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Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2011.04.14 14:39:00 - [1]
 

CCP Manifest is bringing us a guest blog from Zapatero and EON magazine about the ISK Guide. Find out EON's plans for the biggest guide for EVE Online here.

Blind Man
Caldari
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.04.14 14:55:00 - [2]
 

Cool. looking forward to the single page pdf of volume 1 Laughing

GyokZoli
Caldari
Sanctum of Citizens
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:11:00 - [3]
 

Please, let us be able to pay for it with PLEXes.

Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:13:00 - [4]
 

True EVE warriors need no guide. IBC

Lead Tart
Tacitum Hostis
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:14:00 - [5]
 

Quote:
EVE’s infamous learning cliff will be overcome!

....by releasing 2x400 pages of howto's, FAQs, introductions, and guides, weighing in at some 3 kg?

That statement by itself says something about EVE's learning cliff Razz

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:29:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: J Kunjeh on 14/04/2011 16:11:25
I downloaded the guide a while ago and loved it. Particularly all of the tables included. I loved it so much that I checked with my local copy shop about printing it out in a book-ish form...but holy cripes that was expensive! Lucky for me, the print edition was rumored to be coming out so I waited and eventually pre-ordered it.

The one big criticism I have is the English...it's horrible not as good as it should be throughout. I know the creators aren't native English speakers, but maybe Eon could lend them a good editor for V2? It really needs one.

That said, I'll be pre-ordering the next version when it's announced as well. Can't wait to get my print edition of V1...it looks to be a beautiful book to have on hand for reference.

Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2011.04.14 15:39:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Zapatero on 14/04/2011 15:39:07
Originally by: Lead Tart
Quote:
EVE’s infamous learning cliff will be overcome!

....by releasing 2x400 pages of howto's, FAQs, introductions, and guides, weighing in at some 3 kg?

That statement by itself says something about EVE's learning cliff Razz


The cliff isn't quite so intimidating when you're standing on six inches of paper :)

- Z

Mr LaForge
Posted - 2011.04.14 16:29:00 - [8]
 

The cliff you speak of is why some people even play the game.

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2011.04.14 20:16:00 - [9]
 

I finally broke down and bought something from the Eve store. I picked up the board game too - I have some friends coming over for a week or two this Summer and it'll be fun to give it a try. I'll be bringing this gigantic book to work with me, where there's a lot of techie geeks that love complex stuff. Leaving the book out for people to thumb through could win some converts.

But, I was a bit dismayed that each item needed a separate shipping charge. It would be great if this wasn't necessary. : >

Cergorach
Amarr
The Helix Foundation
Posted - 2011.04.14 21:43:00 - [10]
 

Will volume #2 (the pvp guide) also be available in pdf? I read all my books on my iPad these days, my library of physical books is already very large and space is at a premium, having a digital copy is a must these days. When I buy gaming pdfs (DTRPG.com) they generally embed a digital watermark in the pdf to combat piracy, so that shouldn't be a problem.

DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.04.14 22:50:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Mr LaForge
The cliff you speak of is why some people even play the game.


While others play the game because of what lies beyond that said cliff, and want others to climb that cliff so they can shoot them at the face.

Daneel Trevize
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.14 22:57:00 - [12]
 

I wonder if there'll be anything at all about combat in w-space? System effects, polarity and mass/collapsing to trap or split gangs, hole spawn ranges & no deaggressing to jump, no local & the power of cloaking, practical immunity if near a highsec hole (unless bad sec/standing), who can bring cap ships or even BS and where, etc.

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.04.15 02:03:00 - [13]
 

Could it please stop saying that a small POS eats fuel once every four hours? And that the abundance of moon mineralsmeans anything? And a couple of misleading things about probing? And that you can take sovereignty in a station system without capturing the outpost? And that supercarriers are used for repping? Etc. Etc. Etc.

Sorry for sounding negative, but I wanted to post something more constructive than "it's still full of errors".

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.04.15 05:15:00 - [14]
 

In EVE, we don't have a learning curve. We have a learning crucifix.

Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
Posted - 2011.04.15 07:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Cergorach
Will volume #2 (the pvp guide) also be available in pdf? I read all my books on my iPad these days, my library of physical books is already very large and space is at a premium, having a digital copy is a must these days. When I buy gaming pdfs (DTRPG.com) they generally embed a digital watermark in the pdf to combat piracy, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Yes it will be. Just not for free.

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
Posted - 2011.04.15 08:53:00 - [16]
 

What topics will be covered and/or expanded on in Volume 2?

Khadann
Caldari
Sense of Serendipity
Echoes of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.04.15 16:37:00 - [17]
 

We don't have often news linked with the EON magasine, so i jump on this one to ask:

When can we expect the electronic version of the EON magasine?

It was initially planed for January, but i believe you guys are still defining a price strategy...

Any news about it?

Kaelarian
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Posted - 2011.04.16 20:05:00 - [18]
 

Quote:
EVE’s infamous learning cliff will be overcome!


I think the fact that it will have taken some 700-800 pages to explain EVE means it will remain a cliff. Think of these books as climbing gear.

JAG Shadow
Posted - 2011.04.16 21:28:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Zapatero
Edited by: Zapatero on 14/04/2011 15:39:07

The cliff isn't quite so intimidating when you're standing on six inches of paper :)

- Z


Zap. When are you going to release Eon in a digital (pdf/app) version for sale? Come on.. quit delaying this. Paper is so last century...

Laci
Jugis Modo Utopia
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2011.04.17 11:34:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: J Kunjeh
Edited by: J Kunjeh on 14/04/2011 16:11:25
I downloaded the guide a while ago and loved it. Particularly all of the tables included. I loved it so much that I checked with my local copy shop about printing it out in a book-ish form...but holy cripes that was expensive! Lucky for me, the print edition was rumored to be coming out so I waited and eventually pre-ordered it.

The one big criticism I have is the English...it's horrible not as good as it should be throughout. I know the creators aren't native English speakers, but maybe Eon could lend them a good editor for V2? It really needs one.

That said, I'll be pre-ordering the next version when it's announced as well. Can't wait to get my print edition of V1...it looks to be a beautiful book to have on hand for reference.




The ISK 3.0 copy-edited and grammar-checked by professionals :) Maybe you seen the 2.x ;)

JcJet
Caldari
Pretenders Inc
W-Space
Posted - 2011.04.18 13:17:00 - [21]
 

Omg, it's soo cool :) too bad i'm already know all this, too late for me :(

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.18 16:30:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: JcJet
Omg, it's soo cool :) too bad i'm already know all this, too late for me :(


Even if you already know all of the info, it's good to have as a handy way to reference the many good charts contained within as you play the game. At least, that's my main reason for buying the hard copy since I already have the PDF and have read it.


 

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