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Starfall Achura
Posted - 2011.04.16 01:55:00 - [1]
 

At least I think it is...

Why not make one mineral type that is only availible in low-sec?

It would have the potential to cause coalitions to form pvp/mining forays into low-sec from both hi-sec and 0.0.

If the mineral became more valuable than a 0.0 mineral than so be it...give something to low-sec that is an essential commodity to every day play and watch low-sec become reinvigorated.

Make the mineral abundant so you don't see any of this tech moon bottle-neck crap we see in 0.0. I think it would make small gang stuff come alive. It would be decentralized so there would be no value in blobbing an asteroid field with supers.

Just make it an effort to get. It would also give miners that were willing to risk it all and go get the stuff a little respect. Win/win...


King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.04.16 02:58:00 - [2]
 

I support this type of setup. It would greatly improve things in eve if certain minerals could only be acquired in low sec and others only in null sec (with no overlap). I also think moon goo and moon mining should be deleted from the game, but that's another issue.

BBOX11
Posted - 2011.04.16 03:15:00 - [3]
 

That suggestion in my opinon is a very good one. I live near a area with alot of low sec and i dont see it be used for ANYTHING besides cynoing in carriers with supplies to go one jump out into highsec to be sold... Low sec. would become filled with miners/PVPers trying to get ore and other trying to kill people's ships.

Thus, you will see gang battle of groups taking on a mining fleet with support but You will see something rare! what could this be? OH yea! you wont see SCs landing on field.Shocked LOL.


Reeno Coleman
Posted - 2011.04.16 09:07:00 - [4]
 

good one. simple. makes sense.

ilammy
Red Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.16 09:48:00 - [5]
 

You want blue locals, stretching 30 jumps away, to come to lowsec?

Severian Carnifex
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.16 10:57:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Severian Carnifex on 16/04/2011 10:58:29
Originally by: Starfall Achura
At least I think it is...

Why not make one mineral type that is only availible in low-sec?

It would have the potential to cause coalitions to form pvp/mining forays into low-sec from both hi-sec and 0.0.

If the mineral became more valuable than a 0.0 mineral than so be it...give something to low-sec that is an essential commodity to every day play and watch low-sec become reinvigorated.

Make the mineral abundant so you don't see any of this tech moon bottle-neck crap we see in 0.0. I think it would make small gang stuff come alive. It would be decentralized so there would be no value in blobbing an asteroid field with supers.

Just make it an effort to get. It would also give miners that were willing to risk it all and go get the stuff a little respect. Win/win...




Originally by: King Rothgar
I support this type of setup. It would greatly improve things in eve if certain minerals could only be acquired in low sec and others only in null sec (with no overlap). I also think moon goo and moon mining should be deleted from the game, but that's another issue.



PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN... Very Happy

i think that it would be the best that that ore with that mineral is in 0.3 and 0.2 systems... so that its not too close to other sectors (hi and 0.0)... and 0.2 and 0.3 will become profitable and more populated... and 0.1 and 0.4 will become traffic zone then...

Ticarus Hellbrandt
Posted - 2011.04.16 11:07:00 - [7]
 

lol, move technetium into low sec asteroids

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.04.16 11:18:00 - [8]
 

Low-sec mining ops? I support this! Twisted Evil

Starfall Achura
Posted - 2011.04.16 15:58:00 - [9]
 

As I see it, this would change the dynamics of the game completely.

It would not all be good mind you. Prices would go up on everything until the resources were exploited.

If things get really bad a I foresee the laughable instance where a pirate stumbles upon a miner and actually lets him go...knowing that without that miner getting this ore to the station there may be no more ships in the near future.... Well, not really that would never happen...

However, as we see complaints of lag and the lamentations of the small gang and solo pvper regarding blobs , I think that this may be a way to address this.

We see 0.0 guys complain about the hi-sec carebears...we see hi-sec guys complain about the null-sec botters..however both camps get to exploit their resources relatively risk free.

Make people have to come out of their respective bastions for just one little item and we will see New Eden explode with activity.

*Disclaimer I don't have a degree in economics so I don't know specifically what something like this would doto the economic wellbeing of our game, this would have to be left to better minds than my own.




Remlin
Caldari
XERCORE
Posted - 2011.04.16 17:30:00 - [10]
 

What dis?
An idea to make lowsec interesting and shiz.
Just like them ole days before Capitol ships.
What da hell are trying to do! Make the game fun!!!?
Shame,shame on you.

Idea supported by me :)

Drone 16
Posted - 2011.04.16 22:40:00 - [11]
 

I like it!

It would make low-sec the demilitarized zone between civilized Hi-sec and relatively civilaized null-sec.

Imagine the carnage as fleets fight to get their share of the mins. Might slow down super cap production as well who knows.

Supported

Vance Armistice
Posted - 2011.04.17 16:54:00 - [12]
 

Wholeheartedly supported!!! It would be like player-made incursions into low -sec to obtain mineals before idustry grinds to a halt. Talk about getting players to cooperate! It instills a sense of urgency into the game.

In 0.0 the alliance heads get the moon goo. They whip up their constituent corps into CTA's to defend their assets. Not fun for anyone.

In this case, you would have players needing to cooperate in order to ensure the smooth flow of their game. I forsee a lot of wrecks and a sick amount of fun if something like this ever in instituted.

Thumbs up

Jiin Ko
Jol-Nar Industries
Posted - 2011.04.17 17:07:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Jiin Ko on 17/04/2011 17:08:50
I smell a carebear trap.

This shall be amusing to watch!

GizzyBoy
Posted - 2011.04.18 06:12:00 - [14]
 

they got a boost already , noc is more plentiful in lowsec apparently.


Renarla
Posted - 2011.04.18 08:11:00 - [15]
 

I like it, supported. +1

Avila Cracko
Posted - 2011.04.19 08:06:00 - [16]
 

i like radical ideas...

+1

Jaik7
Posted - 2011.04.19 13:40:00 - [17]
 

i suggest that the mineral moved be zydrine. basicly, take all the zydrine out of the high end ores and make up a new one to put in lowsec that has a high portion of zydrine. nullsecers still get a monopoly on megacyte, but they won't be able to do much without the zydrine.

this or the tech moongoo gets moved to lowsec asteroids. i wouldn't put the tech stuff in the moons because that's an awfully big investment in an area of space where anyone can get to and you can't turn your structures invulnerable.

without the doomsday working, this might even bring back dreads as pos bashing toolsShocked

Mighty Dread
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.19 15:15:00 - [18]
 

I like this idea and it makes sense. Though it would have to be a dramatic enough of a shift to force people into low sec other than players just adapting to remain hugging high sec.

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.04.19 20:13:00 - [19]
 

In order for it to work, it must be absolutely exclusive. That means reprocessing mission loot including rogue drone stuff won't get you the mineral. I really think null sec also needs their exclusive mineral too for this to work. The idea of converting some of the moon goo over to this is good. Simply moving some high end moons to low sec wouldn't work. If you've ever looked around the moons in low sec, every single decent moon is controlled by a large null sec entity no matter how far away from their space it is. I've seen IT moons 60j from the nearest IT system (before their fail cascade, though that particular moon still belongs to the same corp). Moving them to asteroids is a very nice solution. It forces people to actually mine it rather than throwing up a death star and forgetting about it until someone decides to attack it.

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2011.04.19 23:39:00 - [20]
 

i support this, this sounds like a great idea

lupusmoon
Posted - 2011.04.20 06:50:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: lupusmoon on 20/04/2011 06:52:20
Edited by: lupusmoon on 20/04/2011 06:51:39
Had the same idea. Here is my current roid split.

Note: this split is intended for a no-overlap system

high-sec:
veldspar 1.0-.5 all
scordite 1.0-.5 all
pyroxers .7-.5(ammar/caldari)
plagiolase .9-.5 all
omber .7-.5(minmitar/galente)

low-sec:
kernite .4-.1 all
jaspet .4-.1 all
hemorphite .2-.1 (ammar/galente)
hedbergite .2-.1 (caldari/minmitar)

null-sec:
gneiss
dark ochre
crokite
spodumain
bistot
arkanor
mercoxit
(Note: As I dont know how Null ore is spread, I dont have it split)Maybe move Gneiss to low?

Cycotic Maniac
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.20 10:39:00 - [22]
 

+1

shadowraven001
Posted - 2011.04.20 12:24:00 - [23]
 

I like the idea. you would need to make sure there was the right balance on useage something along the lines of zydrine useage. i also think that it would be essensail to make the ore in question abundent throughout low sec to stop bottlenecks this would mean greater intergreation between miners and pvper either though purchase of access rights such as is offen used in null sec or by joined co-operation.

good idea i like it lets see what ccp has to say about this.

Regards

Raven

BBOX11
Posted - 2011.04.20 12:28:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: lupusmoon
Edited by: lupusmoon on 20/04/2011 06:52:20
Edited by: lupusmoon on 20/04/2011 06:51:39
Had the same idea. Here is my current roid split.

Note: this split is intended for a no-overlap system

high-sec:
veldspar 1.0-.5 all
scordite 1.0-.5 all
pyroxers .7-.5(ammar/caldari)
plagiolase .9-.5 all
omber .7-.5(minmitar/galente)

low-sec:
kernite .4-.1 all
jaspet .4-.1 all
hemorphite .2-.1 (ammar/galente)
hedbergite .2-.1 (caldari/minmitar)

null-sec:
gneiss
dark ochre
crokite
spodumain
bistot
arkanor
mercoxit
(Note: As I dont know how Null ore is spread, I dont have it split)Maybe move Gneiss to low?


See With this there is no reason to go to low sec. No strong reason. You hsve to make it where low sec has one of the best minerals that you can't get anywhere else or there is no reason mine low sec when you can go to nul and get alot better minerals.

So my idea would have the current system and put a roid in the belts. And lets say this roid that just yields Zydrine. Then you would have to take out all the bistot, spodumain, and crokite out of null.

There is alot o ways to do it. but for it to work in my mind is to have something very exclusive to low sec.

Supported +1

Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y
Posted - 2011.04.20 16:53:00 - [25]
 

... aaaand triple the amount of low sec systems.

Mighty Dread
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.20 18:57:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Mighty Dread on 20/04/2011 18:57:48

Actually I would change null sec so that the inhabitants there too had to go to low sec in order to mine certain minerals. So both high sec and null sec miners would have to come to low sec for their needs. The reason being is that I am sure that there are bots running in null sec under the protection (or at the very least lack of detection) of certain alliances.

Kerrakus
Posted - 2011.04.20 20:54:00 - [27]
 


Yea Great Idea! you all need miners to come to low-sec so you can gank them more easily because you all to damn wussy to fight a challenge. That has always been the problem. Nobody wants to lose. So pick on the miners?

If you idiots all want to fight so badly go there and do it already!

Bad bad idea!

Vernal Equinox
Minmatar
Saiph Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.04.20 21:18:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Kerrakus

Yea Great Idea! you all need miners to come to low-sec so you can gank them more easily because you all to damn wussy to fight a challenge. That has always been the problem. Nobody wants to lose. So pick on the miners?

If you idiots all want to fight so badly go there and do it already!

Bad bad idea!


lol this^
and what's worse is you wouldn't even get that. Huge blobs of nullsec alliance members flocking to lowsec to lockdown systems for their own carebears to monopolize ala technetium v2.0. Lowsec pies would be forced out post-haste.

Kerrakus
Posted - 2011.04.20 22:05:00 - [29]
 


Wow I thought a whole minute on this idea, I read post after post after post about how low-sec has gone to hell, and nobody fights anymore and everyone is trying to find ways to get low sec active, everyone wants to fight, tens of thousands of posts! And all I see is people trying to war dec industrial corps in high sec and come up with ideas to get miners in low sec...

Ready I will solve all your stupid problems. All you people That actually want to fight each other and get low-sec active every weekend from Friday to Sunday night.....READY EVERYONE!

GO THERE AND DO IT.

START

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Posted - 2011.04.20 23:12:00 - [30]
 


I think this is a good idea. Although I'd allow it to appear in null-sec hauler spawns and maybe a small amount in drone minerals too.


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