf.
Also, without being able to farm sanctums the potential isk/hr for 0.0 drops significantly. Sure theres still exploration, PI, mining, belt ratting, all that crap but none of it compares to having unlimited personal missions in the complete safety of highsec (suicide gankers blablabla fly a cheaper ship). It shouldnt be mandatory for everyone in 0.0 to either jump clone to highsec or have an alt that can run lvl 4's in highsec.

Either

A. Move lvl 4's to null and low quality lvl 4's to lowsec. Highsec gets 1's and 2's, lowsec gets 3's and low quality 4's, 0.0 gets 4's and 5's. This isnt "forcing" anyone to nullsec, you simply just have to run crappier missions or move to lower security space, following the risk/reward balance EVE is based on. Also nerf un-probeable tengu's buy raising the probing strength not nerfing sensor strength.

B. Keep all the carebears happy and undo the changes. Sure its just as stupid as it was before but whatev's it kinda worked.


Now CCP, if you want to break up coalitions then get rid of jump bridges and presto, no more 1500 man fleet fights, more of a trickle of ships comming in to defend an area. It forces allainces to focus forces and allows a lot of crappy space to be open and free for potential small allainces to take to and grow in.

BOOM, you guys should hire me and all your problems would be gone with this game. Lets let the carebear whining commence about how unfair this is and threats about how many people will leave EVE if you nerf highsec. How about you try out 0.0 before knocking it. PvP isnt much different than PvE, you just click on red squares. Not that many people will quite eve and the people that will quite were not going to stick with the game anyway.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:48:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: FishermansFriend
You people disagreeing with this are stupid. It's like if CCP decided your mission tengu's were way to good at lvl 4's and just removed them from the game without compensation. People are ****ed that their upgrades are worthless now. Having to haul them in a freighter is a MAJOR PITA and all that work is lost with this nerf.
Also, without being able to farm sanctums the potential isk/hr for 0.0 drops significantly. Sure theres still exploration, PI, mining, belt ratting, all that crap but none of it compares to having unlimited personal missions in the complete safety of highsec (suicide gankers blablabla fly a cheaper ship). It shouldnt be mandatory for everyone in 0.0 to either jump clone to highsec or have an alt that can run lvl 4's in highsec.

Either

A. Move lvl 4's to null and low quality lvl 4's to lowsec. Highsec gets 1's and 2's, lowsec gets 3's and low quality 4's, 0.0 gets 4's and 5's. This isnt "forcing" anyone to nullsec, you simply just have to run crappier missions or move to lower security space, following the risk/reward balance EVE is based on. Also nerf un-probeable tengu's buy raising the probing strength not nerfing sensor strength.

B. Keep all the carebears happy and undo the changes. Sure its just as stupid as it was before but whatev's it kinda worked.


Now CCP, if you want to break up coalitions then get rid of jump bridges and presto, no more 1500 man fleet fights, more of a trickle of ships comming in to defend an area. It forces allainces to focus forces and allows a lot of crappy space to be open and free for potential small allainces to take to and grow in.

BOOM, you guys should hire me and all your problems would be gone with this game. Lets let the carebear whining commence about how unfair this is and threats about how many people will leave EVE if you nerf highsec. How about you try out 0.0 before knocking it. PvP isnt much different than PvE, you just click on red squares. Not that many people will quite eve and the people that will quite were not going to stick with the game anyway.

ccp did this with my whole caldari race... :( poor caldari only left is the noobish drake and falcon :(
now everybody fliest op matar:=

FishermansFriend
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:23:00 - [107]
 

Tengu, Falcon, Drake, Raven, Gila, Crow, Hawk, Caracal (sometimes), Kitsune,

ok maybe you got a point but

Gallente: Ishtar, dominix, taranis, Myrm(maybe), Proteus.

Caldari is pretty sweet in that they are rather versitle. Most of their ships can both active and passive tank, can be nanoed and missiles always hit. Not to mention the ungodly range of ECM and heavy missiles.

Naomi Knight
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:38:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: FishermansFriend
Tengu, Falcon, Drake, Raven, Gila, Crow, Hawk, Caracal (sometimes), Kitsune,

ok maybe you got a point but

Gallente: Ishtar, dominix, taranis, Myrm(maybe), Proteus.

Caldari is pretty sweet in that they are rather versitle. Most of their ships can both active and passive tank, can be nanoed and missiles always hit. Not to mention the ungodly range of ECM and heavy missiles.


rly crow?? rly?? caracal omg ??? gila ?:O , hawk no no more jokes pls , kitsune? yeah EA-s are crap,
tengu cool another pve ship ... oh and the raven is there anybody still using that ****?:O

Xune
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.18 14:57:00 - [109]
 

Unerf it !

Kiev Duran
Caldari
Retribution. Inc.
Strategic Operations Brigade
Posted - 2011.04.18 15:03:00 - [110]
 

Unnerf it

Rika Jones
Amarr
Warp Storm Industries
Posted - 2011.04.18 15:24:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Mark Wolf
Unerf it! If an alliance can raise the isk involved, and logistically manage to get i-hubs and upgrades out here, then they damn well deserve a decent reward from doing so. It still doesnt make your space safe at the end of the day, usually more attractive to the enemy in most cases.


You mean the iHub, that must be destroyed (along with any upgrades in it) before they can take the system? Yeah, sure.. attractive.

One question for posterity: Is there any physical pain involved in being as wrong as you are in the statement I quoted above?

Germanicus Xenophon
Gallente
Multiplex Gaming
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.18 15:50:00 - [112]
 

I will have to concur with the others. I also request to un-nerf the current system in place.

Alb Blastardo
Multiplex Gaming
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.18 16:54:00 - [113]
 

For the love of null (and hate of missioning) - unerf it Mad

Mahasil Regyri
Posted - 2011.04.18 17:02:00 - [114]
 

Bad change. Instead of bringing more people to nulsec this is driving many of them back to empire.

I don't know that a complete reversal is needed, I like the basic premise that some space is better than others, but they've taken way too much out of the lower end. It really is a pay-cut to move from SOLO MISSION RUNNING to move out to nulsec and join in an alliance.

As has been mentioned before, this change doesn't really have much effect on the power bloc alliances and completely screws the little guy.

UN-NERF and try again.

Mctana
Caldari
Dead's Prostitutes
White Angels.
Posted - 2011.04.18 17:56:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Mahasil Regyri
Bad change. Instead of bringing more people to nulsec this is driving many of them back to empire.



I was ambviolent towards the change. But, seeing the results, it's obvious this was a ****-up. Solar systems are being abandoned and I've watched the military indexes on adjoining systems go from 5 to 1 or 0. It's a ghost town out there now and the thrill of being in nullsec is wearing off... rare pvp... and then nerfed isks when you do something else out of boredom.

For pepople who invested in carriers, losing the sanctums is a huge hit in their isk/hour.

Gil Warden
Gallente
Priory of Empire
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.18 19:20:00 - [116]
 

It needs to be unnerfed.

TommyMc88
Minmatar
Native Freshfood

Posted - 2011.04.18 19:20:00 - [117]
 

Unerf.

Poor ideas executed even more poorly. -1 CCP.

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.04.18 19:22:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Mctana
Originally by: Mahasil Regyri
Bad change. Instead of bringing more people to nulsec this is driving many of them back to empire.



I was ambviolent towards the change. But, seeing the results, it's obvious this was a ****-up. Solar systems are being abandoned and I've watched the military indexes on adjoining systems go from 5 to 1 or 0. It's a ghost town out there now and the thrill of being in nullsec is wearing off... rare pvp... and then nerfed isks when you do something else out of boredom.

For pepople who invested in carriers, losing the sanctums is a huge hit in their isk/hour.


What he said. Big mistake CCP...but...I think thats already been said about a million times before you went ahead and did it anyway. Question is...have you learned your lesson yet?

Domina Santa
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.18 19:22:00 - [119]
 

All the risk, and no more reward

Nul sec is void Crying or Very sad

UNNERF!

LeBeau
Gallente
QuanNet Evolved
Posted - 2011.04.18 19:58:00 - [120]
 

Unerf it


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