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Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.16 07:54:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Blind Brother on 20/04/2011 07:12:19
(The edit to this post was because I have realized that I chose a poor title for this thread. The new title, I believe, better reflects the intended message and hope of this thread. I've kept the old title [Beyond Artificial Warmongering...] in the title so as not to cause any butt pain to those who would feel hurt by it's removal. Also, I kind of like the sound of "A day of peace to send a message beyond artificial warmongering". I feel it's more clear.)

From a speech by JFK, during his presidency, as the space-race was just gearing up. I like to think that we can all take a little bit from this:

"For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon(s) and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding."

Sometimes I wonder how amazing and progressive EVE would be if everyone was blue to everyone else, if not just for a day (to prove a point), just so we could all "o/" at each other and fly by, without worrying what's on the other side of gate (or cyno-beacon), damning language barriers and past discretions, to simply exist in the same world together, without conflict, malice, or aggression toward each other.

I would be all for staging a day of peace in EVE if only to show the world that if this many thousands of people from so many different countries and walks of life can take their fingers off the triggers for a day, there is indeed hope for humanity in the years to come.

Lord Zim
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.16 11:56:00 - [2]
 

A shoot blues day? Awesome.

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.04.16 12:02:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Blind Brother
"For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon(s) and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding."


The thing is that if we (maybe) don't send weapons to space is not because we are good people, it's just because we need them to shoot ourselves on earth.

So many millions years of evolution to be that stupid... we are not ready to make friends any where in that huge unquantifiable space.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.04.16 17:41:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lord Zim
A shoot blues day? Awesome.


Quoted for great truth.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.16 18:12:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Lord Zim
A shoot blues day? Awesome.


Last time I checked, Goons already shoot blues.

It's really sad this is all a community of thousands can muster, 3 comments, none of which will even consider peace as an option for humanity.

In a world constantly in conflict with itself, where people are dying daily for no good reason, it's sad that this is the response to a call for peace.

All I see here is fear and bigotry. And it makes me sick.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2011.04.16 20:54:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Blind Brother

It's really sad this is all a community of thousands can muster, 3 comments, none of which will even consider peace as an option for humanity.

In a world constantly in conflict with itself, where people are dying daily for no good reason, it's sad that this is the response to a call for peace.

All I see here is fear and bigotry. And it makes me sick.


Someone needs to to reestablish the boundaries between real life and the game world.

But... I'll humor you by posing a question:
How many times in our history as a species has a "lasting" peace been made when limited resources and/or religion/ideology has been at stake?

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.17 06:38:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Blind Brother on 20/04/2011 07:15:34
"How many times in our history as a species has a "lasting" peace been made when limited resources and/or religion/ideology has been at stake?"

I see where you're coming from, pretty much never. But I also like to think that we're capable of progressing beyond that.

Now I have some questions for you:
When was the last time in history that we had the ability to communicate almost instantly with any other person in the world?
When was the last time in history that we, as a species, could look at someone a little different from us but know that they are not so different from us, that they feel the same things, desire the same securities and tolerance, fear the same injustices?
When was the last time we had the ability to move massive amounts of resources from one corner of the globe to another?
When was the last time language barriers were as simple to breakdown as copy-pasting a line of text into a box and hitting "translate"?
How many times in our history have we tried war only to realize that what we gain often comes at a much greater cost?
And how many times have we actually truly tried to maintain a lasting peace?

Einstein: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." We keep making war thinking it will lead to peace, and I know that Aristotle said "we make war so that we may live in peace", and there are a number of others I could quote who insist that peace may only come from conflict, but all of those who I would quote come from a time when the concept of "an eye for an eye" was revolutionary and progressive.

I realize that this is a game, but I'm wondering why we can't show the world that we know that and try to make a difference despite it. To pull our heads out of the game for a day to make a statement to the world that despite all our different walks of life we can band together, no matter our country of origin or birth language or faith.

If 1 woman screaming **** in Libya can be the final push to incite an entire nation into rebellion, think what tens of thousands of people across the world can do by making a show of peace.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.17 06:43:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: ShahFluffers

Someone needs to to reestablish the boundaries between real life and the game world.



Or maybe more people who play this game need to realize what world they actually live in - and do whatever they can to make it a place where future generations can coexist.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2011.04.17 19:52:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: ShahFluffers on 17/04/2011 21:04:40
Edited by: ShahFluffers on 17/04/2011 20:01:24
Originally by: Blind Brother

I see where you're coming from, pretty much never. But I also like to think that we're capable of progressing beyond that.



It's a possibility, I'll give you that. However, it's also equally possibile that we'll wipe ourselves out.

Originally by: Blind Brother

Now I have some questions for you:
When was the last time in history that we had the ability to communicate almost instantly with any other person in the world?
When was the last time in history that we, as a species, could look at someone a little different from us but know that they are not so different from us, that they feel the same things, desire the same securities and tolerance, fear the same injustices?
When was the last time we had the ability to move massive amounts of resources from one corner of the globe to another?
When was the last time language barriers were as simple to breakdown as copy-pasting a line of text into a box and hitting "translate"?
How many times in our history have we tried war only to realize that what we gain often comes at a much greater cost?
And how many times have we actually truly tried to maintain a lasting peace?



Irrelevant. None of this has to do with HUMAN NATURE (which, no matter how hard we try to suppress or get around, is still there).

- Right now, we have the ability to communicate with [almost] every person around the world. Hell, we've had this ability for almost a century (ex. mail, telegraph, direct phone lines, etc.). All this technology has allowed nations and groups to form up logistical efforts faster and more effectively (though, no group has made more use of this than the military).
- Never. Racism, bigotry, slavery/human trafficking, religious fearmongering/"superiority" are all facts of life today (as they have been for centuries) and I don't see any of them going away so long as there is profit and "weak-minded" zealots to fuel them.
- Since the late 1800s we've been able to move large amounts of resources (both for need and want). Today, in the early 21st century, we've merely 'perfected' this practice. And yet we still have global famines, poverty, and starvation.
- Until recently (last 10 years or so) few of the "common man" could translate and read/hear what the "common man" of another language were saying. Yes, with the advent of translation technology we can now understand each other better than ever. However... the results (which can be quite clearly seen on the EvE boards here between us, the Chinese, and Russians) can best be described as a "flame war" with very little civility on who is dumber/more brainwashed/smarter.

Originally by: Blind Brother

I realize that this is a game, but I'm wondering why we can't show the world that we know that and try to make a difference despite it.



Originally by: Blind Brother

Or maybe more people who play this game need to realize what world they actually live in - and do whatever they can to make it a place where future generations can coexist.



Because a 'peaceful' game is a 'static' game and thus not real interesting in the long run (not the mention that 'peace' would almost certainly crash the EvE economy which DEPENDS on ships and mods getting blown up).

Originally by: Blind Brother

If 1 woman screaming **** in Libya can be the final push to incite an entire nation into rebellion, think what tens of thousands of people across the world can do by making a show of peace.



How does Libya have ANYTHING to do with EvE????? Confused


Anyways... my points are this:
EvE is a game based upon the darker elements of humankind... elements that we are all quite familiar with (ex. greed, nationalism, oligarchies, despots, piracy, etc). The game takes these dark elements and creates it's own reality by saying "what if."
More than that... we are 'immortal.' We cannot die. And without that "final of final" restraints there is no reason to hold ourselves back from conflict.

Blastfizzle
THE R0NIN
Posted - 2011.04.17 20:40:00 - [10]
 

Well... I'm immortal.
And peace is bad for business.

That is one more reason than I need.

There is also fact that blowing other ships is quite a show. And the crew... well, human life is so cheap that one has to wonder if it is even worth remembering.

Maplestone
Myth and Peace Lords
Posted - 2011.04.18 01:09:00 - [11]
 

I would like to see a vision of highsec that revolved around reducing conflict between empires rather than amplifying it.



Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.18 03:23:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Blind Brother
From a speech by JFK, during his presidency, as the space-race was just gearing up. I like to think that we can all take a little bit from this:

"For the eyes of the world now look into space, to the moon(s) and to the planets beyond, and we have vowed that we shall not see it governed by a hostile flag of conquest, but by a banner of freedom and peace. We have vowed that we shall not see space filled with weapons of mass destruction, but with instruments of knowledge and understanding."

Sometimes I wonder how amazing and progressive EVE would be if everyone was blue to everyone else, if not just for a day (to prove a point), just so we could all "o/" at each other and fly by, without worrying what's on the other side of gate (or cyno-beacon), damning language barriers and past discretions, to simply exist in the same world together, without conflict, malice, or aggression toward each other.

I would be all for staging a day of peace in EVE if only to show the world that if this many thousands of people from so many different countries and walks of life can take their fingers off the triggers for a day, there is indeed hope for humanity in the years to come.


It's people like you who give peace a bad name.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.18 07:16:00 - [13]
 

"It's a possibility, I'll give you that. However, it's also equally possibile that we'll wipe ourselves out."
- Yea, "it's equally possible" so why bank on the outcome where everyone dies? If there is no hope, then why bother? 'Kill them before they kill me, even if that's not their intension.' This is the kind of thought process that gets us into conflicts in the first place. Why change anything when we're so efficient at war? We're better at fighting than we are at peace, so why not keep killing each other until nothing is left but the roaches? Then they'll be no question, peace will be the only choice because there will be no one left to make war.

"Irrelevant. None of this has to do with HUMAN NATURE (which, no matter how hard we try to suppress or get around, is still there)."
- Hmm, human nature. This is a funny little joke which people like to fall back on to make excuses. I'm sorry to have to shatter your glass house but humans aren't natural. Yes, we do a lot of the things which other animals do, but we also have reason, awareness beyond the self, a concept of time and long term effects, as well as the ability to feel empathy beyond our own species, let alone our own families or tribes or communities. We are freaks of nature. We are not 'natural'. We're something more, it just requires us to realize that so that we can move beyond making excuses and start making a difference. And if you don't believe that then you should just dig a hole and crawl into it.

"Right now, we have the ability to communicate with [almost] every person around the world. Hell, we've had this ability for almost a century (ex. mail, telegraph, direct phone lines, etc.). All this technology has allowed nations and groups to form up logistical efforts faster and more effectively (though, no group has made more use of this than the military)."
- Because the military is the only group which receives adequate funding to execute these maneuvers on a regular basis. Imagine if disaster relief groups had billions of dollars and thousands of fully trained operatives at their expense.

"Never. Racism, bigotry, slavery/human trafficking, religious fearmongering/"superiority" are all facts of life today (as they have been for centuries) and I don't see any of them going away so long as there is profit and "weak-minded" zealots to fuel them."
- But they're less acceptable than they were, and that's the point. People don't do these things in the open anymore. More and more they're being pushed to the shadows because that's the only place that they can exist. Will they ever fully disappear from human society, probably not. But would you rather be born (or have your child be born) into a world where slavery/fear mongering/exploiting others is a rule, or rather an exception which is hunted down and abolished? 'Weak-minded zealots' include people who cannot see beyond the shortcomings of the world and accept them rather than fight against them.

"Since the late 1800s we've been able to move large amounts of resources (both for need and want). Today, in the early 21st century, we've merely 'perfected' this practice. And yet we still have global famines, poverty, and starvation."
- "global famines, poverty, and starvation" are the result of those in power (including nations with technological solutions) choosing not to act, or worse, not acting to maintain their 'superiority' over those who are not able to realistically do anything about it.
It wasn't until the 1920's that cargo planes outside the realm of posted mail were developed and commisioned. By shipping standards, the largest oceanic cargo ships can carry approximately 14,000 TEU, which at the maximum weight per TEU would translate to 500 million pounds (or 250,000 tons) of cargo (these are very conservative numbers). Modern cargo planes have a capacity of over 100 tons and a range of over 6400 kilometers. Imagine if it was all food and supplies rather than weapons and pessimism.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.18 07:35:00 - [14]
 

- Until recently (last 10 years or so) few of the "common man" could translate and read/hear what the "common man" of another language were saying. Yes, with the advent of translation technology we can now understand each other better than ever. However... the results can best be described as a "flame war" with very little civility on who is dumber/more brainwashed/smarter."
- And how much of this is because we won't accept another culture's differences? And how much of this is because we think that just because one Chinese man did something horrible to his wife, like carving words into her face and rubbing ashes into it, the entire country is 'brainwashed' and 'backwards'? When the Chinese hear about a husband and wife in Arkansas who regularly stuffed their son in a box for hours a day, or days at a time, what do you think their immediate thoughts about America turn towards? The hardest part, which most people seem to have difficulty understanding, is that these situations are the exception, not the rule.

"Because a 'peaceful' game is a 'static' game and thus not real interesting in the long run (not the mention that 'peace' would almost certainly crash the EvE economy which DEPENDS on ships and mods getting blown up)."
- You talk about the "long run" and a "static" game. I'm asking for 24 hours, not a week, a month, or a year. If you couldn't handle it, then don't log it for a day. Que up a 24 hour+ skill and go to a coffee shop and complain to some other patrons about how some guy is ruining your video game playing for a day by asking people not to blow each other up for 24 hours in an attempt to show the world that global peace is an option rather than a pipe-dream.

Also, who cares about the "EVE economy"? Firstly, it's a game. Secondly, I'm sure the "EVE economy" would recover. Thirdly, CCP already does stuff to manipulate the "EVE economy" so it's not like it has some natural course to run which 24 hours of not blowing each other up is going to upset beyond repair.

"Oh no, I only sold one Tempest today rather than my normal two! What ever will I do without the extra 90mil fake digital money that couldn't buy a loaf of bread if I was starving!?"

And also realize that if we spend 24 hours with an understanding that we're not blowing each other up, we'd have 24 hours of uninhibited isk making opportunities which would almost certainly result in more people being able to afford to stimulate the "EVE economy" in the days that followed.

Mostly it just sounds like you're afraid people will like being at peace and push for more of it.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.18 08:02:00 - [15]
 

"More than that... we are 'immortal.' We cannot die. And without that "final of final" restraints there is no reason to hold ourselves back from conflict."
- Yes, that's quite true of the video game, but I was hoping to make a point beyond the video game realm. Have you ever had an in-game friend die in real life? Last time I check, and I'm quoting FPS Dave on this one, "There is no respawn in RL.".

"How does Libya have ANYTHING to do with EvE?????"
- Excessive question marks aside, Libya has nothing to do with EVE. As much as I hate repeating myself, I was trying to make a point that if one woman can be the final straw which moves an entire nation into revolt, imagine the message that tens of thousands of people across the globe would send to the rest of the world. Especially coming from the 'video-game playing community' which is, at times, blamed for 'desensitizing' and 'promoting violence' because players 'cannot separate the real world from the fantasy that is a video game'.

"It's people like you who give peace a bad name."
- And what have you done? If you're so enlightened, maybe you can offer more than an off-hand remark that holds no weight. And last time I checked, the idea of peace was never a bad thing, only a fantasy, which is what we all immerse ourselves in every time we log into a video game.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.04.18 09:51:00 - [16]
 

Your just a joke who thinks he knows what peace is.

I'll tell you what peace is.... peace is mutually assured destruction.

Peace is a lie... a total fabrication of your mind.

Your definition of peace is where you don't get shot at and make all the isk you want.
My Definition of Peace is literally ending your career in-game so I don't have to hear you whine when someone suicide ganks you.

Peace is a subjective stuffed toy... it gets tossed... ran over.. changed... stitched... and torn up again... not to mention set on fire.

The goal in my book is cooperation... I cooperate with you to take down my foes.
I cooperate with my foe to take down a common foe.


And along the way we get some laughs... have some fun... because this is just a game.

So please... take your carebear peacemaking excuse of a pipe.. and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Because this is EVE online... and we all aim to misbehave. (You can thank Cap'n Reynolds from Firefly for that one)
Can I Get an amen folks?

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.19 10:09:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Blind Brother on 19/04/2011 10:23:05
Edited by: Blind Brother on 19/04/2011 10:14:35
"Your just a joke who thinks he knows what peace is."
- First off, it's "You're", or "you are", please don't try to use words that are beyond you when you obviously stopped paying attention in school quite early (early enough that the proper use of contractions obviously befuddles you). Beyond your inability to properly express your opinions in English, peace is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Perhaps your ideal of peace is one where every human being is dead. I think that peace is something obtainable where all people of all walks of life coexist and do away with ideas that suggest that other people are less deserving of life than others.

"I'll tell you what peace is.... peace is mutually assured destruction."
- Has anyone ever expressed the feeling that you should have been born sometime in the dark ages? If they didn't, they probably thought it and were just civilized enough to hope you never procreated.

"Peace is a lie... a total fabrication of your mind."
- Maybe so, but I'd rather be the "fool" who believes in peace than the bigot who fears so much of the world that the only way to approach it is through violence.

"Your definition of peace is where you don't get shot at and make all the isk you want. My Definition of Peace is literally ending your career in-game so I don't have to hear you whine when someone suicide ganks you."
- My hope was that a few thousand people could make a show for global peace. My definition of peace has never been expressed. All I've asked for is an opportunity to show the world that peace is an option. Also, 'all the isk I want' is never more than enough to buy a few modules a month and a few frigates to leave in stations I don't plan to revisit for at least a few weeks. Suicide gank my Velators all you want.

"Peace is a subjective stuffed toy... it gets tossed... ran over.. changed... stitched... and torn up again... not to mention set on fire."
- Peace is defined as the absence of hostility, hostility being just about everything you described. Being "tossed", "ran over", "changed", "stitched", "torn up again", and being "set on fire" - these are all hostile actions when they're forced upon another person. Peace is the absence of these things.

"The goal in my book is cooperation... I cooperate with you to take down my foes. I cooperate with my foe to take down a common foe."
- And what else is peace other than the cooperation of all beings? Who will you shoot when all your "foes" have been vanquished or assimilated? Even if...no...especially if you're the greatest maker of war, one who eventually conquered all else, who would you make war with? The only option left would be yourself. The only challenge would be ceasing to make war so that you, to put it in terms you might understand, conquered your self.

"And along the way we get some laughs. have some fun. because this is just a game. So please, take your carebear peacemaking excuse of a pipe and shove it where the sun don't shine."
- This is just a game, which is why I don't see the harm in 24 hours of in-game universal peace. As far as the pipe comment goes, I took my pipe and shoved it where the sun doesn't shine. I haven't touched my pipe in weeks, it's still sitting in the dark corner of a drawer I soon hope to forget so that I never have to subject myself to the desensitized nature which the pipe creates. Maybe you should do the same.

"Because this is EVE online... and we all aim to misbehave. (You can thank Cap'n Reynolds from Firefly for that one)"
- Captain Reynolds, a fictional character, said that when he was determined to risk his life to bring a truth to the people of the universe he lived in to correct a wrong which had been perpetuated by those in power. Also, it was from Serenity, not Firefly (the difference being that one was a TV series and the other was a movie).

"Can I get an amen folks?"
- I see no amens.

Hutz Megh
Posted - 2011.04.19 11:19:00 - [18]
 

"It is much easier to be critical than correct." - Benjamin Disraeli

I think we can see who is being critical and who is correct. There's nothing wrong with striving for peace.

Sema Min
Posted - 2011.04.19 12:23:00 - [19]
 

This is in entirely the wrong forum, but the world is slowly meandering towards real, lasting peace.
And I think in no small part, the internet is causing that.
The barriers between people of different nations are breaking down - other barriers like religion and culture will take more time.

As for the idea of a peace day in EVE? It would be kinda neat, but I don't think it would have any meaning if it were Dev enforced.

BattleSister Oryx
Posted - 2011.04.19 22:52:00 - [20]
 

the sentiment behind this post is dumb, confict is what drives this game. If everyone were friends, it would die pretty quickly

Blitskin
Posted - 2011.04.20 06:30:00 - [21]
 

I think everyone missed the point: to see if in the similated world, such as EVE, peace can be made for 24 hours by mutual agreement of thousands of players. We already see that "dogs of war" would die if they don't kill someone for 24 hours. I wonder how many of those who will survive without it?
I can.


Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.20 06:49:00 - [22]
 


Originally by: BattleSister Oryx
the sentiment behind this post is dumb, confict is what drives this game. If everyone were friends, it would die pretty quickly


Conflict drives this game, but so does cooperation. This game would die just as quickly, if not faster, if cooperation between people ceased. It's my experience that it is the cooperative aspects of games like this that make them so successful. Yes, EVE is a "sandbox" game where piracy, greed, backstabbing, destruction, and exploitation are encouraged - but that's because there is an understanding that this is a game.

If you ask players how they feel about pirates, suicide gankers, and thieves in-game there would certainly be some animosity expressed, but for the most part they would probably tell you, and understand, that it is part of the game (maybe it's the very reason they choose this game over others). If you ask a random person on the street how they feel about real life murders, thieves, suicide bombers, rapists, and the exploitation of those who cannot defend themselves you will get a much different answer. It's true that these horrendous things are a reality of life, of living in the real world, but how many people would say that they consider them acceptable behavior? Do you really think that the majority of people in the world would see these things as acceptable rather than as monstrous acts of inhumanity which could only really be done by the desperate, empathetically challenged, or insane? If we (the people of the real world) did not feel that way then we wouldn't have prisons, or criminals, or even laws in place to deter and protect the majority of populations world wide.

The "sentiments behind this post", which are the desire for global peace (as well as unity and equality), would help this game more than hinder it. Think about how many more players there would be in EVE if the entire global population had access to it. By calling them dumb you're calling the idea of peace and cooperation dumb. Imagine if the whole world had access to the internet, were capable of affording to spend a few hours a week playing a video game, and had the choice to direct their destructive tendencies and feelings into a virtual world rather than the real one. I don't know about you, but I'd rather my friends (and the billions of people I don't know) lashed out in a virtual world than in the real one. If I owned one, I would rather my Megathron Federate Issue were blown up to 'send a message' in lieu of a building, a hotel, or a school full of children.

There also seems to be some continued confusion about what I'm asking for. I'm not calling for server wide, unfounded, and indefinite peace between all players, corporations, and alliances.

I was just wondering if anyone else out there thought it might be amazing and progressive if an entire gaming community, who essentially thrive on war, banded together and agreed to take their fingers off the triggers to send a message to the rest of the real world.

24 hours. No more, no less.

Blind Brother
Posted - 2011.04.20 06:57:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Blind Brother on 20/04/2011 07:02:37
Blitskin - Thank you for seeing the message. The world needs more people like you.

"I don't think it would have any meaning if it were Dev enforced."
- I don't either. It would only have true meaning if the community agreed. But at the same time, the Devs are a part of the community, so we would need their support as well. And having their support would make this topic much more visible to a greater population of the community.

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2011.04.20 16:19:00 - [24]
 

Peace? Peace!

I hate the word.

As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee.

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.04.20 16:29:00 - [25]
 

Greed. Greed is why peace cannot exist. Those with influence over others will wield it to satiate their greed. This is why war never changes.

Greg Huff
Posted - 2011.04.20 19:03:00 - [26]
 

"Last week, EVE Online made an astounding global message. An entire 24 hours of players participating in a peace rally. Over a 1/4 million players ceased fire upon each other to demonstrate to the world that we can live in peace if we try. Statistics provided to our reporters by CCP confirmed this information."

Source: Broadcast report on NPR, 3:10am. Estimated listening audience: 538

Side thought... How many people play FarmVille everyday without fighting?

Blitskin
Posted - 2011.04.20 20:08:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Greg Huff
"Last week, EVE Online made an astounding global message. An entire 24 hours of players participating in a peace rally. Over a 1/4 million players ceased fire upon each other to demonstrate to the world that we can live in peace if we try. Statistics provided to our reporters by CCP confirmed this information."

Source: Broadcast report on NPR, 3:10am. Estimated listening audience: 538



It is an excellent point, what is the better way to make on the real life news if not this? I think it is a great way to get attention and bring more players to the game.
I was playing other online games for years and only last year found EVE. I would play EVE since the begginning if i would knew about it.

Gerrick Palivorn
Posted - 2011.04.20 22:07:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Drake Draconis
Because this is EVE online... and we all aim to misbehave. (You can thank Cap'n Reynolds from Firefly for that one)
Can I Get an amen folks?


Amen

"No one in the world desires peace more than a soldier at war" One of my favorite quotes, I can't remember who said it. Speaking as a soldier in a combat zone I know that feeling all to well.

You're arguements are well thought out but based on false assumptions, in the end we as humans are animals. Human children exhibit the same characteristics as puppies and kittens, that is not just by chance. To attain the peace that you want you need to eliminate the drive to better yourself in all humans around the world. Because there is always a winner and a loser, conflict/competition of all people would have to be stopped, and the status quo enforced rigorously.

I don't know about you, but that is a world I don't want to live in, I'd rather go to war than promote a world where nothing changes.

You seem the philosophical type, read into Bhuddist and Taoists texts, they both promote peace, but they also understand that a balance must occur. They accept war but do not promote it, I suggest you do the same.

Gerrick Palivorn


Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Posted - 2011.04.20 22:21:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Blitskin
Originally by: Greg Huff
"Last week, EVE Online made an astounding global message. An entire 24 hours of players participating in a peace rally. Over a 1/4 million players ceased fire upon each other to demonstrate to the world that we can live in peace if we try. Statistics provided to our reporters by CCP confirmed this information."

Source: Broadcast report on NPR, 3:10am. Estimated listening audience: 538



It is an excellent point, what is the better way to make on the real life news if not this? I think it is a great way to get attention and bring more players to the game.
I was playing other online games for years and only last year found EVE. I would play EVE since the begginning if i would knew about it.


Lol.... and the follow up:

"EVE Online's 24 hour peace rally was undermined yesterday as a coalition of x, y, and z alliances moved significant invasion forces under the cover of a universe-wide ceasefire. When the ceasefire ended, the epic clash of forces promised to be the most destructive battle in the history of eve... (had the node not crashed)!"

Greg Huff
Posted - 2011.04.20 23:57:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Gizznitt Malikite
Lol.... and the follow up:

"EVE Online's 24 hour peace rally was undermined yesterday as a coalition of x, y, and z alliances moved significant invasion forces under the cover of a universe-wide ceasefire. When the ceasefire ended, the epic clash of forces promised to be the most destructive battle in the history of eve... (had the node not crashed)!"
LOL... I was hoping someone would pick up the obvious follow-up. Very Happy

Blitskin - I think you missed the subtle point that it wouldn't even be newsworthy (*cough*NPR*cough*) Wink


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