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Commander Michael Iwaniak
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:01:00 - [1]
 

I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.

Gistatis Tribunus
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:05:00 - [2]
 

Quote:
I remember when eve forums was so ..mature.


Maturity? The eve forums? Surely you can't be talking about the very same thing?

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:12:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Sarmatiko on 12/04/2011 07:14:24
Edited by: Sarmatiko on 12/04/2011 07:12:52
:CCP: happens. From time to time.

ps: OP who makes comparison thread with wow = immature child.
ps2: GD is a trollrcoaster. If you not prepared - don`t read it.

Commander Michael Iwaniak
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:14:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Sarmatiko
Edited by: Sarmatiko on 12/04/2011 07:12:52
:CCP: happens. From time to time.

ps: OP who makes comparison thread with wow = immature child.


Why immature ? please explain.

Julyan Fox
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:14:00 - [5]
 

I agree with you, those forums are full of whiners. Unfortunatly starting a thread to complain about whiners is also kind of a whine and troll.

You got a few solutions to your problem. Either ignore the whiners and annoying trolls, or find a hobby that attract more mature peoples than video games do.

My two cents.

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:17:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
Why immature ? please explain.

So you don`t deny you are a child? ugh

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:21:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.
Actually, this is your first post. Show us where you asked a reasonable question and got flamed for it.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:23:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I remember when eve forums was so ..mature.


obvious troll is obvious

Commander Michael Iwaniak
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I remember when eve forums was so ..mature.


obvious troll is obvious


This is exacly what im talking about. Neutral
No more maturity.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:27:00 - [10]
 

IMO it started about 12-18 months ago. A lot of really good posters burned out and quit posting between Dominion and Tyrannis. I still see some of them in game, but I think most just don't play anymore.

-Liang

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:29:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I remember when eve forums was so ..mature.


obvious troll is obvious


This is exacly what im talking about. Neutral
No more maturity.

No, you're just talking out your ass
There is same ratio of trolls:thoughtful posters as there was 5yrs ago, it's just that the game population has increased.

As I said, obvious troll is obvious.

Habaticus
Gallente
Posted - 2011.04.12 07:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.


So true and it seems like the stupidity is increasing. It's hard to find an intelligent thread where you can enjoy and learn from the discussion. Just a lot of drive by trolls that are sarcatic, shallow, and selfish.

Signal11th
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:03:00 - [13]
 

Got to agree with the OP, It's bad enough people going ...Can I haz ur stuff, u mad bro? obvious troll is obvious and all that purile pathetic immature stuff, but what's even worse is the 3 to 4 people who then post exactly the same thing thinking they are being funny or clever.

*just waits for the "U mad bro?" reply

JitaBUGz TheGreat
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:16:00 - [14]
 

YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:16:00 - [15]
 

Just get off the forums, you are here to play the game anyway. The only sections I habitually visit are Assembly Hall and FID, while making some random post in other ones sometimes.

Krevnos
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:16:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Signal11th
Got to agree with the OP, It's bad enough people going ...Can I haz ur stuff, u mad bro? obvious troll is obvious and all that purile pathetic immature stuff, but what's even worse is the 3 to 4 people who then post exactly the same thing thinking they are being funny or clever.

*just waits for the "U mad bro?" reply


And of course we can't forget the "who would recruit someone called <name here>" which has cropped up more recently. To be honest I tend to avoid writing in the forums these days.

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:22:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Signal11th
Got to agree with the OP, It's bad enough people going ...Can I haz ur stuff, u mad bro? obvious troll is obvious and all that purile pathetic immature stuff, but what's even worse is the 3 to 4 people who then post exactly the same thing thinking they are being funny or clever.

*just waits for the "U mad bro?" reply
Indeed, the boring, unoriginal 'youtube comments' level of responses are awful and the moderators need to stamp that stuff out as soon as it's posted.

I do take issue with the OP's claim that 'almost everyone' are 'trolls' and that if you ask a question, all you will get are 'troll answers'. I just had a look through the pages on the first page, and most of them are reasonable discussions. Lets not blow things out of proportion.

However: moderators, this is all on you. The perception of these forums is down to you. Do your freaking job for once, please.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:26:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.

post with your main WinkQuestion
but seriously - there has always been trolls - go and look at page 4752

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:39:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature.


the forums have never been mature, never ever.

2.5 years ago? Ghost training nerf ****storm. Two weeks of tears all over general discussion.
3.5 years ago? Zulupark considers nerfing carriers, gets death threats and other threads of physical violence. Classy.
4 years ago? t20. 'nuff said.

and those are just the ones i remember

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.04.12 08:46:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
3.5 years ago? Zulupark considers nerfing carriers, gets death threats and other threads of physical violence. Classy.


Ha! I remember that Laughing

Jacque Cruix
Posted - 2011.04.12 09:05:00 - [21]
 

Every once in a while I'll go back and read something like page 4737 and read a thread like this or even this and realize things haven't really changed much.



Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.04.12 09:07:00 - [22]
 

You got nothing on my druid!

Alexis Orlenard
Posted - 2011.04.12 09:29:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Jacque Cruix
Every once in a while I'll go back and read something like page 4737 and read a thread like this or even this and realize things haven't really changed much.





This thread is pretty funny. Check out all the "this game sucks CCP i'm quitting !111" guys from 2003 with new character avatars Laughing.

Ymirus
Minmatar
Fly Drunk
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2011.04.12 10:26:00 - [24]
 

I just came back from a year long break, and if I were to compare the general level of the forums then to the level now, it's gotten worse. There was always trolling, rage and all that nonsense, but it just seems alot... easier, more infantile today.
As always though, there is still plenty of good to be found as well. Just ignore the silly trolls and support the classy/skilled trolls ;)

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.04.12 10:33:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.
you weren't here since the beginning so you really don' know what you're talking about.

quality post vs troll ratio is the same. it's just that back then we had like... 50k subs.
now there is over 350k.

Daedalus II
Helios Research
Posted - 2011.04.12 11:13:00 - [26]
 

Worse or not worse, what I wonder is why SHC has always been better than the official forums? Both forums should have roughly the same clientèle? Is it a matter of moderation? In that case the EVE-O forums could be cleaned up with some extra work put into moderation.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.04.12 11:16:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 12/04/2011 11:15:56
Maybe CCP could implement some sort of a time dilation feature to slow down the troll where the forums would slow down by X for every troll greater than one in the thread. If more trolls show up their typing could be slowed down by X+Y factors. It should make the forums more mature that way.

Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.04.12 11:16:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Commander Michael Iwaniak
I recently reactivated my account. I was offline 2,5 years. I remember when eve forums was so ..mature. Now its exacly the same like wow forums, almost everyone are trolls and whiners ...and if you ask some question all answers you got is "you noob learn how to play" "go back to wow" or some sick joke. When this community changes happened ?

PS. Not a native english speaker.



You can't really ask the trolls why they are trolling and get a strait answer. Just like everyone here has to believe that they are so much better then WOW players (which is ridiculousness to the level of hilarity)



TBH I think it has something to do with Goonswarm winning the ethical battle of EVE. Now everyone wants to be a Goontroll on an open forum.



Also, CCP does not enforce the forum rules as they once did...
Meh...

Bollox Reader
Pera Support Group
Posted - 2011.04.12 11:23:00 - [29]
 

Look, if you want a trip down memory lane, look at all the whining from the early days over m0o, Taggart Transdimensional and the rest of the classic stuff. Since the game launched, nothing has really changed. Trolls and whiners have always been here, as have exploiters and griefers, who I pretty much classify the same way.

But if you look in places other than GD and CAOD, you'll find a much, much higher signal to noise ratio. Even in GD you'll find enough to redeem the fallen. CAOD is the one hellhole that is beyond salvation. But even it serves a purpose, giving them an outlet so they don't spam up the rest of the forums.

The Old Chap
Posted - 2011.04.12 11:32:00 - [30]
 

The explanation is simple, Eve is getting older. There are more senile bitter vets around than there used to be.


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